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LCDs do it the same way CRTs do, the only difference is the pixel is still powered until the next update. This is starting to change with screens that have global update where every pixel is updated at once.
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Jesus christ i didnt mean to start a dimwitted debate about picture quality and frame rates where historically nobody agrees on anything
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Mar 17, 2016 01:50
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thathonkey posted:Jesus christ i didnt mean to start a dimwitted debate about picture quality and frame rates where historically nobody agrees on anything Sometimes we can't control where our actions take us
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Mar 17, 2016 02:05
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Pretty sure The Hobbit is garbage at any framerate.
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Mar 17, 2016 02:08
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Been a few pages, but I can confirm as a dude that fixes old arcade machines for a living that the proper way to discharge a crt is "gently caress it, stick a screwdriver in there." I use a alligator clip soldered to a big flathead.
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Mar 17, 2016 02:49
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people who want to watch films at 60fps have had their brains rotted by bideo games, hth
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Mar 17, 2016 13:27
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The Time Dissolver posted:people who want to watch films at 60fps have had their brains rotted by bideo games, hth ok, grandpa. Did you also get upset when they began to display each frame multiple times and the movies stopped flickering?
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Mar 17, 2016 13:30
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Pretty sure The Hobbit is garbage at any framerate.  I've never even seen the 3rd one because the first 2 were so bad. Generic as gently caress action movies with Middle-Earth overlays. And I think the LotR movies were friggin awesome so my bar is set pretty low. del Toro leaving was the worst thing that happened to those movies.
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Mar 17, 2016 13:30
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Sten Freak posted:Psuedo related refresh rates on CRTs below a certain #, I think 60hz or lower, would basically flicker for me. I could glance at a monitor and tell it was set below 75hz. It always weirded me out that it bothered me but not the people around me. Also I guess LCDs refresh in a different manner because 60hz on an LCD is fine. Anyone else have a problem viewing low refresh rates on CRTs? Basically everyone does, yeah (because of how CRTs work, as someone else explained). Hence why back in the day us Linux-users had to hand-tune our modelines in the X11 config file to up the refresh rate to at least 70Hz or get a headache.
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Mar 17, 2016 14:32
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feedmegin posted:Basically everyone does, yeah (because of how CRTs work, as someone else explained). Hence why back in the day us Linux-users had to hand-tune our modelines in the X11 config file to up the refresh rate to at least 70Hz or get a headache. 60Hz never seemed to bother me, and I spent hours staring at CRTs that all seemed to max out at 60-65Hz.
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Mar 17, 2016 14:38
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The Time Dissolver posted:people who want to watch films at 60fps have had their brains rotted by bideo games, hth
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Mar 17, 2016 15:43
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How many frames per second do our eyes see at? Because I want double that so that everything looks twice as good.
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Mar 17, 2016 17:46
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You only have two eyes anyway!
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Mar 17, 2016 17:51
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Seeing real-life video that is intended to document reality does seem to do well on 60 fps. So you can see all the little details in how ceratin objects respond to touch in a more realistic manner. For science and learning and stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaeVsVh1CRc&vq=vq=hd1080#60fps 
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Mar 17, 2016 18:04
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a starwar betamax posted:How many frames per second do our eyes see at? Because I want double that so that everything looks twice as good. You would need at least 4x that speed, because you have 2 eyes and that splits the speed
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Mar 17, 2016 18:23
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If I have glasses, do I need more?
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Mar 17, 2016 18:25
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TVs are: internet, computers and also relics now so is this a TV chat safe space?
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Mar 17, 2016 18:36
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If you turn on frame interpolation on my TV, you're my sworn enemy and I'll destroy you.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:38
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Cojawfee posted:If I have glasses, do I need more? Nah that's constant frame interpolation strapped to your head, best way to experience a movie will be taking them off and enjoying the film in its true intended blurriness.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:55
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Negrostrike posted:If you turn on frame interpolation on my TV, you're my sworn enemy and I'll destroy you. With good cinematography 24fps action scenes can look nice and coherent. Not sure how they manage it, but it can work. The HFR in The Hobbit films made things look cheap. Didn't help that a lot of the CGI looked rushed and unfinished. Examples being the barrel rafting, and Legolas sometimes looking like he belonged in a Playstation game. The whole thing was a mess from beginning to end. A 300 page book doesn't need to be a trilogy.
