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Crow Jane posted:I feel bad for you folks who don't have theaters with bars, they're the best thing ever. The Landmark chain even makes a silly special cocktail list "inspired" by whatever the big movie is at the time (the best was "The Comedian" when Watchmen was out, it was just a double shot of whiskey). And they sell pitchers of beer and sangria you can take in with you, plus they have a lounge area for pre-movie drinks. It's seriously great. I went to see Deadpool at the cinema recently (and it was pretty great, BTW), but it did remind me why I haven't been to the cinema in a long time before that. I got a good seat, but there were people paying $20 to sit way off to the side or practically right underneath the screen - the cinema I went to had assigned seating but the ticket price is the same regardless of which seat you get - or right next to some obnoxious stranger. And if you want an actually comfortable seat in a less crowded cinema where you can buy drinks then you pay double. For the price of seeing one movie in comfort I could get Netflix for four months. How is this still a viable business model?
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Because big dumb impressive looking action movies are only really enjoyable on a big old giant screen? Like try to watch one of the Transformers movies on a smallish computer monitor someday, it's almost impossible to force yourself to actually watch it as all it is is quick cut nonsense thats impossible to make out of that size. Also a hash oil vape pen is the real pro equipment for enjoying a nice long movie.
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Just wait a couple weeks after a movie comes out to see it. The theaters are usually only half full by then and you can get any seat easily if you show up 10-15 minutes before it starts. e: and speaking of feeling old I simply don't understand some videos on Youtube. This one has nearly a million views and I have no idea what that title means. It looks like randomly generated group of words slapped together. At first you think it must be a band name - song mashup, but it's just a video of people taste testing cupcakes? 
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Tiggum posted:I went to see Deadpool at the cinema recently (and it was pretty great, BTW), but it did remind me why I haven't been to the cinema in a long time before that. I got a good seat, but there were people paying $20 to sit way off to the side or practically right underneath the screen - the cinema I went to had assigned seating but the ticket price is the same regardless of which seat you get - or right next to some obnoxious stranger. And if you want an actually comfortable seat in a less crowded cinema where you can buy drinks then you pay double. For the price of seeing one movie in comfort I could get Netflix for four months. How is this still a viable business model? Because the latest movies aren't out on Netflix and won't be for a while after the cinema release, if at all. When a movie does show up on Netflix it's probably been available on demand long before that for a fee. Also the experience of the big screen and big sound is still miles better than watching at home or on your phone or whatever. Also for some people going out to see a movie is part of a social activity which is obviously a different kettle of fish to just sitting at home.
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Mar 15, 2016 04:13
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mobby_6kl posted:Not really a "dumb move in marketing" because it obviously works, but have you noticed these "sponsored stories" which seem to be recycled all over the place?
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Mar 15, 2016 04:28
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Mu Zeta posted:Just wait a couple weeks after a movie comes out to see it. The theaters are usually only half full by then and you can get any seat easily if you show up 10-15 minutes before it starts. Depending on the movie watching it in 2D / not Imax is a decent strategy too. That's how I saw Star Wars Ep VII on opening night in a half-empty theatre.
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Mar 15, 2016 13:50
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:Depending on the movie watching it in 2D / not Imax is a decent strategy too. That's how I saw Star Wars Ep VII on opening night in a half-empty theatre. You found a 2d StarWars showtime? Around here 3/4th of the showings were in 3d because they knew people would pay the price premium. You couldn't find a two dimensional viewing.
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I can also sympathize with the giant wall of text poster, if you stop watching TV all the commercials feel really alien and bizarre when you finally do. I mean, it's like it's this set of advertising tropes that you become used to and see as normal when you're constantly exposed to them, but that stop making sense if you stop seeing them. As for dumb ads I'll echo Spotify. It's no wonder barely anyone is actually advertising on it. I'll hear it go "watch this ad for 30 minutes of uninterrupted music", but you get that between ads anyway. I'm guessing the video just plays in the background and activates the "free minutes" even if you never actually see it. Half the time the ads are also for Spotify premium, and those ads basically mock you for not paying, going like "Have some standards, man.  if you had premium you could skip all the tracks you want" and about 1/3rd is for online casinos.I don't understand why they have such difficulty selling ad space on what's probably the most popular music streaming app in the world. All radio stations manage.
