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SRM posted:There's new stuff? Apparently, that's what the newsletter keeps telling me at least.
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Zaphod42 posted:I'm looking to read something more about the day-to-day of life for Chaos, especially living in the warp and managing troops and stuff like that if any such thing exists. As well as the previous responses there's Pawns Of Chaos which is mostly written from the perspective of a backwater feral world resisting Imperial rule. It's been out of print forever though.
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Helicon One posted:As well as the previous responses there's Pawns Of Chaos which is mostly written from the perspective of a backwater feral world resisting Imperial rule. It's been out of print forever though. Ey, interesting! There's always a few copies of old BL material available on Amazon, if you don't mind the covers being a little worn. Got Eye of Terror that way for 4 bucks, would recommend. Also would recommend Eye of Terror; it has a different feel than most of the newer BL entries, yet still manages to feel solidly 40k-ish, and might be the most imaginative book about how strange life inside the warp/Eye of Terror is that I've read. vvv To be honest, I think the first book in that series is the only one in the BL library that doesn't shy away from the Slaanesh side of things. It's like after that book got released, GW decided "Woah hey we know this chaos god is pretty much the divine incarnation of loving but let's focus on perfectionism and general feelings of excitement from now on, okay?" One Legged Cat fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Mar 15, 2016 |
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Mar 15, 2016 18:33
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The Inquisition War by Ian Watson also has a lot of good Chaos stuff. Like the weird Chaos stuff. Really weird.
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Mar 15, 2016 18:37
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Nearly Moorcock-level of weird.
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Mar 15, 2016 18:42
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MMAgCh posted:Does anyone here have any experience with the customer service of Black Library? I mailed them a week ago because an order I tried to place didn't quite work out (the only part that went through was my getting charged for the eBook), but other than an automated response I haven't heard back from them. Just wondering if this is par for the course. (Apparently the mail I'd sent them went into their junk mail folder.  )
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MMAgCh posted:For the record, I did call them just now and they sorted everything out within a matter of minutes. So that was some pretty good customer service! If there is one thing GW does right, it's customer service. They've always been great with it - back in the day, if you were missing a bit from a blister or a kit, they'd send you a whole new set. Obviously, they aren't as free now with assholes who take advantage of a good thing, but GW is still top notch with customer service.
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berzerkmonkey posted:If there is one thing GW does right, it's customer service. They've always been great with it - back in the day, if you were missing a bit from a blister or a kit, they'd send you a whole new set. Obviously, they aren't as free now with assholes who take advantage of a good thing, but GW is still top notch with customer service. They've still done the same for me. A few months back I called them up because two blisters of old metal Grot artillery I'd bought on eBay were each missing a crewmember, and they sent me two new kits right away, free of charge and no questions asked. Across the board they're great about it.
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One Legged Cat posted:vvv To be honest, I think the first book in that series is the only one in the BL library that doesn't shy away from the Slaanesh side of things. It's like after that book got released, GW decided "Woah hey we know this chaos god is pretty much the divine incarnation of loving but let's focus on perfectionism and general feelings of excitement from now on, okay?"  as gently caress Fantasy novel from ages back. It is AMAZING and everyone should read it.
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One Legged Cat posted:Also would recommend Eye of Terror; it has a different feel than most of the newer BL entries, yet still manages to feel solidly 40k-ish, and might be the most imaginative book about how strange life inside the warp/Eye of Terror is that I've read. Roller Coast Guard fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Mar 16, 2016 |
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Arquinsiel posted:The Wine of Dreams is a comparatively little known and Oh hey, turns out that's written by the same guy who wrote Pawns of Chaos for the 40k setting. Dude's got a theme going on.
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Traitor General and Blood Pact have a lot of insight into how chaos operates. Traitor General in particular basically shows that life on a chaos occupied planet is more weird but only slightly less lovely than life on a lot of imperial planets. Just instead of the administratum and church keeping you down you have a weird worm implanted in your arm and your boss at work now speaks to you through a mouth in the side of his neck and has sewn his eyes shut.
