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rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


BizarroAzrael posted:

Reminds me, I'm much too excited for the Sorin reveal tomorrow.

Sorin is a cool vampire, I bet we would be friends

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JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

rabidsquid posted:

I like Jace, emotionally he resonates with me

Source your quotes.

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

rabidsquid posted:

Sorin is a cool vampire, I bet we would be friends

He'd feel bad when he has to destroyexile you because you flipped into a card that exclusively destroys Caliform Pools and makes Relentless Rats relent.

GrapeFetus
Mar 21, 2009
Woah! So crazy spoiler season right guys? This might be bad timing, but maybe a post that's not about who hid the clue up Emrakul's tentacley pussy, Nahiri and Avacyn having their period, or Jace's sweet new coat could be refreshing.

So I do alters! I also lurk this thread a ton and I've gathered you all are masochistically tied to modern, McMagic is an idiot, and the MTG secondary market is a fuckshow. So since there isn't an official SA MTG Alters: Drink until you Alter until You Shake from Drinking official thread, I'm gonna post some stuff here for you guys. Hopefully some of you will enjoy them, if not please enjoy them by telling me to gently caress right off and feeling some kind of rush from that!

Onto my poo poo! I'll post these starting with my earliest I'm willing to share onto my latest alter, so maybe there will be a bit of improvement shown.

First up, Wrath of God. My very first alter. I'm pretty heavy handed with the paint on this one, and it shows.
http://imgur.com/X0d5YES

Next up, Thoughtseize and a few things for EDH.
http://imgur.com/mG2l4JK
http://imgur.com/UOvuhTA
http://imgur.com/JIRPKtt
http://imgur.com/FdKSkAT
http://imgur.com/9Dm3gGI
http://imgur.com/zLR3TPq
http://imgur.com/xgKkKfT

Then I did some foil art swaps. These were a lot of fun.
http://imgur.com/joPbOtH
http://imgur.com/GzbAnhP
http://imgur.com/DrKlDCi
http://imgur.com/36rCtol
http://imgur.com/hEKsVPv

I did a few full art Zendikar lands. I intend to finish the cycle.
Swamp
http://imgur.com/bZ7nXqK
Mountain
http://imgur.com/kKM7sS3
Forest
http://imgur.com/obmsQpn

Started building a cube, so I've been painting proxies and altering some cards to start the pimp process, because I'm broke.
http://imgur.com/xJIaES8
http://imgur.com/Bh9ZAFJ
http://imgur.com/uPVMbdb
http://imgur.com/HMDvueF

And Finally, my latest alter. A commander we all know and love, Marath.
http://imgur.com/JdsV2uv

Hey maybe you liked some of these!
Yeah, you can go back to speculating about possible Gossamer planewalker ultimates.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
Gaby Spartz is streaming and going to reveal some more Vampires. Probably just some limited fodder, but you never know: http://www.twitch.tv/gabyspartz

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

GrapeFetus posted:

Woah! So crazy spoiler season right guys? This might be bad timing, but maybe a post that's not about who hid the clue up Emrakul's tentacley pussy, Nahiri and Avacyn having their period, or Jace's sweet new coat could be refreshing.

:yeah:

I love card alters. This is some good stuff!

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

BJPaskoff posted:

Gaby Spartz is streaming and going to reveal some more Vampires. Probably just some limited fodder, but you never know: http://www.twitch.tv/gabyspartz

I think I missed it but people are saying she revealed a

b
vampire
2/2

If during your upkeep if your opponent doesn't have less than 10 life, lose 1 life or something

I guess its also a reprint?

80s James Hetfield
Jan 20, 2004

METAL UP YOUR ASS

GrapeFetus posted:

Woah! So crazy spoiler season right guys? This might be bad timing, but maybe a post that's not about who hid the clue up Emrakul's tentacley pussy, Nahiri and Avacyn having their period, or Jace's sweet new coat could be refreshing.

