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Endorph posted:Realga, Freyja, Ursa, Stardust Same. Good job on kicking Scylla's rear end into next week.
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Realga, Sophie, Stardust, and Tyler Getting past Scylla basically means the rest of the run is smooth sailing, which is great, particularly because of one thing on this floor (if you don't have a certain DLC, that is).
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Zack, Asriel, Tyler, Ranger. Man team will win sooner or later...right?
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Freyja, Sophie, Phoebe and Asriel. I've wondered: What exactly is the meaning of the small phrases that appear when you enter a floor? You know, "The king's roar sounds", and stuff like that. Why are they there?
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They're the names of the floors and a little idea of what you can expect on them. I like 'em.
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theshim posted:They're the names of the floors and a little idea of what you can expect on them. I like 'em. Yeah, they're sorta poetic. I wonder if anyone has a list of all the floor names in the series?
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It's hard to find them online, that's for certain.
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Okay, found the original EO's floor names. F1: The first hope-filled step F2: The verdant in-between F3: Marble orchard of soldiers F4: The depth's black teeth F5: Staring down the roar (Fenrir fought) F6: Dance of the fairies (Stratum 2) F7: Trail of enduring pain F8: The wyvern's nest F9: A labyrinth for monsters F10: The forest's silent king (Cernunos fought) F11: A mysterious cerulean wood (Stratum 3) F12: The insect queen's palace F13: The soldier's washbasin F14: The flood of God's tear F15: Lord of the celestial ocean (Cotrangl fought) F16: The pathless drifting sand (Stratum 4) F17: Doorway into the unknown F18: Nature's boundless horizon F19: An excursion into despair F20: Gold wings for the pilgrims (Iwaopeln fought) F21: A bounty of relics (Lost Shinjuku started, player's mind blown) F22: The steel rendezvous F23: Ghost town out of granted dreams F24: Road of inner sorrow F25: Moment of epiphany (Etreant fought) F26: Beyond the gods' sight (postgame stratum) F27: All that lives shall succumb F28: Explorer's abbatior F29: Half-mad from self-doubt F30: The sentinel of eternity Junpei fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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They're the same for the remake too, so quick check and B18F is Nature's Boundless Horizon
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Crosspeice posted:They're the same for the remake too, so quick check and B18F is Nature's Boundless Horizon Thanks. Edited that in.
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Crosspeice posted:They're the same for the remake too, so quick check and B18F is Nature's Boundless Horizon EO2U actually swaps some floor names around--sometimes because the old names referenced gimmicks that don't apply anymore (there's some in the 4th Stratum and one in the 6th Stratum), and some just got changed around because reasons (11F used to be "A trap of ice and snow" in EO2, and it got changed to "Malice amidst a field of white" in EO2U).
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I'm gonna say Ursa, Nadia, Asriel, and Jackie. It feels like we haven't seen Ursa in forever.
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Yep, did a quick check and every name is the same for the remakes, with two exceptions. B23F is Ghost town of granted dreams and B25F is The moment of epiphany. So yeah, virtually no changes. But we also have Gladsheim, which have their own ones. Area 1 is Ruin of the world's hope. A2 is Wisdom thousand years dormant. A3 is Toward the world's salvation. A4 is Path of heaven's flames. A5 is Where the gentle dream ends. Ah, poetry. But anyway, I realize I didn't vote. It's always good to shake things up and use people that haven't been used in a while, so Ursa, Nadia, Asriel and Realga
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Mar 17, 2016 21:18
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Ursa, Regalia, Sophie, Asriel
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Mar 17, 2016 21:37
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Ursa, Realga, two of Ragnar's choice
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Ursa, Nadia, Freyja, Sophie
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Okay, the original EO2 had: F1: An invitation upward F2: Hazardous habitat F3: Field of mortal peril F4: A soaring shadow above F5: The king's roar sounds F6: Vale of hidden threats F7: The balance of pain and fear F8: Fire-cloaked demons den F9: The unopened crimson jaws F10: The hellion's domain F11: A trap of ice and sorrow F12: Daunting frozen path F13: The heart's Gordian knot F14: Allure of the ice princess F15: Gateway to sorrow Junpei fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Mar 18, 2016 |
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Mar 17, 2016 23:45
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Even without boss names, that is spoilery. Please edit that out.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Even without boss names, that is spoilery. Please edit that out. I spoilered the floors we haven't been to yet.
