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UnknownMercenary posted:Oh wait, you need that one? I'm down for that. The really tricky part now is just Winters, and that's just up to the RNG. poo poo, I still need Rep Beyond Reproach too.
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Dr Cheeto posted:Ghostnician confirmed for viable? Yep, fart build, then stick the remaining points into tech for drills/C4 then Grinder. stick extra points where ever. You won't have MAXIMUM KILLING, but you will do fine.
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Dr Cheeto posted:Ghostnician confirmed for viable? I know you're mostly joking, but drat near anything is apparently DW-viable these days if you're competent, and if your group is willing to pick up whatever slack your dumb gimmick of choice creates.
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Health regen and more powerful weapons have made that skill gap smaller too.
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For the difficulty masks, do you actually have to do every heist on every difficulty? Or will doing everything on OVK and DW, count for hard and very hard?
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Hobold posted:For the difficulty masks, do you actually have to do every heist on every difficulty?
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LuciferMorningstar posted:I know you're mostly joking, but drat near anything is apparently DW-viable these days if you're competent, and if your group is willing to pick up whatever slack your dumb gimmick of choice creates. The obvious big game changer for me has been health regen. DW was a bigger deal when you'd get cloaked at full health, then revived with one tenth of your health and downed again.
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Plan Z posted:The obvious big game changer for me has been health regen. DW was a bigger deal when you'd get cloaked at full health, then revived with one tenth of your health and downed again. For sure. And before health regen was everywhere, FAKs were really useful. I don't feel like I need to bring them anymore, though, since everyone is running grinder/muscle.
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LuciferMorningstar posted:I know you're mostly joking, but drat near anything is apparently DW-viable these days if you're competent, and if your group is willing to pick up whatever slack your dumb gimmick of choice creates. in non-coincidental news, the rest of us are pretty good at 3-manning deathwish
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Psion posted:in non-coincidental news, the rest of us are pretty good at 3-manning deathwish To be fair you're speaking for your group. I don't think I'm good enough.
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Skunkrocker posted:To be fair you're speaking for your group. I don't think I'm good enough. skunk the implication is that lucy is a bads
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Coolguye posted:skunk the implication is that lucy is a bads no the implication is that the rest of us are good enough to carry a turret build on DW, LM is a competent player who just makes bad choices in builds very bad.
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I've confirmed that pretty much all of the gameplay-relevant bugs on GGC are fixed. Cameras point where they should, civs don't stack up in a static location, no more panicking staff.
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http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSoLhIjeFGcDa:eda:ghEfCa:fRnOKEFGCda:ibcdea:pN8::w68-5-2-3:s66-16-11-7-9:a1 Is this build good?
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Psion posted:Depends, what HUD are you going to use with it Nnnnnnnnnnnormal hud, why
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BillmasterCozb posted:http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSoLhIjeFGcDa:eda:ghEfCa:fRnOKEFGCda:ibcdea:pN8::w68-5-2-3:s66-16-11-7-9:a1 Is this build good? It's usable, but I wouldn't call it good. Trigger Happy is never worth using; you can put those 4 points elsewhere, not even necessarily in the Fugitive tree. Acing Low Blow is usually a bad move but for the sake of the minigun I think it's fine. If you want to maximize the bonus, use the Gruber Kurz at 31 concealment instead of the LEO, although if you don't care about 3% crit/1% dodge feel free to keep using the LEO. Honestly though I think the main problem I have with it is that you don't have basic Cat Burglar and only basic Transporter; shameful quality of life goin' on in this build. And yet you've got Chameleon! Shameful.