So I do alters! I also lurk this thread a ton and I've gathered you all are masochistically tied to modern, McMagic is an idiot, and the MTG secondary market is a fuckshow. So since there isn't an official SA MTG Alters: Drink until you Alter until You Shake from Drinking official thread, I'm gonna post some stuff here for you guys. Hopefully some of you will enjoy them, if not please enjoy them by telling me to gently caress right off and feeling some kind of rush from that!

Onto my poo poo! I'll post these starting with my earliest I'm willing to share onto my latest alter, so maybe there will be a bit of improvement shown.

First up, Wrath of God. My very first alter. I'm pretty heavy handed with the paint on this one, and it shows.
http://imgur.com/X0d5YES

Next up, Thoughtseize and a few things for EDH.
http://imgur.com/mG2l4JK
http://imgur.com/UOvuhTA
http://imgur.com/JIRPKtt
http://imgur.com/FdKSkAT
http://imgur.com/9Dm3gGI
http://imgur.com/zLR3TPq
http://imgur.com/xgKkKfT

Then I did some foil art swaps. These were a lot of fun.
http://imgur.com/joPbOtH
http://imgur.com/GzbAnhP
http://imgur.com/DrKlDCi
http://imgur.com/36rCtol
http://imgur.com/hEKsVPv

I did a few full art Zendikar lands. I intend to finish the cycle.
Swamp
http://imgur.com/bZ7nXqK
Mountain
http://imgur.com/kKM7sS3
Forest
http://imgur.com/obmsQpn

Started building a cube, so I've been painting proxies and altering some cards to start the pimp process, because I'm broke.
http://imgur.com/xJIaES8
http://imgur.com/Bh9ZAFJ
http://imgur.com/uPVMbdb
http://imgur.com/HMDvueF

And Finally, my latest alter. A commander we all know and love, Marath.
http://imgur.com/JdsV2uv

Hey maybe you liked some of these!
Yeah, you can go back to speculating about possible Gossamer planewalker ultimates.

Could you do something like this? Quote me a price via PM?

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Merciless Resolve is pretty cool for limited. Instant speed, so you can use to take some sting out of removal.

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010

Devor posted:

Merciless Resolve is pretty cool for limited. Instant speed, so you can use to take some sting out of removal.

What's up with "or land" though? Seems like a weird rider to add onto a card unless I'm missing some fun interaction.

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

dragon enthusiast posted:

What's up with "or land" though? Seems like a weird rider to add onto a card unless I'm missing some fun interaction.

Sometimes you would rather sac a land than a creature? :shrug:

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Sickening posted:

I think I missed it but people are saying she revealed a

b
vampire
2/2

If during your upkeep if your opponent doesn't have less than 10 life, lose 1 life or something

I guess its also a reprint?



Strictly-better Vampire Interloper is cool.
Those all seem like decent role-players in a limited vampires deck.

Merciless Resolve is basically an instant black Divination in the late game when you don't care about lands (which is when you most want to cast divination) and I'm sure there's sacrifice synergies (we've already seen red cards that make Goblin Arsonist devil tokens)

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

JerryLee posted:

Sometimes you would rather sac a land than a creature? :shrug:

Some flood protection in limited seems pretty great. Surprised its instant speed at common though. Pretty solid.

Sleep of Bronze
Feb 9, 2013

If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

dragon enthusiast posted:

What's up with "or land" though? Seems like a weird rider to add onto a card unless I'm missing some fun interaction.

In really creature light control decks, you don't want to sac your finisher, if it's out at all?

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

dragon enthusiast posted:

What's up with "or land" though? Seems like a weird rider to add onto a card unless I'm missing some fun interaction.

It helps you turn on Delirium by getting a land card into your graveyard.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

Sickening posted:

I think I missed it but people are saying she revealed a

b
vampire
2/2

If during your upkeep if your opponent doesn't have less than 10 life, lose 1 life or something

I guess its also a reprint?



Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

Vampire aggro is going to be so good this standard. Lacerator is the poo poo.

Telex
Feb 11, 2003

if anything I think a cycle of rare duals for this block would almost definitely be a discard or ETB tapped or a mill 1 or ETB tapped or something to put a card in the graveyard.

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

Devor posted:

Merciless Resolve is pretty cool for limited. Instant speed, so you can use to take some sting out of removal.

We just had Altar's Reap in BFZ and the effect ends up being a lot worse than it looks like, almost unplayable. It's too hard to hold up the mana in the early game, and late game you'd just rather have Divination or Read the Bones or whatever.

I like the card but I don't think sacrificing a creature is going to be very relevant, unless you're pitching some filler creature to enable Delirium. You're not going to sit there very long waiting for a removal spell from your opponent, you're going to sacrifice a land asap so you can develop your board some more.

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

Telex posted:

if anything I think a cycle of rare duals for this block would almost definitely be a discard or ETB tapped or a mill 1 or ETB tapped or something to put a card in the graveyard.

Why do people think milling one is enough of a downside for a dual land (or a downside at all)

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

The Shortest Path posted:

Vampire aggro is going to be so good this standard. Lacerator is the poo poo.

It also has a healthy madness thing going with Youths and the discard-to-transform one.

So it's Vampire Madness.

Telex
Feb 11, 2003

little munchkin posted:

Why do people think milling one is enough of a downside for a dual land (or a downside at all)

well if there was a set with gaining a life or scry 1, I don't know that a downside is a requirement exactly. So maybe it'd work as mill 1 and ETB on the duals, not or.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Telex posted:

a mill 1 or ETB tapped

That's not even a downside at all, those would be instant 4-ofs in modern.

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

ETBT and mill yourself X would have to be at least 2-3 or it wouldn't be good enough to print at rare.

ETBT or mill would be completely and utterly broken

ETBT or discard is the most likely if they do a new cycle of duals but I'm not sure they'll go there.



Only slightly related but I'd like to see a land that taps for colorless or taps and discard a card for one of any color.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

The Shortest Path posted:

Only slightly related but I'd like to see a land that taps for colorless or taps and discard a card for one of any color.

Continuous card disadvantage just to fix your colors? That's madness!

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Sickening posted:

I think I missed it but people are saying she revealed a

b
vampire
2/2

If during your upkeep if your opponent doesn't have less than 10 life, lose 1 life or something

I guess its also a reprint?



Man SoI is full of (vampire) child soldiers.

Bread Set Jettison
Jan 8, 2009

I like the shining reference card

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011


Vampire Lacerator wasn't confirmed at all though. Gaby didn't spoil it on her stream, and no one else has it as a spoiler.

anglachel
May 28, 2012
Hmm, I wonder if Origins Chandra will be playable with new Olivia? Origins Chandra's big weakness was always that she almost always got immediately shocked or removed before she could do anything. A 3/3 with haste is more likely to flip immediately and is safe(er) from Wild Slash.

Lets Pickle
Jul 9, 2007

These kids are crazy!

Also I'm pretty sure Merciless Resolve is mediocre to okay filler, even in Limited. Altar's Reap has always been bad to okay at one mana less. It's been best in sets with a sacrifice subtheme but even then there are usually better sacrifice outlets.

Vampire Support 1 is cool, a 3/5 for 3 is cool, better Vampire Interloper is cool, Vampires look pretty nasty in Limited.

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

anglachel posted:

Hmm, I wonder if Origins Chandra will be playable with new Olivia? Origins Chandra's big weakness was always that she almost always got immediately shocked or removed before she could do anything. A 3/3 with haste is more likely to flip immediately and is safe(er) from Wild Slash.

Wild Slash is leaving standard.

Lets Pickle
Jul 9, 2007

anglachel posted:

Hmm, I wonder if Origins Chandra will be playable with new Olivia? Origins Chandra's big weakness was always that she almost always got immediately shocked or removed before she could do anything. A 3/3 with haste is more likely to flip immediately and is safe(er) from Wild Slash.

