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anglachel
May 28, 2012

Arrgytehpirate posted:

G/B Elves
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=99677

They cost around 350/180 respectively which isn't a terrible entry cost. Is it even worth jumping back in right now or is there about to be a big rotation?

You can buy this deck for like 30 to 40 bucks on TCGPlayer. Sans the Collected Companies that is. (Cause they rotate out in a few weeks)

I would warn you now though that this deck will get a whole lot worse without Collected Company, sense CC is what lets you recover from a boardwipe. And Shadows of Innistrad won't have any Elves in it.

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Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
CC is from Dragons. It'll be in standard for a while still.

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



When is Shadows coming out? I might just start slow and draft for a bit

anglachel
May 28, 2012

Rinkles posted:

CC is from Dragons. It'll be in standard for a while still.

Ah, well then he should add 60 to 80 and he will have the price.

Hmm, so what current Standard Legal Vampires are in that would make the cut in a hypothetical Madness based Vampire deck?

Kalitas and Drana are obvious. But I almost like the idea of a Mardu colors vampire deck, but I'm not sure if the mana will support that now. But a deck that can have new Nahari, new Sorin, new Vindicate, and has Madness for Value seems like it would be pretty strong, plus there are quite a few vampires that crank out lots of zombies.

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

anglachel posted:

Ah, well then he should add 60 to 80 and he will have the price.

Hmm, so what current Standard Legal Vampires are in that would make the cut in a hypothetical Madness based Vampire deck?

Kalitas and Drana are obvious. But I almost like the idea of a Mardu colors vampire deck, but I'm not sure if the mana will support that now. But a deck that can have new Nahari, new Sorin, new Vindicate, and has Madness for Value seems like it would be pretty strong, plus there are quite a few vampires that crank out lots of zombies.

If you are going Mardu there's no reason not to toss some Avacyns in here as well. Fill ot the curve.

DurdleDuck
Jul 17, 2013

Errant Gin Monks posted:

If you are going Mardu there's no reason not to toss some Avacyns in here as well. Fill ot the curve.

Well, there is one reason... These kind of manabases that want to go T1 R >> T3 BB >>T5 WW are not going to be very consistent at all without the fetches fetching up duals.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Fuzzy Mammal posted:

Did anyone actually watch the spoiler video for the new vindicate? :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhwXh4srQ8w

I'm the painful series of inappropriate sound effects.

and this is why everyone else does card previews as an article, yuck that was bad

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

DurdleDuck posted:

Well, there is one reason... These kind of manabases that want to go T1 R >> T3 BB >>T5 WW are not going to be very consistent at all without the fetches fetching up duals.

Oh yeah, I forget standard will lose its hosed upedness after this.

Thank god.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Errant Gin Monks posted:

If you are going Mardu there's no reason not to toss some Avacyns in here as well. Fill ot the curve.

When you don't have Crackling Doom anymore, the incentive to play W in your RB deck isn't really there and I don't think the madness deck wants to go up to 5. NTM her flip kills your guys.

mcmagic fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Mar 15, 2016

Jenny Angel
Oct 24, 2010

Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!
Lipstick Apathy

rabidsquid posted:

It's about time Nameless Inversion got Madness

The alleged spoiler text specifies vampire creature cards, so this wouldn't work, no?

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

New French spoiler, translation taken from Reddit:

quote:

"Rattlechains" - 1U

Creature - Spirit. Rare. 2/1.
Flash, flying

When xxx enters the battlefield, target spirit gains hexproof until end of turn.

You can cast spirit spells as though they had flash.
I see some similarities to the 2/1 vampire. Maybe there'll be a cycle of aggressively costed creatures with non-standard 'lord' abilities?

http://www.magiccorporation.com/gathering-news-view-1623-carte-exclu-mc-tenebres-sur-innistrad-tintechaines.html

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

2/1 flash flier for 1U is really good on its own, jeez.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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The Shortest Path posted:

2/1 flash flier for 1U is really good on its own, jeez.

We already have one and it's fringe playable.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Endless Ranks of the Dead kindof fits as well although it's a mythic.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

mcmagic posted:

We already have one and it's fringe playable.

The upside on this is a lot higher than Dimensional Infiltrator though. Allowing your deck to operate at instant speed while subsequent copies blank removal is a lot of utility.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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sarmhan posted:

The upside on this is a lot higher than Dimensional Infiltrator though. Allowing your deck to operate at instant speed while subsequent copies blank removal is a lot of utility.