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Junpei posted:I spoilered the floors we haven't been to yet. I did not say spoiler tag them, I said edit them out. Please.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:I did not say spoiler tag them, I said edit them out. Please. Done. Sorry for misinterpreting your instructions, sir.
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Endorph posted:Realga, Freyja, Ursa, Stardust
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Found 2 games you might you might be interested in. The first is Class of Heroes. It's a lot like Etrian Odyssey: Make a group of adventurers with different classes, explore (randomly generated, so that's new) dungeons, make new equipment out of random drops. It has a race system, like Wizardy or the Exile trilogy, though. Different races have unique skills and stat spreads, and they have "affinity" with other races. If two character's races like each other, they get a stat boost while in the same party. If they don't like each other, they get a debuff. But this can be overcome by having them spend time in the same party, which can negate and even reverse negative affinity. It's an interesting game, and worth playing. It's on the PSP Demon Gaze is my other game, and it's a lot like a hybrid of EO Classic mode and Story mode. Predefined, unique protagonist with unique powers, but recruitable allies with set classes and-get this- races, just like Class of Heroes! There's a story focus, but the main character (Default name Oz) has dialogue choices. Again, assemble team, explore dungeons, bring back loot. Oz's unique power (summoning demon bosses to fight for you) certainly adds a twist to the classic gameplay, and it has a great twist near the end. It's on the PS Vita, though.
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Mar 18, 2016 07:01
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Current vote results are:quote:Ursa: 9 Anyone not listed has no votes.
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Mar 18, 2016 08:48
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Zack, Asriel, Rheine, Jackie My party for Stratum 4 was L/Prot/R Prin/G and things were super smooth sailing.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Dense Syrup is a really important conditional, since it's needed to make Amritas. That condition makes it a serious dick move, since the only non-Grimoire method the Story party has of inflicting Fear is Random Disease.  Not counting Grimoires, the Story party doesn't get access to a much more reliable method until the 5th Stratum. Until then, Proof of Nobility is pretty much their only form of TP recovery.Jackie, Zack, Nadia, Rheine.
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Update 28 Part 2: The Thief and the Mantis   SYSTEM: However, you will not be fooled again. You realize immediately that this is no ordinary guard! You ready your weapons, and the man disguised as a guard darts back to the bushes! SYSTEM: The man swiftly brings some kind of pipe to his mouth... It's the flute that controls the monsters! The sharp trilling echoes through the Labyrinth, and it is shortly answered by the roars of monsters and quaking ground!   SYSTEM: You can scarcely believe your ears... The man intends to set the monsters on the city itself! SYSTEM: You recall that troops are posted to defend against the monsters... but there's no guarantee that they'll make it in time! The outlaw blows the flute once more, and the monsters howl in anger and malice. They turn swiftly, and run towards town. They're mere puppets of this man, but if they are not stopped here, they will advance on the city and wreak havoc on his behalf... You must draw your weapons, and defeat the monsters that this outlaw controls.      Brainwashed Worker HP: 356, STR: 31, TEC: 24, VIT: 26, AGI: 16, LUC: 23 Damage resistances: Disable resistances:   It's an ant with no skills and 356 HP. So threatening. Another ant later...   SYSTEM: The outlaw disappears into the buses, and you hear the flute's trill again from the stairs leading up. Monsters roar in answer...     Positioning myself here means I can just go to where the thief is without fear of the ants reaching Lagaard.    SYSTEM: The thief whips the flute to his mouth, and plays a keening, discordant melody that pains your ears to hear...   SYSTEM: It seems the monster sees you as mere food...it stares with bloodshot eyes, and lets out a gurgle of anticipation. To protect the peace of Lagaard, you must destroy this monster!    Livid Butcher HP: 4071, STR: 41, TEC: 30, VIT: 30, AGI: 27, LUC: 30 Skills:
Disable resistances: A scorpion being controlled by heartless bandits. It is eager to do its master's bidding. Unlike the ants, the Livid Butcher is no joke. It hurts like hell thanks to having 41 STR, and Execution Barb is pretty much guaranteed death if it hits--if not to the damage, then to the instant death. Even Phoebe isn't going to be much help here since the thing will hurt even through Front Guard.  Probably the one time I'll actually get some real mileage out of Shield Protect.     Same setup as always.  Oh crap.   Shield Mastery! While the whole "chance to block physical attacks" thing, on average, reduces damage by the same amount that Shield Mastery used to passively give in earlier games, admit it, it's much more fun to watch this than know your Protector took 15% less damage from an attack.  You'll notice that I'm holding off on Force for now. You might think I'm crazy, or underestimating the enemy like I did with the Snow Swarm, but believe me, this'll be worth it.   I rag on Shield Protect a lot, but for situations like this where an enemy is outputting large amounts of damage even through Front Guard, it's useful enough.   Well, it's about 17.5% of the thing's HP.  As is that.  And Tyler helps, too.  Why not?       I swear to god, Head Pierce is prone to rolling for statistical improbabilities.  Imagine how long this would take without Milly nearly doubling everyone's damage.  Screw it, I'll eat the early penalty, I need this thing dead soon.    Decent, and it put the Livid Butcher in the red.    Jesus loving christ, Phoebe saved Ranger from certain death.      SYSTEM: With that bitter parting shot, the outlaw darts up the stairs.  SYSTEM: ...There must still have been monsters driven mad by the flute's song. Being chased, the thief could not use the flute's song against them, and will likely meet his end at the hands of his own thralls. It would seem the request is complete. SYSTEM: ...However, if you wish to save the outlaw, you can choose to go up the stairs. However, you must be cautious...from the sound of the roar, the monster would be a fearsome foe. You must act quickly. If you go to a different floor, or head back to town, the outlaw's fate is sealed. You can choose to go save the outlaw, or choose to go back to the bar to report. We have an actual choice here: either we fight the monster in the hopes of getting a bigger reward, or we go back to Lagaard and get the original reward. Do I really have to say what I'm doing here?  I'm loathe to do this, but I use an Amrita on Ranger to ensure he'll have TP for the next part. Better to use these things rather than hoard them.   SYSTEM: You follow the monster's gaze, and see the outlaw sprawled and unconscious. His legs are beyond saving... The monster passes a brief glance in your direction, but returns to the fallen thief, fierce eyes locked on him... The monster doesn't seem to take notice of anything other than the thief, and seems not to bear you any ill will. However, if you wish to save the thief, a fight with this monster will be unavoidable... If you are prepared to fight to save the thief, then steel yourselves and confront the monster before him!    Indignant Mantis HP: 8337, STR: 47, TEC: 35, VIT: 36, AGI: 30, LUC: 36 Skills:
Disable resistances: The Indignant Mantis is an even bigger threat than the Livid Butcher, mostly thanks to Charge over there. Thankfully, if you have some Blast Grenades, the thing becomes manageable. In the interest of time and because nothing interesting happens in this fight, I'll just show you:     SYSTEM: It still appears conscious, though... Feebly, it drags itself--scarred and bleeding--towards the thief, little by little. What could be driving this monster forward, even with its injuries...? You follow its gaze to the thief's flute... Could it be that the monster's target was not the thief, but the flute, this whole time? SYSTEM: You take the flute from the thief's hand, and shatter it with a ceramic crunch, ending its song forever. The monster stops, seeing the flute shatter, and gazes at you with peaceful eyes. Its wish granted, it shuffles away into the forest... SYSTEM: As the monster fades from view, you hear a groan of pain from the outlaw. Now awake, he raises his hands in surrender to you.  SYSTEM: At that, the thief quiets down. A guard soon arrives, having heard the preceding chaos, and takes him away.      Ohhhhhhh YESSSSSSSS. But wait, there's more.   Next time: more quests. Maybe a tiny bit of Ginnungagap, I dunno.
