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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

menino posted:

Which, to be fair, is functionally identical to a set of hard-line lists. There's a reason we in HR call applicant tracking systems 'post and pray'. There is just way too much noise in these systems at large companies to make finding a 'qualified' candidate worth it. I don't work for Google or Facebook but it's a fairly well known tech company and that's how it works here, I would be rather surprised if Google or FB actually have a better ATS than the industry norm.

I haven't used Google's, but FB's is the best I've used by far (of, admittedly, only a half-dozen). When I did new-grad interviews I was routinely talking to people who had cold-applied. They go into the same bucket as the ones we source from job fairs and whatnot, as far as I know, though the interview mechanics are somewhat different. For experienced candidates a larger proportion are cold inbound, perhaps obviously.

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menino
Jul 27, 2006

Pon De Floor

Subjunctive posted:

I haven't used Google's, but FB's is the best I've used by far (of, admittedly, only a half-dozen). When I did new-grad interviews I was routinely talking to people who had cold-applied. They go into the same bucket as the ones we source from job fairs and whatnot, as far as I know, though the interview mechanics are somewhat different. For experienced candidates a larger proportion are cold inbound, perhaps obviously.

Yeah I guess I should not be surprised by that. They have the very big advantage of less legacy systems and path dependence. I would not be surprised if they didn't even screen for college degrees, which is something I think would really help in the 'talent war' for software devs.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

menino posted:

Yeah I guess I should not be surprised by that. They have the very big advantage of less legacy systems and path dependence. I would not be surprised if they didn't even screen for college degrees, which is something I think would really help in the 'talent war' for software devs.

I interview probably a candidate a month that hasn't finished their degree (though they do have industry experience). Google used to be super hard line about it, but aren't any more from what I've heard.

Neither FB nor Google are really young companies, but they do have the advantage of a stable of developers who can build good tools, and who believe that recruiting/hiring is something worth investing in.

menino
Jul 27, 2006

Pon De Floor

Subjunctive posted:

I interview probably a candidate a month that hasn't finished their degree (though they do have industry experience). Google used to be super hard line about it, but aren't any more from what I've heard.

Neither FB nor Google are really young companies, but they do have the advantage of a stable of developers who can build good tools, and who believe that recruiting/hiring is something worth investing in.

They're not young by SV standards but just in a general 'tech' sector that would include HP/Intel/Cisco/Oracle/IBM, they are. All of those companies are aware of the need for good talent but some of them have had trouble retooling their interfaces to be more lean/agile/iterative/ideate/buzzwordbuzzword

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
This thread nose dived pretty quick from a pretty fun discussion about the absurd aspirations of millennials to boring computer janitor hiring chat

JamesKPolk
Apr 9, 2009

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

terrorist ambulance posted:

This thread nose dived pretty quick from a pretty fun discussion about the absurd aspirations of millennials to boring computer janitor hiring chat

much like the aspirations of millennials

Moatman
Mar 21, 2014

Because the goof is all mine.

Halolife was a pretty fun game.

But seriously, I checked their site and I don't think they look too awful. TBH, being able to plan your aging, possibly senile relatives' funerals without having to go halfway across the country is a fine convenience, but I don't think it's a convenience all that many people care about.
So of course they'll be have a bil+ valuation within six months.

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

I'm not sure even the bubbliest techiest greediest startup could be scammier than the average funeral home so go them.

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret
Yeah that's a really weird business. The traditional model has no choice but to sell people stuff they don't need with markups small picture and to crowd out alternatives big picture.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Anyone know anything about that mortgage app that advertised on the Superbowl? Rocket Mortgage?

Seems like the loving dumbest idea ever. Yes, let me make the most important big purchase of my life through an app on my phone. I can't wait until someone butt-dials a mortgage.

Not to mention their commercial was insulting in the "everyone has to be a homeowner and we are helping!" sense.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


WampaLord posted:

Anyone know anything about that mortgage app that advertised on the Superbowl? Rocket Mortgage?

Seems like the loving dumbest idea ever. Yes, let me make the most important big purchase of my life through an app on my phone. I can't wait until someone butt-dials a mortgage.

Not to mention their commercial was insulting in the "everyone has to be a homeowner and we are helping!" sense.

Rocket is Quicken. Don't know about the app, but the company is doing fine afaik.

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
I think its just a pre approval anyway

My last bit of hiring fun was sorting though a bunch of resumes for a special internship program, finding someone working on an area of interest for us, doing a bunch of annoying hr work, then finding out their grad gpa was unacceptable to higher management so everything ground to a halt :(

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

WampaLord posted:

Anyone know anything about that mortgage app that advertised on the Superbowl? Rocket Mortgage?

