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Idk, I just think the simplest explanation is that they showed up to a shoot not knowing there would be some straight up white power bullshit on display that they couldn't edit out and decided to go ahead anyway, and then through the editorial process decided the best thing to do was not hide it and not make it a focal point either.
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White supremacy is one of those things that you need to acknowlege, otherwise you're basically condoning/normalizing it.
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Thought this was amusing and interesting http://dangerousminds.net/comments/trump_fans_viciously_lampooned_by_new_video1 Thought this was particularly choice quote:“I’ve noticed that some of the Trump fans loved it,” said Tyler Montague, founder and president of PIA. “They’re like, ‘Yeah, this is everything Trump is about, this is dead on.’ We’re like, ‘You’re kidding us, right?’”
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beatlegs posted:While allowing other members of that family to claim they traditionally voted Democrat (implying they voted for Obama)? I mean it's laughable. To be fair Arkansas had single party Democratic rule for like 150 years
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beatlegs posted:PBS fallin' asleep at the wheel. Occasionally I read comment sections and that one is funny, because someone screencapped what appears to be Grace Tilly aggressively defending herself on FB. Apparently the cross is just "Odin's Cross" and "you can look it up" and the 88 is uuuuuhhhhh, she hasn't figured that out yet.
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beatlegs posted:White supremacy is one of those things that you need to acknowlege, otherwise you're basically condoning/normalizing it. Agreed, but at the same time I don't know how you deal with this directly without blowing up the segment or being complicit in hiding the tats. Not an excuse or defense for it, none of my posts should be read as much, just a practical attempt to imagine their thought process.
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Levantine posted:Occasionally I read comment sections and that one is funny, because someone screencapped what appears to be Grace Tilly aggressively defending herself on FB. Apparently the cross is just "Odin's Cross" and "you can look it up" and the 88 is uuuuuhhhhh, she hasn't figured that out yet. You would think she of all people would know to claim Dale Earnhardt Jr
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Plus Flint residents were paying out the nose for that water. Like $70/mo iirc
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Epic High Five posted:Plus Flint residents were paying out the nose for that water. Like $70/mo iirc Hey, poison ain't cheap.
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Hermetic posted:Well, you've got to be evenhanded (by which we mean "ignore the growing insanity of the political right") in order to tell the full story (by which we mean "keep right-wing politicians from destroying PBS by denying it funding"). I feel like this described pretty much all the "balance" we have these days.
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Conservatives are nowadays taking the "entitlement mentality" poo poo so far they are now advocating that people aren't even entitled to the things they have paid for.
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Axetrain posted:Conservatives are nowadays taking the "entitlement mentality" poo poo so far they are now advocating that people aren't even entitled to the things they have paid for. That seems like a given considering wealth inequality in the USA. Just the math dictates that if your party is defending it you'll eventually have to defend poor people putting their money in the pockets of ALL TIME HIGH SCOOORE rich people and getting jack poo poo for it.
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Mar 17, 2016 00:42
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Letting the rich gently caress you as hard as they want is your duty as an American. Complaining about having your life ruined is for people who don't take responsibility for their lives.
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Deified Data posted:My mind had to do a couple flips to see anything resembling a trans joke there, the first obstacle of course being "it's like if Ann Coulter was a male" is such an easier conclusion to reach unless you're actively trying to upset yourself. Nah there is a long history of joking around that Ann Coulter has a dick in online leftist circles. Started way back in 2005, with the super classy erotic web fiction I hosed Ann Coulter in the rear end, Hard  Nowadays this is kinda patently a no-no which is why you see hacks like Crowder and republican facebooks memes festering on that stuff.