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That flute was so powerful that it called in monsters that aren't even native to Lagaard.
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Seems like as good a time as any to call the votes:quote:Ursa: 9 Freyja, Asriel, Ursa, Realga, Sophie. Works for me! Actually just one party member off from the first 1st Stratum party.
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And here you thought it might have been easy, considering it was the first floor and all.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:
I can't help but feel like you're missing a screenshot here, since Tyler doesn't seem to have anything to start the conversation from like that.
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RareAcumen posted:I can't help but feel like you're missing a screenshot here, since Tyler doesn't seem to have anything to start the conversation from like that. Yeah, I am. Dr. Fetus actually pointed it out in a Steam conversation and then I forgot about it.  I'll fix it later, some stuff I need to take care of.
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Update 29: Food and Fakes Monster Fish Panino increases EXP gain from battles by 20%. Kind of a crappy effect, but it's one way to speed up grinding if you don't have the Yggdrasil Clover DLC. Crab Cream Croquette increases all party members' LUC by 10. Unlike the other two foods, this one is really, really good. Having 10 more LUC makes a really serious difference when trying to inflict ailments and binds. Forest Paella recovers 2% of each party member's max TP per turn. I prefer the Walnut Rye Bread, honestly. Apple Sauce Bison Steak disables preemptive attacks and blindsides, aside from scripted encounters, walking into an FOE's back, and an FOE walking into your back. Not a fan of it--in fact, I'd call it "a complete waste of the food slot." You might've noticed that I just cooked all the Western Food 3 foods.  Let's talk to this guy again, because of it. The Hit-Taker Grimoire is pointless, as are these level ups, because...  Meet the new party for the first half of the 4th Stratum. It's honestly decently well-balanced, if a little support-heavy. Then again, Realga'll make sure the enemies will have to work to bring down Ursa, and Freyja has insanely easy setup for Ecstasy now that Sophie's here. As for skill builds, I had Freyja max out Gag and Cuffs just for the extra bind chance and damage. I left Shackles at 7 since leg binds, honestly, just aren't as useful in most situations as head and arm binds are. She also has some points in Phys ATK Up, giving her a 9% boost to her physical damage. No, I'm not investing in Phys ATK Up for the Bait skills, they're really goddamn terrible. Honestly, Freyja's just going to be getting a lot of passives from here on out. Asriel's actives haven't changed at all. All he's done is max out Phys ATK Up, giving him a 15% boost to his physical damage. At level 8, Phys ATK Up unlocked Pre-Initiative, which passively increases damage and accuracy when the user attacks before their target. Aside from level 9 (13% on Pre-Initiative vs. 14% on Phys ATK Up), its scaling is identical to Phys ATK Up. Asriel will probably be taking a Rest before the end of the Stratum, since Horse Slash is starting to drop off in usefulness. Leveling up Protect and Hit-Taker both to 3 unlocks Protection Vow, which decreases all damage the user takes and will automatically shield any party member under 50% HP from any attack for a certain amount of times per turn. At level 7, it reduces all damage by 27%, can protect a maximum of 4 times per turn, loses 12% chance to block per activation, and lasts 5 turns. The important parts about Protection Vow are that: a) The damage reduction applies even if the user isn't actually activating Protection Vow. b) The user can still act fully while under the effects of Protection Vow. This means that, for now, I can just use Protection Vow to cut Ursa's damage and then have her spam Hit-Taker. I had Realga put one more point into Revive, which unlocked High Regen. High Regen places a buff on one party member that restores their HP at the end of the turn, reduces the amount of time they need to naturally recover from ailments/binds, and supposedly reduces the chance of the user being inflicted with ailments/binds, but hell if I can reliably test that. It's a very situational skill--however, it's useful with a Beast. Sophie took a Rest, and I shuffled around her skillset a LOT. Venom Curse