Seems like the loving dumbest idea ever. Yes, let me make the most important big purchase of my life through an app on my phone. I can't wait until someone butt-dials a mortgage.

Not to mention their commercial was insulting in the "everyone has to be a homeowner and we are helping!" sense.

Doesn't seem worse than doing preapproval over a web site, which is common enough.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

lancemantis posted:

I think its just a pre approval anyway

Subjunctive posted:

Doesn't seem worse than doing preapproval over a web site, which is common enough.

Well that's news to me, and makes a lot more sense. The commercial implied it was "Get your mortgage through this app!" as if it was going to be the entire process.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

WampaLord posted:

Well that's news to me, and makes a lot more sense. The commercial implied it was "Get your mortgage through this app!" as if it was going to be the entire process.

I'm sure that was not accidental.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Amazon has just started "Amazon Launchpad" which translates as "Take a product created through a Kickstarter or similar and sell it to a wider public." It's being promoted as "Discover Unique and Unexpected Products from today's brightest startups". The products include gems like Pavlok, a "wearable [i.e. black rubber wristband like all the other ones] that helps break bad habits and reduce cravings using vibration, beep, and a mild electric stimulus" (my daughter: "What about a rubber band on the wrist?"); Sleipnir, a $79 anemometer for your cellphone (husband and daughter: "You can't just wet your finger and stick it in the air?"), and a $99 water bottle that "tracks your hydration throughout the day" (via Bluetooth) but has no handle or carrying loop of any sort. That last is called the Mark One Pryme Vessyl, which sounds like it belongs in either a space vampire LARP or a fourth-rate metal band.

Ah, brave new world.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Amazon has just started "Amazon Launchpad" which translates as "Take a product created through a Kickstarter or similar and sell it to a wider public." It's being promoted as "Discover Unique and Unexpected Products from today's brightest startups". The products include gems like Pavlok, a "wearable [i.e. black rubber wristband like all the other ones] that helps break bad habits and reduce cravings using vibration, beep, and a mild electric stimulus" (my daughter: "What about a rubber band on the wrist?"); Sleipnir, a $79 anemometer for your cellphone (husband and daughter: "You can't just wet your finger and stick it in the air?"), and a $99 water bottle that "tracks your hydration throughout the day" (via Bluetooth) but has no handle or carrying loop of any sort. That last is called the Mark One Pryme Vessyl, which sounds like it belongs in either a space vampire LARP or a fourth-rate metal band.

Ah, brave new world.

Anemometers are useful in a lot of different niches - some work sites have to go under special operating procedures if the consistent or gusting wind speeds get above a certain amount. I can also think of several hobbies that benefit from knowing localized wind speeds (stunt kites, boating, model rockets/planes, etc). Sticking your finger in the air won't cut it.

That being said, I'm sure there are less expensive options.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Fair point. However, not only are there cheaper anemometers, there are cheaper cellphone anemometers.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
That reminds me of a kickstarted product that keeps popping up on my Facebook feed. It's called the Luup and it's a litter box with three interlocking parts that basically sifts itself so you don't have to scoop. Only...

It already loving exists, it's called a Lift and Sift. So it's a product that you can already walk into a store and buy, with a much less stupid name no less.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

DrNutt posted:

That reminds me of a kickstarted product that keeps popping up on my Facebook feed. It's called the Luup and it's a litter box with three interlocking parts that basically sifts itself so you don't have to scoop. Only...

It already loving exists, it's called a Lift and Sift. So it's a product that you can already walk into a store and buy, with a much less stupid name no less.

To be fair, there's also already a cat litter box that flushes itself too.

http://www.catgenie.com/

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

DrNutt posted:

That reminds me of a kickstarted product that keeps popping up on my Facebook feed. It's called the Luup and it's a litter box with three interlocking parts that basically sifts itself so you don't have to scoop. Only...

It already loving exists, it's called a Lift and Sift. So it's a product that you can already walk into a store and buy, with a much less stupid name no less.

I love those sorts of ads on FB, because you can comment on them. I always get the Soylent ads myself, those are lots of fun.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

WampaLord posted:

Anyone know anything about that mortgage app that advertised on the Superbowl? Rocket Mortgage?

Seems like the loving dumbest idea ever. Yes, let me make the most important big purchase of my life through an app on my phone. I can't wait until someone butt-dials a mortgage.

Not to mention their commercial was insulting in the "everyone has to be a homeowner and we are helping!" sense.