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Mar 15, 2016 14:18
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Tiggum posted:I went to see Deadpool at the cinema recently (and it was pretty great, BTW), but it did remind me why I haven't been to the cinema in a long time before that. I got a good seat, but there were people paying $20 to sit way off to the side or practically right underneath the screen - the cinema I went to had assigned seating but the ticket price is the same regardless of which seat you get - or right next to some obnoxious stranger. And if you want an actually comfortable seat in a less crowded cinema where you can buy drinks then you pay double. For the price of seeing one movie in comfort I could get Netflix for four months. How is this still a viable business model? I can't have the experience of a 3D movie with really cool, loud surround sound on an enormous screen at home. Most movies that come out I have no interest in but every now and again I like to have that experience. Something like How to Train Your Dragon in the theater is phenomenal. But yeah the price of everything in the theater has just gotten ridiculous. They charge absurd amounts of popcorn and soda, vomit ads for them at you before the movie, and then act confused when it turns out people are smuggling things in. Sorry but a soda shouldn't be seven loving dollars. Go to hell, Carmike. It doesn't help that Hollywood has decided to keep puking out rehashes, nostalgia bait, and formulaic bullshit. I don't want to shell out $30 for a movie ticket, popcorn, and a drink to sit and watch 30 minutes of adverts and then 90 minutes of a lovely movie.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:00
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ToxicSlurpee posted:But yeah the price of everything in the theater has just gotten ridiculous. They charge absurd amounts of popcorn and soda, vomit ads for them at you before the movie, and then act confused when it turns out people are smuggling things in. Sorry but a soda shouldn't be seven loving dollars. Go to hell, Carmike. This isn't the theater's fault.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:01
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The only good thing about living in middle of nowhere Ohio is that I bought two tickets for 10 Cloverfield Lane over the weekend and paid $12. I couldn't imagine paying the prices some of you do. Holy poo poo.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:11
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Lady Naga posted:This isn't the theater's fault. What? The theater sets the prices for their concessions, it's literally how they make money.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:12
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Captain Monkey posted:What? The theater sets the prices for their concessions, it's literally how they make money. I like how you act bewildered and then spell out the exact reason why it isn't their fault.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:14
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Lady Naga posted:I like how you act bewildered and then spell out the exact reason why it isn't their fault. I don't think you know what the word 'fault' means. They chose to do a thing, so it is their fault that the thing was done. That's how that word is used.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:15
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Captain Monkey posted:I don't think you know what the word 'fault' means. They chose to do a thing, so it is their fault that the thing was done. That's how that word is used. I would say that if I am compelled to do something through external pressures, I am not at fault for doing it.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:18
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Lady Naga posted:I would say that if I am compelled to do something through external pressures, I am not at fault for doing it. Don’t read this article.
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^^^ exactly ^^^Lady Naga posted:I would say that if I am compelled to do something through external pressures, I am not at fault for doing it. A desire to make money is not being forced by an external pressure. Having a gun to your head is an external pressure. The theaters could raise ticket prices and reduce snack prices or figure out another way to make money. They, instead, opted for the current model. You are consistently one of the densest and most unreasonably hard headed PYF posters though, so I don't know why I'm bothering.
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Captain Monkey posted:I don't think you know what the word 'fault' means. They chose to do a thing, so it is their fault that the thing was done. That's how that word is used. They either do that or close the business down because they aren't making any money.
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The theater nearby gives you free refills. This probably costs them pennies while making customers feel like they aren't getting bent over a barrel quiet so much. Personally I wish the food cost more. Especially the nachos, since they take 5 times as long to prepare and I'm always stuck behind some rear end in a top hat with a hankering for two of them.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:38
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Until we went to see starwars, I had not seen a movie in a theater in like a decade. We went to a reserved seating place with these huge rear end lounge chairs, it was amazing and totally worth the $17 per ticket. We also went to a 9am showing on a Tuesday, which meant we were two of six people in the theatre.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:43
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Captain Monkey posted:^^^ exactly ^^^ Considering I either charge extra for my concessions or my business goes under and I starve that's some pretty compelling external pressure.
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Mar 15, 2016 15:47
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Lady Naga posted:Considering I either charge extra for my concessions or my business goes under and I starve that's some pretty compelling external pressure. This seems like a bit of a false dichotomy.