was useful for a while, but I want her to actually disable enemies now. We're also at the point where taking the chance on enemies hitting through Blind isn't something I'm comfortable with. Instead, she has maxed out Curse Mastery, 5 points each in the binding Curses (for setting up Ecstasy), 6 points in Torpor Curse (the Sleep Curse, if you forgot), and a maxed out Evil Eye. Evil Eye attempts to inflict Fear on a row of enemies, but more importantly, has its own small skill tree. Each of the Word skills only work on afraid enemies, and will completely override their action for the turn. Shielding Word tells one enemy to tank a certain amount of damage instances at the party for one turn--worthless in boss fights. Conflict Word tells an afraid enemy to attack other enemies--again, useless in boss fights, but a roundabout way of having Sophie contribute to random encounters. Suicide Word is definitely the most useful of the Evil Eye tree. It targets one afraid enemy, and has that enemy attack itself a certain amount of times with a damage boost. It was more useful in EOU since enemy HP totals relative to their auto-attack damage were much lower, but it still has its place in EO2U. Before we get to the main event, Regina has some things to tell us. One more thing. Regina basically told you everything you need to know. The Gourmet King will randomly show up in a certain ward, and whenever he shows up, the ward will buy every type of food, and at basically the maximum amount. I'm really bad at remembering to take advantage of advertising, so we'll see him the next time I remember. Also, our maximum number of campaigns got bumped up again. Same conversation as before. Let's take care of An outing in the forest. From the inn (no screenshot):  SYSTEM: Her voice is shaking slightly. She may be nervous at the unfamiliar surroundings, or scared for her safety--or yours. SYSTEM: At your words, her hesitant smile returns. For the sake of her peace of mind, you should likely proceed more cautiously than usual as you move forward. You sternly repeat this thought in your mind as you start on your path. SYSTEM: You briefly chat with the girl, walking towards your destination: the room with the pure, clean air. SYSTEM: The sparkle in her eyes fades as she drops the subject. Focusing on the task at hand, she seems to be back to her shy self. You agree that now is not the time for chit-chat, and resume your exploration. The nature of the Blue Gel's patrol pattern makes it easy to get a preemptive on. I already posted the Blue Gel's info in update 25, so let's just get a reminder of its stats.  Blue Gel HP: 7197, STR: 39, TEC: 37, VIT: 29, AGI: 22, LUC: 35 Damage resistances: Disable resistances: Let's fight this thing for real. All the Blue Gel will do is either attack us, or cast Elemental Gel. Ursa makes the attacks a non-issue--the real challenge comes from not running out of TP, since this stupid thing halves all physical damage. It's worth noting, by the way, that I had the party consume the LUC +10 food before the fight, to give Freyja and especially Sophie greater chances of inflicting disables. The Blue Gel has less resistance to head binds than arm binds or leg binds, so I'll let Freyja handle it instead of Sophie. Asriel needs to set up Upper Stance. Just making Ursa's job even easier. This Warrior Song Grimoire has served Realga very well. I haven't gotten a chance to actually explain what Creeping Curse does between when Sophie was last in the party and when Dr. Fetus and I started prying EO2U's internals apart. It's actually one of the best Force Boosts in the game: it triples the base chance for any ailment or bind, and is then applied alongside the Curse Mastery (and potentially Curb ATK Up) bonuses. Even against enemies with heavy resistances, a boost that big will make inflicting things incredibly easy. Abdomen Curse, for example, has a 48% base chance at level 5. Curse Mastery is currently leveled up to 10, and provides a 20% boost to base chances. With Creeping Curse, the base chance becomes (.48 * 1.2 * 3.0) = 172% base chance. This doesn't account for any LUC differences, but Sophie has the advantage here thanks to the LUC +10 food. If Sophie had equivalent LUC to the Blue Gel, she'd still have a whopping 43% chance to bind the thing. Two binds down. This'll be fun!  