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lenoon posted:Traitor General and Blood Pact have a lot of insight into how chaos operates. Traitor General in particular basically shows that life on a chaos occupied planet is more weird but only slightly less lovely than life on a lot of imperial planets. Just instead of the administratum and church keeping you down you have a weird worm implanted in your arm and your boss at work now speaks to you through a mouth in the side of his neck and has sewn his eyes shut. Ehhh, almost every time we see an "average" imperial citizens life its either in a city about to be under siege, a city already under siege, the lower levels of a hive, or a menial in a factory world. We get a reeaaaaly skewed view of how the imperium day to day life operates because of this but most imperial worlds are pretty chill. A couple of the one Cain stops off at are fine and pretty much every agriworld is nice. I mean yeah lower levels of hives suck but you are in the literal slums so its not like thats the norm. On the other hand Chaos held worlds can be fairly chill but there is the whole "reality can spit out a literal rape demon any second if I sneeze the wrong tone" deal. Plus in those books you forgot to mention the ever present giant eldritch glyphs that floated around in the sky and that hurt to look at. Or the metal werewolf scarecrows that would kill you if you left the city.
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Finished reading The Vampire Genevieve omnibus yesterday and it surprised me by having a really nice and sweet ending. Hadn't expected that from a Warhammer novel. While I would still want to read the Ulrika books I'm fine with making that one the only Warhammer Fantasy fiction that I've read for now. I feel like bugging BL about releasing an omnibus for the Ulrika books.
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One Legged Cat posted:Also would recommend Eye of Terror; it has a different feel than most of the newer BL entries, yet still manages to feel solidly 40k-ish, and might be the most imaginative book about how strange life inside the warp/Eye of Terror is that I've read. Yeah, I don't think any of the modern BL stuff comes close to this book's - or Ian Watson's - level of weirdness, but Atlas Infernal by Rob Sanders is a good option for those looking for more weird-world-of-Chaos exploration (with the added benefit that Sanders can actually write dialogue and more-than-paper-thin characters).
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lenoon posted:Traitor General and Blood Pact have a lot of insight into how chaos operates. Traitor General in particular basically shows that life on a chaos occupied planet is more weird but only slightly less lovely than life on a lot of imperial planets. Just instead of the administratum and church keeping you down you have a weird worm implanted in your arm and your boss at work now speaks to you through a mouth in the side of his neck and has sewn his eyes shut. Excellent, this is again exactly what I was looking for, I'll check out Traitor General for sure. Telsa Cola posted:Ehhh, almost every time we see an "average" imperial citizens life its either in a city about to be under siege, a city already under siege, the lower levels of a hive, or a menial in a factory world. We get a reeaaaaly skewed view of how the imperium day to day life operates because of this but most imperial worlds are pretty chill. A couple of the one Cain stops off at are fine and pretty much every agriworld is nice. I mean yeah lower levels of hives suck but you are in the literal slums so its not like thats the norm. That's what was so fun about Eisenhorn though, exploring more of the unseen day-to-day Imperium that wasn't just towns under siege or about to be under siege. I kinda like how chill Chaos can be, they almost seem more adapated to the world of 40K than normal humans. For the Empire of Man the world of 40k is super bleak and every day is one step from apocalypse, but as Chaos things are mostly going swimmingly and that corpse god would just gently caress off already we'd be set. But I especially like how seeing how life under Chaos isn't always that different from under the Imperium. Like yeah things are a bit... weirder... but the general flow is the same, lots of forced labor endlessly working on things bigger than yourself that you don't even fully understand, politics between different people vying for power, etc. If anything some Imperial planets are just as cruel or more so than Chaos planets.
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Oh hey, Traitor General is a Gaunt's Ghost book, should I probably read those in order? I like Abnett's writing so that's not a problem. (Eisenhorn and Ravenor  )
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You should definitely read those in order so you can grow attached to the characters before they're inevitably, horribly killed. There also are plot callbacks occasionally that won't make any sense otherwise.
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Apparently Amazon put up summaries for the rest of the Beast series that are somewhat spoilery. Most notably, toward the end we get to see the creation of the Deathwatch.
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Zaphod42 posted:Oh hey, Traitor General is a Gaunt's Ghost book, should I probably read those in order? The sabbat crusades make a lot more sense when you realize that Macaroth is warhammer Napoleon and therefore a massive dick to everyone. Just give the ghosts their goddamned planet already, Macaroth. 
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Traitor General was the first 40k book I read and I was able to follow along easily enough, it's pretty self contained. There's some spolierly references to past books but nothing major.
