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wyoming posted:Yeah, to hell with coherent themes and interesting characters. That post was in response to someone saying "When wondering whether 8+9 will have flashbacks, keep in mind 1-6 did not use flashbacks." How the heck did you end up way over there? How does a flashback preclude coherency or interesting characters?
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It was a comment on new Star Wars doing things different from old Star Wars.... it's not that difficult to follow.
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Electromax posted:That post was in response to someone saying "When wondering whether 8+9 will have flashbacks, keep in mind 1-6 did not use flashbacks." It obviously doesn't, but Star Wars has the story structure of fairy tales and old norse sagas, which were very simple in terms of among other things having the sequence of events unfold chronologically
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chippocrates posted:I don't know how much flashbacks work for Star Wars. I can't think of any in the OT or PT. Unless it's a force vision like Rey had in VII Leia's "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi" recording is, I think, the only not-Force-vision thing that happens in not-real-time.
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homullus posted:Leia's "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi" recording is, I think, the only not-Force-vision thing that happens in not-real-time. Yoda and Obi-Wan watch a recording of Anakin murderizing kids. I can't recall if we see any snippet of it at all or if it's just a shot of them watching an obscured screen though.
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Rey's force vision is the first quasi flashback in all of Star Wars. And it wasn't a flashback . If they started the next move in a Return of the King opening flashback I think that would work well.
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iSheep posted:I hope that Han Solo just appears in the new movie without any explanation and nobody remembering that he died in the previous. It'll turn out like MGSV where Han Solo reprogrammed the victim of a horrible accident to live out his life with his memories while he gets to ride off into the sunset with a cigar and This was all facilitated by Han's best friend and most loyal servant Chewbacca, who wiped his own memory after to ensure that the secret would be kept until the time was right. Which also explains why Han kept getting excited about the bowcaster. cheese sandwich fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Feb 16, 2016 |
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homullus posted:Leia's "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi" recording is, I think, the only not-Force-vision thing that happens in not-real-time. Yeah, so it's still diegetic. If there was a dream sequence (which Rey's thing kind of was) then it'd also be diegetic because a character is experiencing it. Contrast that with the opening(?) scene of the last Game of Thrones season when we have a flashback without any in-world reason for it. The Hobbit series actually has both diegetic and non-diegetic examples: in the first film, Bilbo is narrating the fall of the Dwarven Kingdom, whereas in the second film we have a flashback to Thorin and Gandalf meeting without any other context. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5k3X9huWVg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej7GFcOmqC4
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euphronius posted:If they started the next move in a
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This would - in fact - owen real hard
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euphronius posted:This would - in fact - owen real hard I'm pretty sure at least one of the original drafts of TFA had a montage of the saber making its way to Maz. I recall a scene described as a warlord riding some giant creature into a battle using it. I wouldnt be surprised if something like that showed up in the next 2 movies.
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Jerkface posted:I'm pretty sure at least one of the original drafts of TFA had a montage of the saber making its way to Maz. I recall a scene described as a warlord riding some giant creature into a battle using it. It never happens. Empire Strikes Back way back had a Darth Vader with ***PET DRAGONS*** on his metal as hell home planet that was covered entirely in lava except for a singular glimmering building that was his home. What could have been. 
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Neo Rasa posted:It never happens. Empire Strikes Back way back had a Darth Vader with ***PET DRAGONS*** on his metal as hell home planet that was covered entirely in lava except for a singular glimmering building that was his home. What could have been. Darth Conan of Mars 
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Neo Rasa posted:It never happens. Empire Strikes Back way back had a Darth Vader with ***PET DRAGONS*** on his metal as hell home planet that was covered entirely in lava except for a singular glimmering building that was his home. What could have been. They actually did consider using that version Vader's castle in TFA for a little while. The design for it eventually became Maz's castle in the film. I wouldn't be surprised to some elements of the saber montage appear in other things, but probably heavily modified.
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Jerkface posted:I'm pretty sure at least one of the original drafts of TFA had a montage of the saber making its way to Maz. I recall a scene described as a warlord riding some giant creature into a battle using it. So, they're turning Anikan's lightsaber into the Glove of Darth Vader?
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wyoming posted:So, they're turning Anikan's lightsaber into the Glove of Darth Vader? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVzc20Bm8Xo
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So who's Laura Dern going to be playing? Ahsoka Tano?