Let's loving go. Horse Slash will be counted as a Fire attack for the purposes of being compared to the Blue Gel's resistances. Easiest tanking job of Ursa's life. Made even easier by this. Okay, can we get a 3-bind Ecstasy this time? Well, it helps. Oh man, watch out, that was over 10% of Ursa's HP! Oh boy, here we go! Everyone repeats their actions from last turn, except for Sophie, who instead uses Black Mist. I also wasn't very specific about Black Mist before. If you've played EO4, you'll probably remember that the Black Mist Burst skill forced all ailments/binds on every enemy to last 1 extra turn. Black Mist in EO2U is literally that exact same skill. It might not sound like much, but believe me, sometimes 1 extra turn is also you need, especially when dealing with Ecstasy. It's...beautiful. And consider that the Blue Gel halves all of Freyja's damage. Accumulative resistance means that the Blue Gel is now immune to arm/leg binds, and has 20% resistance to head binds. I'm instead gonna have Sophie try to inflict Fear on the Gel. drat. Welp. Trance ran out at the same time the head bind did. Freyja's damage is now much less impressive. It's just slightly above Asriel. The arm and leg binds fell off, so now Freyja's basically only damage option are Gag and Cuffs. The thing's nearly dead, but getting there now is gonna be an exercise in frustration. Conflict Word's pretty bad when there's no other monsters in the battle, but it keeps the Blue Gel from acting, so... Ick. If you use Conflict Word on a solo enemy, it just hits itself once. I should've brought some Jars that Realga and Sophie could've just chucked at the thing. Please just let it be over already  Take stock of what happened there: Ursa halved the damage from the first Freezing Fluid instance, and then procced Aegis on the last hit. Oh yeah, Freezing Fluid. Blue Gels use it upon dying, and it deals 300% ranged TEC-based Ice damage to the entire party. Didn't know about that beforehand? Too bad, enjoy your game over. SYSTEM: Her words are heartfelt. She watches you in awe as you gather yourselves back up, her eyes shining. This must be quite a burden on her. With her condition, she must have been frail since birth. SYSTEM: The girl's words are somewhat more confident, and stronger. You resolve to protect her as you continue onward. SYSTEM: The air here is somehow cleaner and fresher than anywhere else in the forest. Just breathing in makes you feel cleansed. It seems the girl is well aware of its refreshing nature. She breathes in deeply, opening her arms wide as she steps slowly forward--slow, clear inhales followed by gentle exhales. You decide to spend some time with the girl here. SYSTEM: Embarrassed, you look down at the girl's hands and find a Flower Pin made from the white clover of the forest. SYSTEM: It isn't common knowledge, but a flower pin made of white clover is used for wishing someone a safe journey. You accept the charm from her. You can say something in return... SYSTEM: The girl is nearly glowing with happiness. The quest is done! All that remains is to take her back to town! The Fortune Necklace is VERY worth our time. It gives +7 LUC to whoever has it equipped--with how EO2U handles its stats, that is an incredibly big boost to a character's chance of inflicting ailments/binds. I immediately put this on Sophie. Isn't it beautiful? With the LUC +10 food and the Fortune Necklace, Sophie actually has 9 more LUC than the 4th Stratum boss, and is only 1 shy of the main story final boss's LUC. High Regen now lasts 5 turns instead of 4. Now that we have the last 3rd Stratum ingredient, let's cook some food. Traditional Kabutoyaki is an...interesting food. The game's description is that "When an enemy is inflicted with sleep, the chance of waking it with an attack has decreased!" This description badly undersells it--this thing makes it so that there's a 75% chance that an asleep enemy won't be woken up when attacked. You still get the 1.5x damage bonus on STR-based attacks, for the record! Snow Egg Oden gives all party members' normal attacks a Fire element for the first turn of a fight. Meh!  