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I went to a dine in amc and had a pretty good time the other day. 9 dollars for a seat but they were nice leather sofa chairs with electric reclining. Only around 50-60 seats for the whole theatre so I didn't feel cramped in. Ordered a soda for 4 dollars but they brought us two cups so me and my girlfriend both could have one each. They would bring a refill during the movie if you just pressed the call button next to your seat too which was nice. Food prices weren't too bad, maybe a dollar or two overpriced. Unlimited popcorn for 5 bucks too. (Yea I know those prices are high for popcorn and soda but compared to elsewhere it isn't too bad/they also bring it right too you and all)
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Thoughtless posted:This seems like a bit of a false dichotomy. It's hopeless, Lady Naga literally never backs down no matter how ridiculous the position. vvvv See? Just zero awareness of reality or cause and effect, it's actually kind of impressive. vvvv Yngwie Mangosteen has a new favorite as of 17:18 on Mar 15, 2016 |
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Mar 15, 2016 16:01
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Captain Monkey posted:It's hopeless, Lady Naga literally never backs down no matter how ridiculous the position. "Movie theaters have to make money to survive in a capitalistic society" is not a very ridiculous position.
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Mar 15, 2016 16:03
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Lady Naga posted:"Movie theaters have to make money to survive in a capitalistic society" is not a very ridiculous position. If they lowered prices maybe everyone wouldn't ignore the concessions stand and sneak food in all the time.
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If they were less belligerent about pricing maybe more people would actually go to the movies at all? Here I basically have the choice between an independent theater and a Carmike. For some mysterious reason the other theater is less lovely about everything, doesn't try to show you as many adverts as possible, and charges like 60% of the Carmike theater and somehow manages to stay in business. The few times I've gone to the Carmike theater it's been mostly deserted.
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Mar 15, 2016 18:16
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If I take my niece and two nephews to the movies, I know I'm spending at least $100, which sucks. Tickets + candy + drinks = $$$ If I take them to a movie with the D-Box seats, it's drat near $100 just for the tickets for us. It's worth it though, at least if you watch the right movie. Seeing Pacific Rim in DBox was loving sweet. D-Box is a experience far and few between though. Santikos is really the only theater to go to around here nowadays. There are AMC and a couple of other theaters that offer the bar/dine-in experience, but Santikos has everything (dine-in, dessert bar, bar, bowling, arcade, D-Box seats, etc). Basically, if you're going to the movies, you know you're gonna spend some cash.
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Mar 15, 2016 18:22
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If people aren't aware they make literally no money off of tickets, it all goes to the movie studio. So concessions are literally the only money coming in. I dont mind paying a little extra every few months to keep my local theatre going.
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I think the subscription service of the theatre I frequent has spoiled me. It's 25 euros a month (or 20 with additional fees for IMAX and 3D) which is cheaper than individual tickets at 3 movies. Also, a 25% discount on drinks and snacks, which I rarely use because I tend to eat out before/after the movie. The downside of this is that you end up seeing lots of crappy movies because the barrier of entry is so low. I saw (The Brothers) Grimsby in an otherwise empty room last week. Living the good life 
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Mar 15, 2016 18:33
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RagnarokAngel posted:If people aren't aware they make literally no money off of tickets, it all goes into Harvey Weinstein's gaping maw
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Yeah, don't expect the theater in your bumfuck city to be nice. I go to a theater at least every two weeks, plop down 20-30 bucks and enjoy it in a setting with quiet people. Check out the Landmark theaters, or higher end AMC's or Arclights. Don't live in a place with nice theaters? Don't go and then figure out a way to move out of Ohio.
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My local theater is all reserved seating in electric recliners, has a full service bar with great prices and appetizers, and lets you bring your drinks into the movie. Tickets are only a quarter more than at the lovely Marcus Cineplex a mile away that smells like mildew and charges eight bucks for a popcorn. I have no idea how they stay in business because their margins must be absolutely tiny but it's a really great experience all around - I've seen more movies in theaters in the six months I've lived here than in the past six years combined.
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I have a choice between a Landmark, an art house next to an awesome tapas bar that lets you take drinks inside, and a lovely old art deco place that may be a little ratty, but has a ton of character. All of them are surrounded by a variety of awesome restaurants and bars. I see a fair amount of movies, mostly as part of larger nights or afternoons out. I'm happy to give my money to any of those places, though I lean towards the latter two since they're locally owned (and closer to my house). They're building a CineBistro within walking distance. I can't imagine living somewhere where my only option was a Lowe's or something. I think I take city life for granted sometimes.