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Klaus88 posted:Just give the ghosts their goddamned planet already, Macaroth. At this point they'd barely fill an apartment block.
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Aw man, Eye of Terra is just another anthology of HH novellas and at least three that I've already read.
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Bit late, but I picked up Sabbat Crusade for a business trip, and would highly recommend it, even at the ridiculous price point.
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Read the first three Beast Arises books. Abnett's writing was okay, but the storyline was just poo poo. And the following two books were just poo poo all around. This is what they're wasting time with instead of Gaunt's Ghosts, a Pariah sequel and more good Heresy stuff? 
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Immanentized posted:Bit late, but I picked up Sabbat Crusade for a business trip, and would highly recommend it, even at the ridiculous price point. I picked up the hardback edition in the store and I was disappointed that it didn't have the artwork that was from that super limited edition run. That limited edition also had a reprint of the Sabbat World Crusade sourcebook, which they better loving rerelease if they're willing to put it in with the short stories.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Traitor General was the first 40k book I read and I was able to follow along easily enough, it's pretty self contained. There's some spolierly references to past books but nothing major. You know, weirdly, it was the same one I read too. A buddy just kinda stuffed it into my hands and told me to read it and welp now here I am.
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Arcsquad12 posted:I picked up the hardback edition in the store and I was disappointed that it didn't have the artwork that was from that super limited edition run. That limited edition also had a reprint of the Sabbat World Crusade sourcebook, which they better loving rerelease if they're willing to put it in with the short stories. Most likely said it before but I would love to see a sequel to that book since it ends at His Last Command and I would so want to see what the rest of the crusade has been up to to the point where Salvations Reach or Warmaster happens. Mostly because I can forget seeing a sequel to Double Eagle by now.  Also, The Inheritor King story in that book was amazing. Had no idea that Matthew Farrer could write AdMech so well.
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Just finished Betrayer. I kept imaging Erebus as Ted Cruz. The face suits him perfectly.
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Shbobdb posted:Just finished Betrayer. I kept imaging Erebus as Ted Cruz. The face suits him perfectly. Make Terra Great Again. WE're gonna build a yuuuuuuge palace and it will have a massive, luxury throne made of gold.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Make Terra Great Again. WE're gonna build a yuuuuuuge palace and it will have a massive, luxury throne made of gold. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1w4IxCXIxU
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Ben Counter and James Swallow both fall into a really strange place with their stories, where they seem to really get how hosed up and weird 40k is as a setting, and then they write about the most boring rear end things in it.
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Care to elaborate? Not to argue or anything just wanna see some examples.
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On the terms of weird 40K poo poo, I'd like to see some more Red Corsairs fluff. I'm writing a little short story about them, but the idea of a fast growing pirate fleet with rather spotty ties to Chaos is appealing to me.
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Arcsquad12 posted:On the terms of weird 40K poo poo, I'd like to see some more Red Corsairs fluff. I'm writing a little short story about them, but the idea of a fast growing pirate fleet with rather spotty ties to Chaos is appealing to me. "rather spotty ties to Chaos"? these dudes look pretty Chaosy to me 
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boom boom boom posted:"rather spotty ties to Chaos"? these dudes look pretty Chaosy to me Fine, varying degrees of chaos. Huron Blackheart is very much a Chaos lord, but the fluff does state that people join up with the Corsairs for any number of reasons. The fact that they also let xenos and normal humans join their ranks is sweet too. They also have the best battle cry: transmit a tirade of expletives and threats across all vox-caster frequencies as they ambush enemy ships and settlements
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Kharn_The_Betrayer posted:Care to elaborate? Not to argue or anything just wanna see some examples. First soul drinker book, they break up an orbital holding facility for Imperial slave labor. Now that sounds like a font of worthwhile stories to me, but its just turns out "space marines show up and break poo poo" type of area. For James Swallow, there's a really cool ocean world, and a giant weird rear end AD Mech. ship that winds up broken by the third quarter of the book.
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boom boom boom posted:"rather spotty ties to Chaos"? these dudes look pretty Chaosy to me
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Arquinsiel posted:Around the time that 6th ed came out the Corsairs went from being regular random marines with their chapter markings painted over in red to "yet another red and black Chaos dude".
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