Crab Chazuke makes it so that Grimoire Chances have a 40% chance of becoming an Enemy Grimoire Chance. Pointless. Hoo hoo hoo, the Apple Matcha Shaved Ice. If you thought the Traditional Kabutoyaki's description undersold it, the Apple Matcha Shaved Ice's is "When inflicted with blind, the enemy's hit rate will decrease even more!" What it actually means is that blinded enemies have an extra -2000 non-base accuracy penalty applied--basically, blinded enemies have an incredibly tiny, almost 0%, chance of hitting you. Apple Blue Aiyu Jelly increases the range of Therica As and Bs (not Theriaca, that's from previous EOs) to row-target. I'm not the biggest fan of it, since I'm more a "neutralize ailments/binds before they land" kinda guy. Bison Lamian makes it so that, when a party member is inflicted with an ailment/bind, they will recover 25% of their max HP at the end of the turn. Being hit with multiple binds or an ailment + binds does not increase the heal amount. Among all of the terrible foods, this one stands out as especially bad. Horse Bao gives every party member +80% resistance to Sleep. There's a few instances in the game where this is useful--namely Scylla, if you're having issues dealing with Lullaby. Snow Crab Foo Young gives every party member +80% resistance to arm binds. There's not a ton of bosses where this is useful, to be honest. And right about here is where I realized Regina's conversations meant everyone in town has new dialogue about her. This patron's also shown up again.   Dubois starts talking to us about the third Ginnungagap quest, which I took off-screen due to recording issues, as soon as we enter the Grand Duchy. We have to go to the sealed room in Ginnungagap B2F between 7 PM and 6 AM to start this. And his Regina dialogue. One quick rest at the inn later, and we're ready to start A clever ruse. SYSTEM: You can see a large gap in the bushes ahead... likely where the original requester fell through. If the requester's story is true, then there must be a treasure chest just beyond these bushes... There is a crack before you that you may be able to fit through. SYSTEM: When you pass through the gap, you find a small room. Just as reported, there is a treasure chest here! However, exercise caution! If the story is true, then you have no idea what may occur...  Mimic HP: 6890, STR: 39, TEC: 22, VIT: 27, AGI: 37, LUC: 36 Skills:
Disable resistances: Creature that disguises itself as prized objects and devours passers-by. Keep your guard up! Mimics are honestly kind of boring. Their normal attacks hit hard, and Glutton is basically instant death if it connects--then again, it'll miss more often than most skills do with its 60 base accuracy. Love it when the auto-activate for a stance kicks in. Even better! The Mimic has 50% resistance to all binds, so I'll just have Freyja focus on the arm bind while Sophie focuses on the head bind--the important one--and the leg bind. Asriel's going to do nothing but spam Horse Slash until Upper Stance runs out. This is a mistake, as you will see shortly. I should've just casted Warrior Song. Aw gently caress. No bind. drat. Alright, that's Glutton taken care of for now. Look how little damage Ursa takes with Protection Vow. Hee hee, here we-- Oh come on, loving really? Well, Asriel has to set up Upper Stance again. I should've just Black Misted this, since the Mimic now has effectively 20% resistance to head binds. Oh well, that's still almost 1/4 of the thing's HP. Yeah, that was kinda predictable. Realga finally has a chance to cast this thing. Alright, yeah, this isn't working. Even through multiple defense bonuses, that thing hurts. Ugh. At least the thing's at half HP. Switching to Evil Eye. Imagine if I had casted Warrior Song earlier. Sigh. Aaaaaaagh. And now the last bind fell off. Worth a shot. Okay, what. That was...unlikely, to say the least. Timely, too! Getting impatient now. Freyja missing is usually pretty unlikely thanks to her above-average AGI and LUC, plus the fact that Ecstasy doesn't have an accuracy penalty. When it happens, though, UUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH. Well, it's still more than Asriel's doing--around 380 per Horse Slash. Finally! ...Right as the thing's about to die. SYSTEM: This monster must have caught the requester by surprise... You appear to have discovered the truth. You can go back to the bar to report, or you can continue to explore. So, yeah. That's the gimmick of A clever ruse: Mimics. I'll be honest, the only reason I know what chests are Mimics and which are real is just through prior playthroughs. Sometimes the glow effect on treasure chests differs from Mimics and treasure chests, sometimes it doesn't. Their textures might look slightly different, but hell if I can perceive it. I mean, yeah, the Mimic on the right had the FOE "noticed" exclamation point on it when we entered, but that's not reliable for every Mimic here. This is what I was talking about with the glow patterns--the left and center chests are Mimics, while the right one isn't. Piece of junk. This thing has a 30% base chance to inflict