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ClonedPickle posted:It's usable, but I wouldn't call it good. Trigger Happy is never worth using; you can put those 4 points elsewhere, not even necessarily in the Fugitive tree. Acing Low Blow is usually a bad move but for the sake of the minigun I think it's fine. If you want to maximize the bonus, use the Gruber Kurz at 31 concealment instead of the LEO, although if you don't care about 3% crit/1% dodge feel free to keep using the LEO. Honestly though I think the main problem I have with it is that you don't have basic Cat Burglar and only basic Transporter; shameful quality of life goin' on in this build. And yet you've got Chameleon! Shameful. Well, I use a concealment boost on the LEO and Minigun, and chameleon is to boost my concealment. I'll rework it with the advice you've given, thank you! edit: wait a minute..Chameleon's concealment boost only works in stealth, doesn't it? Son of a bitch
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Psion posted:no the implication is that the rest of us are good enough to carry a turret build on DW, LM is a competent player who just makes bad choices in builds You're just mad my turrets out-killed everyone on Hotline 2 
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Anyone has crash issues when entering vehicles? A buddy of mine had three last night, one of them ruining our Black Tie Event attempt for him when getting in the boat. Somehow the game seems to desync and drop him. No mods, verification done, the usual. It's not a new thing either, we've seen them from time to time, but only now have made the connection to vehicles.
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BillmasterCozb posted:http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSoLhIjeFGcDa:eda:ghEfCa:fRnOKEFGCda:ibcdea:pN8::w68-5-2-3:s66-16-11-7-9:a1 Is this build good? http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mSoLhIjeFGDa:efDa:ghEgCda:fROKEFGCda:ibcdea:pN8::w68-5-2-3:s66-11-7-9:a1 Drop the flash hider from the LEO, it doesn't push you into a new breakpoint. Cat burglar is necessary for suit builds IMO, you have to protect yourself from your greatest enemy: the staircase. Trigger happy is garbage, the stacks go away if you miss a single shot. Underdog, cleaner, and spotter are your reliable damage boosts.
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BillmasterCozb posted:edit: wait a minute..Chameleon's concealment boost only works in stealth, doesn't it? Son of a bitch never get chameleon
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Mark my words, Guessing Game will be the death of me.
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YET ANOTHER FAG posted:Mark my words, Guessing Game will be the death of me. ECM rush and hit switches randomly until you get it?
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YET ANOTHER FAG posted:Mark my words, Guessing Game will be the death of me. That thing is horrible. Even doing it on normal I wanted to shoot myself after about an hour. Never gonna try that again.
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oohhboy posted:ECM rush and hit switches randomly until you get it? ECMS don't keep the alarm from tripping when you cut the wire.
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YET ANOTHER FAG posted:ECMS don't keep the alarm from tripping when you cut the wire. It doesn't matter. Trip alarm, restart. Ecm are there to let you move around quickly. Completing the map is optional.
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oohhboy posted:It doesn't matter. Trip alarm, restart. Ecm are there to let you move around quickly. Completing the map is optional. Afaik you have to complete the heist in stealth without hacking the computer, so no completing the map is not optional.
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You can 2-man guessing game so find another buddy who needs it and grind it out. There is a correct first cut and correct second cut, not two correct boxes, so its 1/12 you get the right combo. ~20 runs should get it accounting for stealth flubs. Good tip: have one person stealthing and the other brings a saw to get through the doors faster. if you get spotted you can ecm to remain in stealth and just try two wires, saw the doors and run back to the van within 2 min Source: ive gotten guessing game for 4-5 people because im a crazy person
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I'm not sure how but I definitely just did it on my own & nearly had a heart attack. Thank you for sharing this moment with me, thread.
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Now that the Dockyard lab spawns every time, Guessing Game remains as the one most bullshit luck based cheevo in the game. I guess They See Me Bagging is another pretty bad one, but that one can be done by grinding Transport: Harbor a bunch on normal with saw + c4 build. It's not as bad as doing a bullshit stealth job the most retarded way possible and you can bring friends to dick around with completely outlandish builds and loadouts so it could even be entertaining for a while.
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YET ANOTHER FAG posted:Afaik you have to complete the heist in stealth without hacking the computer, so no completing the map is not optional. You don't need to, once you flip the second switch, the achievement pops. You just brute force it.
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I am a conscientious objector to Guessing Game.
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oohhboy posted:You don't need to, once you flip the second switch, the achievement pops. You just brute force it. Actually genius, you're wrong. Source: I just did the achievement & it did not unlock until I was standing in the escape zone with the server secured in the van.
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