As someone who just closed on a house and went through the mortgage process, although not with Rocket, there is so much that goes into the mortgage that it would be nearly impossible to do strictly through an app. As others mentioned, it's probably the pre-approval, and then they hook you up with an actual loan officer once you go under contract. You have to get a pre-approval letter to put in with your offer on a property, and an app probably is a quick way to do that. Especially since pre-approval letters for a mortgage should get customized for that exact property you are offering, and they can probably spit that out quickly.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

Arsenic Lupin posted:

a $99 water bottle that "tracks your hydration throughout the day" (via Bluetooth) but has no handle or carrying loop of any sort.

You know what also tracks your hydration throughout the day? Your sense of thirst.

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
I'm going to make a $200 portable bluetooth bedpan that reminds you to urinate throughout the day.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Wheany posted:

I'm going to make a $200 portable bluetooth bedpan that reminds you to urinate throughout the day.

BedPang

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


You will be happy to know they also have a single-use ladyplug for urinary incontinence, where by "single-use" I mean you have to apply a new one every time you urinate. At $1 per plug, that adds up.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

DeathSandwich posted:

To be fair, there's also already a cat litter box that flushes itself too.

http://www.catgenie.com/

Washable cat litter. I can only imagine how horrible that stuff winds up smelling.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

lmbo

quote:

Ohlala, an app that facilitates "paid dates," caused a ripple of raised eyebrows when it launched in New York last month. Despite Ohlala's insistence that it is not about paying for sex, people had a hard time figuring out what it really was for. The company maintains that line, but a few mixed signals are making it hard for the message to stick. Go to the website and you'll be greeted with an image of a man and a women just about to kiss, before an explanation of how the service works. Further down, a small note exclaims, "Ohlala is not an escort service. Escorts are not welcome."
...
How much does a reliable platonic date cost? Users determine their own budget, but obviously cheaper dates get fewer responses. Poppenreiter tells me that in Germany, the going rate is about €250 ($275) per hour. A lot of money for a date you can't be sure will end happily.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Doesn't that already exist, well not in app form but as a website, in those skeezy sugar daddy dating offshoots.

Armani
Jun 22, 2008

Now it's been 17 summers since I've seen my mother

But every night I see her smile inside my dreams

Arsenic Lupin posted:

The products include gems like Pavlok, a "wearable [i.e. black rubber wristband like all the other ones] that helps break bad habits and reduce cravings using vibration, beep, and a mild electric stimulus" (my daughter: "What about a rubber band on the wrist?")

Rubber Bands have worked for (almost) every tweaker I've known.

clockworx
Oct 15, 2005
The Internet Whore made me buy this account

DrNutt posted:

Washable cat litter. I can only imagine how horrible that stuff winds up smelling.

I owned one. It didn't smell but was incredibly inefficient and wasteful, as well as limited since it had to be in range of a toilet for water/drainage. Every time a cat sets foot in it, it washed everything, then spent about 1/2 hr blow drying the plastic pellets. They bill it as "environmentally friendly", but I cannot think of any way you could possible make the thing more wasteful.

It was also lovely to come use the toilet and find the "output", which you were just intended to flush.

Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006

Didn't see this here, an e-mail claims Instacart is slashing rates for its drivers in certain markets.

Fortune posted:

Instacart is cutting pay rates for many of the drivers who work for the on-demand startup. According to the Wall Street Journal on Friday, the San Francisco-based grocery delivery service is slashing wages for drivers in its hometown by as much as 63%.

...

According to the report, Instacart’s wage cuts will be affecting drivers and shoppers across a number of its markets, including Los Angeles. With the new rates, some workers are estimated to have to triple the number of deliveries they make to earn the same amount as they previously did. The company is also dialing back the commission it pays shoppers per item in stores by 50% to just 25 cents a pop.

No idea if this means the company is hurting or they're just trying to wring more work out of employees for less pay, but sucks either way. The WSJ article it came from has more details, but is probably behind their paywall:

The Wall Street Journal posted:

But the immediate effect is many Instacart drivers will earn less for the same deliveries, said Josh Schwarzenbach, a driver in San Jose, Calif.

A shopping and delivery trip for 20 unique items to one customer would net him $15 under the current rate structure, he said, but only $12.50 when the new rates take effect next week, not including tips. Though Instacart is raising the minimum pay for a shopping and delivery trip to $7.50 from $5, the lower per-item commission makes earning more than $10 a delivery more difficult, he said.

With larger orders, the differential widens. A 40-item delivery today pays $25, excluding tips, but would drop to $17.50 in the new structure, based on a Journal calculation.