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I'm happy that people are starting to see through the "Bootstraps" facade that the right wing has been spouting off since the 70's. The right wing starting to blame the lower and middle class as being the reason for their own problems just makes me laugh. People are starting to see through the bullshit and are having enough. Denying people have the right to clean drinking water....what in the gently caress? These are the types of things christian loving missionaries talk about when asking for donations for -insert third world country here-
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Clean drinking water is just another one of those totally weird things that America is just too darn different to get right. Like healthcare without a profit motive or not jailing an appalling amount of ethnics. So move along now, nothing to do here.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Clean drinking water is just another one of those totally weird things that America is just too darn different to get right. Like healthcare without a profit motive or not jailing an appalling amount of ethnics. So move along now, nothing to do here. We really are a third world country in denial, aren't we?
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Geostomp posted:We really are a third world country in denial, aren't we? Trump is the el presidente we deserve at this point.
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Levantine posted:Occasionally I read comment sections and that one is funny, because someone screencapped what appears to be Grace Tilly aggressively defending herself on FB. Apparently the cross is just "Odin's Cross" and "you can look it up" and the 88 is uuuuuhhhhh, she hasn't figured that out yet. Yea, its pretty hilarious because the White Power Celtic Cross is very specific and visually different from the normal one.
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Geostomp posted:We really are a third world country in denial, aren't we? If you look at right wing thought they really, really want America to be a third world country. We're also progressing to that point too. For as much as the right likes to chest thump about how awesome America is and we're #1 in literally everything we, well, aren't. America is lagging behind the rest of the developed world in everything that isn't putting people in jail or military spending. That gap increases every year. Now we're starting to see some brain drain going on; college grads that can't find decent jobs and can't pay their student loans are going "lol gently caress this poo poo" and buggering off to Europe. Can you blame them? Same with extremely Republican states. The educated and skilled are leaving for less lovely places.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Now we're starting to see some brain drain going on; college grads that can't find decent jobs and can't pay their student loans are going "lol gently caress this poo poo" and buggering off to Europe. Can you blame them? Same with extremely Republican states. The educated and skilled are leaving for less lovely places. You had me up to this. As far as I can tell, people still come from around the world to study at our top universities and work in high tech jobs. Maybe I'm just biased because I live in Silicon Valley, but I definitely don't see the educated and skilled leaving the US.
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DeadlyMuffin posted:
Yeah, you have a pretty skewed perspective
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ToxicSlurpee posted:If you look at right wing thought they really, really want America to be a third world country. We're also progressing to that point too. For as much as the right likes to chest thump about how awesome America is and we're #1 in literally everything we, well, aren't. America is lagging behind the rest of the developed world in everything that isn't putting people in jail or military spending. That gap increases every year. There is not an appreciable amount of people going to Europe from the US.
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Germans did the math on subsidizing foreigners in universities and figured that if they stay in country for 2 or 3 years and work at a German company, they will have effectively paid back the government expenditures via income tax. Math is fun. Investing in your country's/society's future is even more fun. Anyways, have a funny clip making fun of Australian news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihrRSnkvFNw
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Tarezax posted:Yeah, you have a pretty skewed perspective Is there any data on educated Americans fleeing the country?
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I have no idea, but you can't extrapolate your experiences from the heart of the tech startup bubble to the rest of the country dude
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DeadlyMuffin posted:You had me up to this. As far as I can tell, people still come from around the world to study at our top universities and work in high tech jobs. That's one of the cases where there's some disconnect. A lot of the world's top schools are still in America and the tech sector is still very American. computer parts posted:There is not an appreciable amount of people going to Europe from the US. What I read was that people under absurd amounts of student loans that could find work in Europe have, in small but significant numbers, been living in places like Germany, sometimes for grad school, sometimes for work. Then just not coming back. One of the weird things is that some found they could safely just ignore their loans so long as they left the U.S. and never came back.
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Axetrain posted:Conservatives are nowadays taking the "entitlement mentality" poo poo so far they are now advocating that people aren't even entitled to the things they have paid for. Sue the Flint residents for stealing lead, this entitlement mentality has gone too far when people think they can just hoard costly heavy metals in their tissues without paying fair market value.
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Back to the topic of the thread; Master Shake was ranting about yesterdays results, and the best part was that he stated that Cruz would have had a good night last night, if it weren't for Rubio, Kasich, and Trump. He then paused for several seconds to reflect on the gravity of that statement.