Fear on an attacked enemy. Zack and Phoebe are the only ones that can innately use this, and while Phoebe's LUC is middling, Zack's is terrible. As for this room: you can't see any of the chests when entering, and the Mimics and chests are in different parts of the room. So yeah, unless you know the difference in texture, this is guesswork! Don't think we've seen these things yet. Unihorns dispel all buffs and debuffs on the party, while Metopons dispel all buffs and debuffs on enemies. Both of these items ate nerfs in EO2U--in previous games, Unihorns just dispelled debuffs, while Metopons just dispelled buffs. These are Mimics, by the way. There's random encounters in this area, but they're all normal 4F enemies, who are absolutely no trouble now. And finally, one last room, full of Mimics. Except for this. SYSTEM: You may be able to use this key to open sealed doors. If you recall where you found any of these sealed doors previously, you might head there now to test it. For any of you playing along at home: the Yggdrasil Key is needed for two postgame bosses, including a very important one! It's in your best interests to do this quest. In any case, we technically finished the quest once we killed a Mimic, so... Nectar IIs revive a dead party member at 200 HP--a massive nerf from EOU, where they fully restored the revive target's HP. They're still useful, mind you. Phys ATK Up now boosts Freyja's physical damage by 11%. Wow! Asriel now gets 2% extra damage and +100 non-base accuracy if he hits an enemy that hasn't taken its turn yet. Protection Vow now reduces all damage to Ursa by 29% when it's in effect. And, lastly, Torpor Curse now has a 45% base chance to put a row of enemies to sleep (up from 44%). That's all for now. Next time: FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISH (and a bear mauling). ...Ah crap, forgot to screenshot the Slaughter Shield store unlock. In any case: Rea fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Mar 20, 2016 |
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Mar 20, 2016 10:54
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For the mimics, I used the FOE radar and moving around the rooms to figure out which ones were mimics. I think it worked for all but one of the chests.
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Mar 20, 2016 12:11
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Yeah, the Mimic area is supposed to be one big positioning puzzle. You have to stand in a few places to determine which chests are real and which are Mimics from what the FOE radar tells you. The brighter glow just happens to be another way to tell them apart. Also, there are actually quite a few things you can do with Quona when you're escorting her around.
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Mar 20, 2016 19:23
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Dr. Fetus posted:Also, there are actually quite a few things you can do with Quona when you're escorting her around. There are? I only ever found three events; one after the first battle, one after taking something like 15 steps, and one after reaching 14F. I guess I wasn't experimental enough with that quest.
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Mar 20, 2016 23:46
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I'll be that guy (again) and say someone is underselling the virtues of going full aggro. That shield, plus just a single point in Shield Smite, and Bertrand is hitting for around 500~ damage before buffs. About 1000 with buffs and a bash weakness. Plus, he's got enough health and innate tankiness already that the increased weaknesses from the shield honestly don't seem to matter much. Shield the party when needed of course, but a good Shield Bash here and there can really help.
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Mar 21, 2016 11:12
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It seems like this party has some real problems with damage output. Or is that only against bosses with a lot of resists anyway?
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Mar 21, 2016 11:32
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siotle posted:For the mimics, I used the FOE radar and moving around the rooms to figure out which ones were mimics. I think it worked for all but one of the chests. I mean, technically speaking they are Enemies On the Field. Wish I was far enough that I could weigh in on the value of that shield.
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