You'd still have to attack, cast a red spell, untap and activate her to flip her.

anglachel
May 28, 2012

Lets Pickle posted:

These kids are crazy!

Also I'm pretty sure Merciless Resolve is mediocre to okay filler, even in Limited. Altar's Reap has always been bad to okay at one mana less. It's been best in sets with a sacrifice subtheme but even then there are usually better sacrifice outlets.

It should be fine in limited, I can see sacrificing a land at instant speed to enable delirium being potentially good.

Count Bleck posted:

Wild Slash is leaving standard.

Well maybe this is baby Chandra's time to shine. I think she is better than people give her credit for. She almost always immediately caught a shot to the face to make sure she didnt flip whenever i played around with her.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.
Is drafting 5 colors and every single cool looking rare a strategy in Ravnica because this fucken guy just did it and there's a ton of cool cards I wish were in my deck that this guy is discarding because he can't fuckin' cast them

Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Mar 17, 2016

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Lets Pickle posted:

These kids are crazy!

Also I'm pretty sure Merciless Resolve is mediocre to okay filler, even in Limited. Altar's Reap has always been bad to okay at one mana less. It's been best in sets with a sacrifice subtheme but even then there are usually better sacrifice outlets.

I think it's actually going to be significantly better than Altar's Reap (which admittedly is usually close to unplayable) in Limited. You most want to be casting divinations when you've run out of stuff to cast that actually affects that board, and that tends to be later in the game when you often have extra lands, and putting a land in your graveyard to help turn on Delirium could definitely be a thing.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

I think Vampire Interloper might have some constructed potential. The ability is reasonably costed and it seems insane with Drana in particular.

Sigma-X
Jun 17, 2005

The Shortest Path posted:

ETBT and mill yourself X would have to be at least 2-3 or it wouldn't be good enough to print at rare.

ETBT or mill would be completely and utterly broken

ETBT or discard is the most likely if they do a new cycle of duals but I'm not sure they'll go there.



Only slightly related but I'd like to see a land that taps for colorless or taps and discard a card for one of any color.

I feel like if you remove the "ETBT or" bit, you can print really pushed lands like:

DiscardShardLand

When this ETB, discard a card.
T: add W, U, or B to your mana pool.

They'd have fringe use in decks with flashback, madness, goyf/delerium, dredge, etc functionality, while not being actual trilands anywhere else. I don't think this would warp legacy dredge significantly since they already just run a bunch of 5 color lands, although the uncounterable

Or:
MillDual
Swamp Island
When this ETB, exile the top 10 cards of your library.
T: add U or B to your manapool.

actual mill is just basically drawing cards in certain decks, so that's not a drawback, but exiling a huge chunk of the deck puts deck building constraints on the land while allowing it to be a full power dual. This card wouldn't work in Storm but could be just fine in an aggressive deck or certain midrange/control builds, and a cycle of these lands might enable a future set of cards built around the shelldock isle mechanic.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.
Goddamn the art for Olivia's new card is horrible and her card has a ridiculous name.

Also, Drana's $16 now.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Angry Grimace posted:

Goddamn the art for Olivia's new card is horrible and her card has a ridiculous name.

Also, Drana's $16 now.

Basically doubled. Crazy.

It also appears that people are prepared to spec pretty hard on battle lands pretty soon. If you have a color combo you think you want to play, especially if that includes the b/r one, please trade or buy them now while their 2-3 bucks.

Just like all other mtg finance discussion, don't be dumb and try to make money on cardboard. This is just a heads up in case you wanted to play with these cards in the future and didn't want to spend 8-10 bucks per later.

Sickening fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Mar 17, 2016

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checkplease
Aug 17, 2006



Smellrose
The twins look interesting for pauper. Black doesn't currently have a good madness creature like arrogant wurm.

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