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And Record accidentally (or "accidentally", who loving knows at this point) published Lula and Dilma's phone numbers. Jesus Christ
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Mar 17, 2016 02:32
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The Unnamed One posted:And Record accidentally (or "accidentally", who loving knows at this point) published Lula and Dilma's phone numbers.  
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Mar 17, 2016 02:48
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Protests are already dispersing, but sources say it had at least 20K in Brasilia, maybe 10K people in Paulista, and overall big protests in all capitals. All with barely no organization, called from social networks in a matter of hours. And tomorrow a big one is being called at 10 AM in Brasilia at the time of Lula's nomination
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Mar 17, 2016 02:52
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Elias_Maluco posted:Protests are already dispersing, but sources say it had at least 20K in Brasilia, maybe 10K people in Paulista, and overall big protests in all capitals. All with barely no organization, called from social networks in a matter of hours. Brasília, São Paulo, São Bernardo do Campo, Rio de Janeiro, Campo Grande and Belo Horizonte are not the capitals of every state. It is still a lot of people, but let's not throw truth to the wind.
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Mar 17, 2016 03:01
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ZearothK posted:Brasília, São Paulo, São Bernardo do Campo, Rio de Janeiro, Campo Grande and Belo Horizonte are not the capitals of every state. It is still a lot of people, but let's not throw truth to the wind. A lot of people in Porto Alegre too, tho.
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Mar 17, 2016 03:02
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Things are getting really ugly. Pretty much both sides decided to go all in. Moro's decision to release the calls (which involved nothing actually illegal) and Lula's nomination as minister essentially show that any semblance of due process is not part of any considerations.
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Mar 17, 2016 03:05
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Dias posted:A lot of people in Porto Alegre too, tho. Even Manaus https://twitter.com/ruylobo/status/710259708989480960 Lots of noise right now, but from what I've read in twitter, there were protests in most if not all major capitals. But I guess we will only know of sure tomorrow
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Mar 17, 2016 03:13
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Huge loving noise here in Fortaleza, there was going to be a counter-march supporting Lula but dunno if they will even try to pull it off.
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Mar 17, 2016 03:25
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Hello friends, romans, countrymen I believe we are hosed either way for the short while Other goons: please send refugee program details from your respective countries TIA
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Mar 17, 2016 03:33
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If Bolsonaro somehow becomes president or vice-president, I'll assassinate him. I don't even care about the neoDOPS reading this crap post, I'll loving put a bullet in his head before he even accepts the nomination.
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Mar 17, 2016 04:13
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hold me please
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Mar 17, 2016 04:17
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At this point, I am fairly certain that the outcome of this entire thing will be some extra-legal, if not outright illegal, event. No one is even pretending to try to follow the law anymore (including Moro, who released wiretaps conducted after they were ordered to stop, and were therefore illegal). Essentially, whoever can come up with the "solution" to save the bulk of PMDB will end in power, which is the saddest irony of it all.
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Mar 17, 2016 04:50
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One of the better things about these manifestations are all of the montages with the silly "Fora Dilma" dance. Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2z2MkH-1A0
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Mar 17, 2016 05:14
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poo poo hit the fan way loving faster and harder than i thought there is also the PT counter-protest this friday brace yourselves 
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Mar 17, 2016 05:28
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Thanks for the updates Brasileiro-goons, it's interesting to follow this as it hasn't got a whole lot of traction in international headlines. This is looking a really poo poo year for the Latin American left wing governments...
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Mar 17, 2016 05:52
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So when are they going to cancel the olympics?
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Mar 17, 2016 06:07
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AllanGordon posted:So when are they going to cancel the olympics? Only when Rio is burned to the ground. Which may not take that long actually.
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Mar 17, 2016 06:13
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This may be the end of Moro's career, actually. At least as a judge. If he gets retired from his job it would clear his path to run for president in 2018 so maybe that's his plan?
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Mar 17, 2016 10:59
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The Unnamed One posted:And Record accidentally (or "accidentally", who loving knows at this point) published Lula and Dilma's phone numbers. https://twitter.com/wandson/status/710397422732754944 This whole thing is such a depressing mess.
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Mar 17, 2016 11:37
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Some friendly information: Winter is just about ending here in Scandinavia, tickets are about 13.000R$ Might I suggest Colombia as an alternative? Because Brazil, they seem less crazy than you now 
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Mar 17, 2016 11:46
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Some friendly information: Nah, Brazil will be alright. The political crisis is serious in the sense that it will probably change the political landscape a lot next elections, not in the sense of an impending coup.
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Mar 17, 2016 11:49
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Seems crazy that Moro would do something so petty that so thoroughly undermines his own credibility, impartiality (already pretty damaged) and opens him up for action against him. I read the lawyer that authored the Collor impeachment claim that even treason charges could be levelled. I guess it's the same arrogance as all the corrupt assholes on the anti-pt side, that the press will shield them from any scrutiny.