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Mar 17, 2016 21:06
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powerofrecall posted:High frame rate has basically been tainted by cheap soap operas and camcorders. People have these two very prevalent points of reference about what footage looks like, so when a TV upconverts a movie to 48fps or higher of course it's gonna look kinda gnarly when a movie doesn't look like "a movie." Nah, with the Hobbit it was clearly seeing how fake the ears and feet looked. With the lower FPS the stuff passes by the uncanny valley sniff-test or something. They didn't move right, it just looked like people doing dress-up. Messed with my 'suspension of disbelief', yadda yadda. Maybe I'm also annoyed because the Hobbit trilogy sucked so goddamn hard. That didn't help.
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Mar 17, 2016 23:33
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Through the first 40 pages and no mention yet, but fuckin' Rocket Jockey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZIWbfOkw34
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Mar 18, 2016 00:10
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Did they even bother doing Hobbit 2 and 3 after the garbage of the first?
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Mar 18, 2016 00:40
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Through the first 40 pages and no mention yet, but fuckin' Rocket Jockey. holy gently caress I loved this when I was a kid, is there a version that works with modern computers?
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Mar 18, 2016 00:41
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Jesus Christ posted:Did they even bother doing Hobbit 2 and 3 after the garbage of the first? no, they just re-released the first movie two times and nobody bothered to check up on that since nobody paid to wathc that crap.
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Mar 18, 2016 00:41
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I had to watch the third to find out how the romantic subplot between an elf and a dwarf that absolutely no one asked for would be resolved.
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Mar 18, 2016 00:58
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Jesus Christ posted:holy gently caress I loved this when I was a kid, is there a version that works with modern computers? There was a thread on GOG.com about it https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/rocket_jockey Someone in there had an installer that helped configure it for win7 but I haven't tried it.
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a starwar betamax posted:How many frames per second do our eyes see at? Because I want double that so that everything looks twice as good. According to console peasants worldwide it is 30 fps.
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Mar 18, 2016 09:15
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Cojawfee posted:My samsung from 2012 works fine to me. There were some issues at the beginning where Netflix wouldn't load things but eventually that got sorted. lol speaking of Samsung TVs: We got a new Samsung smart tv for my family last year and the software was so hosed up on it that my brother had to side load Netflix from a USB just to get it working FUTURE The interface also sucks.
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Mar 18, 2016 10:03
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error1 posted:You only have two eyes anyway! My brother also unironically said "we've only got two ears anyway" when I tried to set up the surround sound 
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Mar 18, 2016 10:04
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I limit my framerate on the PC (with a $300 graphics card nonetheless) to 30 FPS on purpose. Saves power, keeps the temperatures/noise down, and doesn't make a heck of a difference for the game. What now nerds? Framerates that are unstable and jump all over the place are a lot worse anyways. Your brain isn't a camera that captures every frame with perfect clarity anyways, but basically barely makes the cut putting all of it together into one coherent stream and cheats a lot along the way to make it work. All this talk about framerate-crap and milisecond-delay-is-ruining-my-tf2-killratio is like audio voodoo and just like audio voodoo there's an industry behind it which has a hard time really bringing genuinely revolutionary things to the table making major bank off gullible people which get their egos stroked by telling them they have some special sensibilities no person has.
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Mar 18, 2016 10:46
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I need at least 60fps to browse the forums
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Mar 18, 2016 11:01
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How did 60 become the Good Number For Good Gamers in the first place?
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Ema Nymton posted:Seeing real-life video that is intended to document reality does seem to do well on 60 fps. So you can see all the little details in how ceratin objects respond to touch in a more realistic manner. For science and learning and stuff. I was eating cottage cheese god drat it.
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sinking belle posted:How did 60 become the Good Number For Good Gamers in the first place? Blame the NTSC standard and the USA's AC being 60 Hz. It does not really have any bearing on how things are now and is basically a legacy thing.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:My brother also unironically said "we've only got two ears anyway" when I tried to set up the surround sound He's right though. And surround sound sucks, at least surround sound of the 5.1 variety. I'm sure the one person in the sweet spot enjoys it though.
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Germstore posted:He's right though. And surround sound sucks, at least surround sound of the 5.1 variety. I'm sure the one person in the sweet spot enjoys it though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5sAsZyRm_k 
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Quantum of Phallus posted:My brother also unironically said "we've only got two ears anyway" when I tried to set up the surround sound He's right because if you give even the slightest poo poo about sound quality or video quality ou need to step outside and go do something that isnt watching the latest episode of jackass or whatever it is these days
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Police Automaton posted:Blame the NTSC standard and the USA's AC being 60 Hz. It does not really have any bearing on how things are now and is basically a legacy thing. Well, more FPS = better than, and it was a good target when you consider most consoles still struggled to hit 30.
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Even more-is-better tards who get paid to care can't tell the difference between upmixed stereo and discrete 5.1 unless the latter is full of distracting whooshing and rustling sounds in the back speakers, lol
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