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Goatman Sacks posted:Back to the topic of the thread; Master Shake was ranting about yesterdays results, and the best part was that he stated that Cruz would have had a good night last night, if it weren't for Rubio, Kasich, and Trump. Wait, Master Levin actually reconsidered what he said? Is the world ending?
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Same with extremely Republican states. The educated and skilled are leaving for less lovely places. I went from Florida to Washington and, while my quality of life is insanely better, I feel guilty about making Florida slightly more Republican.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:What I read was that people under absurd amounts of student loans that could find work in Europe have, in small but significant numbers, been living in places like Germany, sometimes for grad school, sometimes for work. Then just not coming back. One of the weird things is that some found they could safely just ignore their loans so long as they left the U.S. and never came back. This is why there aren't appreciable numbers. Certainly there aren't now in the midst of a refugee crisis.
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RZA Encryption posted:I went from Florida to Washington and, while my quality of life is insanely better, I feel guilty about making Florida slightly more Republican. The worst part is that this is going to make political polarization even worse. America would be a much better place if people encountered a large spectrum of political views in their daily lives, but this basically never happens. Did that ever used to happen? There's certainly evidence that ideologically, Americans are more polarized than ever - but has the geographic aspect of that gotten worse as well?
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Not especially. the "Solid South" has been a thing since Reconstruction. Outside of there, you had Democrats running the major cities' political machines and I'm not 100% sure what Republicans were up to but with the exception of Grover Cleveland and Woodrow Wilson they had utter dominance of the White House from the 1870s until the Great Depression. It's quite possible that will make a return, with the roles reversed.
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computer parts posted:Not especially. the "Solid South" has been a thing since Reconstruction. Outside of there, you had Democrats running the major cities' political machines and I'm not 100% sure what Republicans were up to but with the exception of Grover Cleveland and Woodrow Wilson they had utter dominance of the White House from the 1870s until the Great Depression. Yeah, the Democrats were explicitly on the losing side of the Civil War. It took a long time for them to be considered a respectable national party after that.
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Crowsbeak posted:Wait, Master Levin actually reconsidered what he said? Is the world ending? No I mean he added a dramatic pause as if he thought what he had said was a tremendous revelation, that one guy would have won, were it not for the other 3 guys running.
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Goatman Sacks posted:Back to the topic of the thread; Master Shake was ranting about yesterdays results, and the best part was that he stated that Cruz would have had a good night last night, if it weren't for Rubio, Kasich, and Drumpf. It was pretty classic. He spent a good while ranting about how Trump is a liberal who wants to rule with a DICTATORIAL IRON FIST because he wants to make deals with people in congress to get things done. Then he turned around and said he liked Ted Cruz because Ted Cruz wouldn't make deals. Isn't being an intransigent rear end in a top hat the kind of a thing dictators who rule with iron fists do? In his sputtering he also managed to gently caress up a cliche beyond recognition, "All of a sudden deal-making is the realm of the coin!"
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Clean drinking water is just another one of those totally weird things that America is just too darn different to get right. Like healthcare without a profit motive or not jailing an appalling amount of ethnics. So move along now, nothing to do here. Embrace diversity as an excuse to kill the poor and strip mine social services!
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ToxicSlurpee posted:That's one of the cases where there's some disconnect. A lot of the world's top schools are still in America and the tech sector is still very American. I have several friends from the biological sciences who did exactly this, and I'm starting to consider it myself. There is just so much more opportunity in other parts of the world for a scientist and I have zero qualms about abandoning my loans and this festering country.
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Epic High Five posted:Plus Flint residents were paying out the nose for that water. Like $70/mo iirc Yet another hosed up tangent on Flint - Why were they paying so much for water to begin with? Michigan is the epicenter of the largest group of freshwater lakes at least in North America; and I remember from living in Midland, Traverse City, East Lansing and Grand Rapids that the water bills were pretty low.
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