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Mar 17, 2016 13:03
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hoiyes posted:Seems crazy that Moro would do something so petty that so thoroughly undermines his own credibility, impartiality (already pretty damaged) and opens him up for action against him. I read the lawyer that authored the Collor impeachment claim that even treason charges could be levelled. I guess it's the same arrogance as all the corrupt assholes on the anti-pt side, that the press will shield them from any scrutiny. Another judge thinking he's above the law because he's been made into a meme.
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Mar 17, 2016 13:11
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Dias posted:One of the better things about these manifestations are all of the montages with the silly "Fora Dilma" dance. Like this one: This is the best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdic1hbpiHQ
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Mar 17, 2016 13:32
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The press WILL shield him from scrutiny if Dilma charges him and if he is charged after she renounces i bet my rear end the PMDB would bail him out
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Mar 17, 2016 14:03
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I wouldn't be surprised if that is part of his calculus. Because I feel things would go bad very quickly if he is suspended or removed from the case. I mean, not only did he release tapes that were recorded after the legal authorization to do so had been revoked, but also tapes that involved Lula and his attorney talking defense strategy. Meanwhile, a young couple was beaten up because they said "no" when people started shouting "fora Lula" around them (which they did because the couple had a red bike and "looked like petistas"): https://www.facebook.com/warleyalves123/videos/513311992173898/
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Mar 17, 2016 14:25
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Even if Dilma gets impeached, I don't think anything will actually change until there's a major political reform, and I don't think that specifically will be the catalyst for an actual reform.
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Mar 17, 2016 15:36
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Of course not. The biggest winners of this whole thing are the party with the greatest number of people involved in the scandal in the first place: PMDB. Essentially, whoever wins between PT and PSDB will only do so by guaranteeing the freedom of the greatest number of PMDBistas. If Dilma falls tomorrow, you can bet that Temer's, Calheiro's and Cunha's dirt will be forgotten in the name of national unity or whatever.
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Mar 17, 2016 15:48
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Who are the PMDB's voters? I had heard that PMDB was essentially built on clientelism in the Northeast but I wasn't sure if that was still the case.
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Mar 17, 2016 15:50
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Lula's nomination just got suspended https://twitter.com/JotaInfo/status/710476059909754880
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Mar 17, 2016 15:57
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:
you might be speaking too soon about that. "Colombia’s left fears political extermination following 29 murders in 2 weeks" http://colombiareports.com/29-leftist-leaders-killed-2-weeks-colombia/
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Mar 17, 2016 16:06
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Badger of Basra posted:Who are the PMDB's voters? I had heard that PMDB was essentially built on clientelism in the Northeast but I wasn't sure if that was still the case. Not true. PMDB was formerly "MDB" (Movimento Democrático Brasileiro = Brazilian Democratic Movement) and the only "legal" opposition allowed by the military dictatorship. Because of that and other things that I can expand upon if necessary, it inherited a massive ready-to-go political machine during the democratization process, managing to obtain an ample number of legislative and executive offices nationwide. It has been, ever since, the largest voting bloc in our Congress and has the largest number of State governments. As it is, it has a huge, broad voting base, from historic liberal opposition in the South (who kept supporting the party even though it is a loving frankenstein by this point), to Southeastern public bureaucracy, to the coronéis everywhere that used the party as a means of power projection in the government (Sarney is the greatest example).
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Mar 17, 2016 16:10
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Brasil should follow the example of their ever more wise European neighbours who now ready themselves to kiss the ring next week.
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Mar 17, 2016 16:14
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Transmetropolitan posted:Not true. PMDB was formerly "MDB" (Movimento Democrático Brasileiro = Brazilian Democratic Movement) and the only "legal" opposition allowed by the military dictatorship. Because of that and other things that I can expand upon if necessary, it inherited a massive ready-to-go political machine during the democratization process, managing to obtain an ample number of legislative and executive offices nationwide. It has been, ever since, the largest voting bloc in our Congress and has the largest number of State governments. Yeah, PMDB is essentially "people from the dictatorship and their successors" and are pretty much a cancer festering in the republic thanks to their established connections.
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Mar 17, 2016 16:23
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Mar 17, 2016 16:54
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https://twitter.com/globomente/status/710488367042043904 guy who cancelled lula's nomination this is good
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Mar 17, 2016 16:58
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Elias_Maluco posted:Lula's nomination just got suspended Dilma you're so loving stupid. Also, no, the answer is to run far, far away from this continent altogether, not to Colombia.
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Mar 17, 2016 17:01
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Pretty fun how the police is so passive about these protests. a few dozen patriotic citizens closing part of Paulista Avenue the entire morning is just fine. Now if it was a few thousand students closing the same Avenue to protest against the transport fares, and you didn't give the police the exact route you planned to follow, you were hosed. Apartidarism 
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Mar 17, 2016 17:04
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So we're heading to a Dredd-like future, right? Is Karl Urban up for playing Moro wearing a helmet?
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