We don't know if there are enough Spirits to support it though...

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
Channel Fireball will be spoiling Arlinn in about an hour FYI.

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

mcmagic posted:

We don't know if there are enough Spirits to support it though...
We don't know if the spirits will be good enough you mean. There are going to be plenty of spirits.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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sarmhan posted:

We don't know if the spirits will be good enough you mean. There are going to be plenty of spirits.

Yes. So far it's only limited fodder.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

mcmagic posted:

We don't know if there are enough Spirits to support it though...

Building around Ghost Waifu shouldn't be too hard.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.
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Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Those are both really good cards, wow. And the art!

A shame Odric doesn't spread protection or landwalk around, but still.

Nibble
Dec 28, 2003

if we don't, remember me
Odric makes me think Skulk is going to be evergreen.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

The Shortest Path posted:

Those are both really good cards, wow. And the art!

A shame Odric doesn't spread protection or landwalk around, but still.

Doesn't spread banding, card is garbage.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Old Odric was probably better.

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
I had a hunch that skulk was on track to be the new evergreen for U/B and that Odric card certainly provides evidence for it.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

The Shortest Path posted:

Those are both really good cards, wow. And the art!

A shame Odric doesn't spread protection or landwalk around, but still.

Neither are evergreen now, and it would be a pain to template anyway. Not sure he's great at 4 mana with no upside if he's alone on the battlefield. But yeah, looks like Skulk is evergreen'd.

To the Slaughter looks amazing, but I feel like it should be uncommon, but whatever. Looks like it might be a sideboard card.

Barry Shitpeas
Dec 17, 2003

there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013
Odric continuing the tradition of every one of those cards having a different list of abilities

jscolon2.0
Jul 9, 2001

With great payroll, comes great disappointment.

Nibble posted:

Odric makes me think Skulk is going to be evergreen.

Was just about to say the same thing. Hello new UB combat mechanic.

Barry Shitpeas
Dec 17, 2003

there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013
Did people not realise that from the moment the first skulk card was spoiled?

Meatbag Esq.
May 3, 2006

Hmm which internet meme should go here again?
This is at least the second time they've printed a card that says - do this for all these other keywords as well. They need to just type certain keywords as say "combat keywords" in the rules so they can say "do this for each other combat keyword as well."

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

Skulk has been confirmed to not be evergreen. Nothing is stopping them from pulling a prowess if it works out, but don't expect it to start turning up in the next block.

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
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Meatbag Esq. posted:

This is at least the second time they've printed a card that says - do this for all these other keywords as well. They need to just type certain keywords as say "combat keywords" in the rules so they can say "do this for each other combat keyword as well."

Needing to look at an external reference to find out what the card does isn't very fun.

This way, it's wordy, but at least you can look at the card to find out what it does.

GimmickMan
Dec 27, 2011

It is a shame Odric doesn't spread Prowess around, now that would be :getin:

The Lord of Hats
Aug 22, 2010

Hello, yes! Is being very good day for posting, no?
I'm pretty neutral on the card, but I like that we get an Odric. It's nice to have him show up in Innistrad proper and not just be a one-off from a core set.

Barry Shitpeas
Dec 17, 2003

there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013

Meatbag Esq. posted:

This is at least the second time they've printed a card that says - do this for all these other keywords as well. They need to just type certain keywords as say "combat keywords" in the rules so they can say "do this for each other combat keyword as well."

That would be functional errata

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



new Odric is super cool flavorfully(pulls your ragtag bunch into a cohesive army) but is almost certainly not actually constructed playable. To The Slaughter is a legit good card though I think

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

mcmagic posted:

We don't know if there are enough Spirits to support it though...

It's good even without that third line of text. You're missing the forest for the trees.


Barry Shitpeas posted:

Odric continuing the tradition of every one of those cards having a different list of abilities

At least the delve one is rotating out so we won't have two of them in standard.

Barry Shitpeas
Dec 17, 2003

there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013

GimmickMan posted:

It is a shame Odric doesn't spread Prowess around, now that would be :getin:

Prowess is a triggered ability so it would give the original creature double prowess, somewhat counter-intuitively

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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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This being a rare is dumb.

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