“It’ll be a lot harder to make what I earn now,” Mr. Schwarzenbach said. “It was a good gig to earn some extra money, but I don’t think it makes much sense anymore.”

He said Instacart used to guarantee drivers $10 an hour regardless of whether they made a delivery, before switching to fees based on the number of deliveries. Instacart also cut to 50 cents from 70 cents the per-item fee it pays drivers for Costco Wholesale Corp. items, while maintaining the $10-a-delivery minimum.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Nobody's mentioned SpoonRocket shutting down yet?

quote:

SpoonRocket informed its investors it’s shutting down its on-demand pre-made meal delivery service after failing to raise the necessary capital to continue operations.

[Update: Co-founder Steven Hsiao confirmed SpoonRocket’s shut down. The company published a goodbye blog post saying it will transition customers to competitor Sprig, which is offering SpoonRocket users a $10 discount.]

screen322x572SpoonRocket had reached a positive contribution margin — it was selling meals for more than it cost to cook them. But due to other costs and the frosty fundraising climate, it wasn’t able to get the money it needed to continue operating. The startup found an unnamed quick-service restaurant (QSR) chain to acquire it, Hsiao tells me. But the acquirer abandoned the deal, leaving SpoonRocket to die. “Last minute, all signs pointed to something getting done, but they pulled out. It’s just an unfortunate situation,” Hsiao said with obvious disappointment in his voice.
http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/15/spoonrocket-shuts-down/

Hard to tell how much of an indictment this is of the general "on-demand stuff" model this is, since even to the most naive and optimistic techie imaginable it was obvious that there were far too many players in the on-demand food space, there was no way most of them were going to survive.

Cicero fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Mar 15, 2016

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer

Marenghi posted:

Doesn't that already exist, well not in app form but as a website, in those skeezy sugar daddy dating offshoots.

Sugar websites never handle the transactions themselves. By paying for the company of a woman through the app, you're not in a sugar relationship anymore, you're definitely buying an escort.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Marenghi posted:

Doesn't that already exist, well not in app form but as a website, in those skeezy sugar daddy dating offshoots.

You're thinking of Craigslist/Backpages.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

Cicero posted:

Nobody's mentioned SpoonRocket shutting down yet?

http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/15/spoonrocket-shuts-down/

Hard to tell how much of an indictment this is of the general "on-demand stuff" model this is, since even to the most naive and optimistic techie imaginable it was obvious that there were far too many players in the on-demand food space, there was no way most of them were going to survive.

On-demand stuff maybe work in the core areas of maybe 20 cities on the planet to be generous.

The problem is most of these idiots don't understand this and if you live outside of these areas it's loving useless.

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend :)

moller posted:

This attitude seems to rely on not needing a job to not be homeless and internetless.

pangstrom posted:

"Sure, I get this 'money', but stringing together 9 porn- and nap-free hours? I don't think so. And don't get me started on driving places."

This is old, but pretty much. I mean, to be fair, I personally, would probably not spend all my time on porn, but work on dumb little games and software and art and stuff that excite me but could never actually pay my bills. I recognize I'm a work-shy malcontent, though. But I think everyone should be, and that's the real goal of automation and tech and so on.

I also know that I'm practically living the dream coming from a great school in a great field that tolerates so much bullshit from me. I just think that really should be the case for everyone.

Mrit posted:

Exactly. If you are fully qualified for a job, you will be bored. If in the long list of qualifications you are at least 50% of the way there, you should be fine.

I know this is how things are set up, but this is an awful system and probably a good cover story for filtering out minority candidates. "See, Tia wasn't even qualified so that's why we didn't bring her in. Oh, but we just took a chance on Clint and he surprised us."

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
And by some weird coincidence, Clint is more likely to be a younger white male.

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pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret

foobardog posted:

This is old, but pretty much. I mean, to be fair, I personally, would probably not spend all my time on porn, but work on dumb little games and software and art and stuff that excite me but could never actually pay my bills. I recognize I'm a work-shy malcontent, though. But I think everyone should be, and that's the real goal of automation and tech and so on.

I also know that I'm practically living the dream coming from a great school in a great field that tolerates so much bullshit from me. I just think that really should be the case for everyone.
Kind of a bigger topic so I won't take it past this but, even if you elide the paycheck aspect: I would argue that work-shy malcontents are (on the whole) the ones who benefit the MOST from having a do-nothing job, since they're at least getting some social skills and professional culture exposure while they get some room to work on what they want to (short of naps and porn etc.). I don't presume to claim that you're not an exception, of course.

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