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RagnarokAngel posted:If people aren't aware they make literally no money off of tickets, it all goes to the movie studio. So concessions are literally the only money coming in. Literally this is what's going on. If the theater charged $3 extra dollars, that's $3 that's going towards the distributor. At least on opening weekend. Generally, the longer the film runs for, maybe the theater manages to get a cut. But for the bigger ones, let's say Star Wars, Disney may have managed to negotiate even beyond the Box Office gross and taken a bit off the concession. And they can do that because it's their way, or literal millions in sales opening Friday alone. It's also why theaters are presumably trying to reach out into other revenue like liquor sales, DBox seating, unusual trinkets (looking at you, cheap avengers statues with no purpose), alternative 3D glasses for sale, etc. Hell, up here in Canada, the company with a practical monopoly is branching out into Dave and Buster ripoffs because the Box Office isn't necessarily raking in cash. That or greed. One of those two. Also, as a dude whose had to clean up theaters. It's one thing bring in candy. I get it, it's a fallacy that snuck in candy is one less sale. Don't be obvious and no one will stop you. The only thing that is enforced is no Coffee/Tea. People have previously gotten seriously burned when one person tripped and spilled all over another person. Aside from that, the people that piss me off are the assholes who sneak in a bucket of chicken and drop the bones on the floor/in the seat. That's just loving rude and disgusting.
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SomeJazzyRat posted:Also, as a dude whose had to clean up theaters. It's one thing bring in candy. I get it, it's a fallacy that snuck in candy is one less sale. Don't be obvious and no one will stop you. The only thing that is enforced is no Coffee/Tea. People have previously gotten seriously burned when one person tripped and spilled all over another person. Aside from that, the people that piss me off are the assholes who sneak in a bucket of chicken and drop the bones on the floor/in the seat. That's just loving rude and disgusting. Are you cool with me bringing in booze if I promise to take the bottles home, rinse, and recycle them
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:Are you cool with me bringing in booze if I promise to take the bottles home, rinse, and recycle them Let me tell you a secret: the person cleaning up the place after you does not give a single poo poo what you do so long as you aren't making a mess.
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Yeah the ticket price you pay at the theater, the theater only keeps 10-15% of that. Closer to 10 and likely under. And that's from the last time I heard about it with specific numbers, in 2009-10, so that's probably outdated by now as well. I don't go to the movies often but I make it into a big deal when I do. Get me a big popcorn with those self-serve butter faucets  The ads are poo poo but you go with a friend so you can mock them. You've eaten most of the popcorn and snacks and drink by the time the movie's even started and will have to pee 20 mins in, it's ok, the bathrooms are very well kept as far as public bathrooms go. That's the Loews 15 mins away from me, anyway. When my friends and I were in our early teens we'd go to the movies every week at a smaller local-owned theater close by. Smaller, cramped theater, full of other teens, a mutiny occuring each weekend. $20 for the evening and you got your ticket and had enough leftover to get food at the diner across the street afterward. We saw good movies, lovely movies. Either way we had fun and it was nice spending time together watching movies and not having to be in someone's house and worry whether you were disturbing their family. I haven't gone to that theater in five or six years, the Loews is just so much nicer. Also at Loews I went to the matinee showing of Star Wars 7 and I think tickets were only $6.25. This was like Dec 27 or 26 as well, it's not like the movie had been out for a long time and was running cheap. So yeah I'll happily spend another $10-$12 on popcorn and a drink after that, that still comes out to about what i used to spend on a night out at the movies anyway v  vGoing to the movies might not appeal to everyone (goons especially I guess) but it's not the obsolete velocipede activity some people are making it out to sound like. The industry is definitely having issues because technology has marched on and rich people who got rich off the old stuff are scratching their asses with fear at the concept of "change" but there's also new ways theaters have made the experience more enjoyable to make up for the price hikes.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Let me tell you a secret: the person cleaning up the place after you does not give a single poo poo what you do so long as you aren't making a mess. Seriously, and if your kid's going to puke - get it all in the toilet or puke in one spot. Don't forge a vomit trail all the way to the bathroom. Yeah, the people who clean the theaters don't care if you bring in a pizza as long as you put your box in the trash.
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Yeah, literally nobody except Lady Naga wasn't aware of all of that. Except the cleaning crew stuff I guess.
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