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Chill Penguin posted:So who's Laura Dern going to be playing? Ahsoka Tano? This is a movie I would watch
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Chill Penguin posted:So who's Laura Dern going to be playing? Ahsoka Tano? Not if you're a betting nerd
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Chill Penguin posted:So who's Laura Dern going to be playing? Ahsoka Tano? I would assume Rey's mom.
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Red posted:I would assume Rey's mom. Not British. (Borat voice)
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Chill Penguin posted:Not British. (Borat voice) Maybe her grandfather is.
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Kylo's mama-san
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They've been shooting in Dubrovnik for a few days, but we're now starting to see some of the costumes being used: http://makingstarwars.net/2016/03/new-star-wars-episode-viii-dubrovnik-set-photos-tease-possible-new-police-force/ Edit: Even more, including Finn on a Space Horse: http://makingstarwars.net/2016/03/dubrovnik-star-wars-episode-viii-filming-has-more-space-horse-and-who-was-on-it-pics-and-more/ http://makingstarwars.net/2016/03/tmz-release-a-ton-of-star-wars-episode-viii-set-photos/  Maybe someone can help me, but I swear that Space Horse looks like something from an unused concept art piece I saw back in the day for one of the films. Not sure if it was for the prequels or original trilogy. I've looked around online and no one seems to be bringing it up, so it must be my imagination. Teek fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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Krowley posted:Darth Conan of Mars More like Venus
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Teek posted:They've been shooting in Dubrovnik for a few days, but we're now starting to see some of the costumes being used: The NT is shamelessly just thumbing through McQuarries excellent 70's concept art and just putting it directly on the screen to trick your brain into thinking the movie is awesome.
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I've seen a few people say that these Episode 8 photos remind them of Episode 2 or 3, and it just supports what I read about Rian Johnson being a fan of those movies.
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:The NT is shamelessly just thumbing through McQuarries excellent 70's concept art and just putting it directly on the screen to trick your brain into thinking the movie is awesome.
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Cat Machine posted:There's a pretty funny page or two in the Making of Force Awakens book where they spend a month designing new X-Wings then Abrams basically tells them to pack it up and use McQuarrie's original X-Wing concept art instead because it's a lot better There is not one good original design in TFA. Hmm maybe Ren and his saber. But that's it. I love how the rifle Finn lugs around is basically "generic space laser rifle 1". Awful.
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Wank posted:There is not one good original design in TFA. On all accounts, but that last one has stuck with me since the first photos.
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they went away from the "old ww2 weapons with bits attached" in force awakens. Some of them are neat, like the new stormtrooper guns, but they're basically a callback anyway by the way, does anybody know why there was some much focus on chewbaccas gun, and for what purpose?
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Because it's this giant cannon but he never really used it in the OT. The joke is just "oh holy poo poo this thing is powerful' Don't overthink it.
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I guess to emphasise how powerful Kylo really is to be able to take a shot from it and keep going?
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I guess to emphasise how powerful Kylo really is to be able to take a shot from it and keep going? But also explain why he's weakened in that last fight.
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Jose Oquendo posted:Because it's this giant cannon but he never really used it in the OT. The joke is just "oh holy poo poo this thing is powerful' I need to go back and watch the OT, does Chewie ever fire it? In the Death Star escape in ANH he has a Stormtrooper blaster. Does it fire it at the probe droid in ESB?
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:I need to go back and watch the OT, does Chewie ever fire it? In the Death Star escape in ANH he has a Stormtrooper blaster. Does it fire it at the probe droid in ESB? I'm like 99% positive Han is the only one who shoots at the probe droid, but I don't have the movie in front of me to check.
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:I need to go back and watch the OT, does Chewie ever fire it? In the Death Star escape in ANH he has a Stormtrooper blaster. Does it fire it at the probe droid in ESB? http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bowcaster/Legends quote:Most sources, including Revenge of the Sith, depict bowcasters firing green bolts. However, in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, Chewbacca's weapon fires red bolts implies that he does fire it
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SIR FAT JONY IVES posted:I need to go back and watch the OT, does Chewie ever fire it? In the Death Star escape in ANH he has a Stormtrooper blaster. Does it fire it at the probe droid in ESB? Last time I watched it, the only time I remember him firing it was on Endor at the escaping speeder while Han was busy getting his rear end kicked.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bowcaster/Legends I also seem to remember in my old VHS tapes pre-Special Edition that the bowcaster fired green bolts. This is additionally supported by video games like Dark Forces. I know Chewy fires it on Endor for sure at the initial speeder bike chase scene. I can't remember if he had a rifle or not anymore for ESB and I am fairly certain he fires something in ANH but I forget.
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