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Fenn the Fool! posted:Moonsault is also very picky about what side of the opponent it lands on. In many cases you can react to it by taking a tiny step forward and Nash will land harmlessly behind you, open to a big whiff punish. It's only +1 on block too, Nash's only true reversal is super and he has no 3 frame attacks so you can stick out a 3 frame light and the worst you'll catch is a trade. Basically the moral is nothing in SFV is real. You ain't kidding. Basically my big beef with SFV is that the visuals don't really match the actual gameplay and are really deceptive. I mean, most games might have a couple moves here and there with quirky hitboxes or frame data, but a lot of stuff in SFV kind goes against your base instincts. Like... you wouldn't really expect R. Mika's charged drop kick to be +2 on block but well...
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Tell me if this is crazy talk: As Karin, my go-to punishes currently are either a kick or my crMP->stMP confirm combo, depending on distance. Should I be trying to mix in stHP->Kyakku(HK version) for punishes on things with a longer recovery? Or other stHP strings like stHP->V-Trigger->stHP->qcf P->etc? Or is stHP still too slow to use like that?
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Bisse posted:I don't know if you were there in 2007 when the latest noteworthy fighting games to have come out were Melty Blood from '05 and mother loving Capcom Fighting Jam? I was, and it sucked. I remember digging up Breakers Revenge and playing in GGPO because there was just nothing new happening for several years. It was stagnation. I have never understood these arguments. I have a ton to say about it but instead of dropping an essay at you i'm just gonna throw out some bullet points. - Every other genre and type of competitive game doesn't find the need to arbitrarily update itself every few years. You didn't see quake 3 players or starcraft players demanding that more games be released, they just played their game some more before leaving it for a sequel because that's where the money went due to whatever company wanting to promote their new thing. - SF4 coming out actually made fighting games LESS varied because you went from a bare minimum of 4 games with online scenes (capcom game on ggpo, snk game on ggpo, guilty gear, melty blood) to one game with an online scene - online on consoles was a loving mess back in 2008 because the internet wasn't great even before most people using crappy cheap wifi connections and capcoms inability to program severs that run well that lasts to this day. the PC stuff that was out before SF4 was a lot better but playing SF4 online was a completely different and much more stupid game. - On that note, SF4 having way more players doesn't matter at all if you care about actually improving at fighting games. It's much better to play a smaller number of people and actually talk/improve off one another than it is to play an endless legion of ken/seth players that found a gimmick that works well online and do nothing else. If you don't care about improving at fighting games why are you even buying SF4? "fighting games were dead" yet they were still releasing soul calibur and anime brawlers every couple years - This doesn't even mention all the games that didn't have online but had scenes for them, like CVS2, marvel 2, 3D games like tekken and VF or guilty gear - Fighting games being dead before SF4 made tons of money off advertising hype and nostalgia is a giant lie. Blazblue came out like two months after SF4 did, that was a game that was happening regardless of SF4. Same with TVC. Tekken was going strong through "the dark ages" or whatever the gently caress. SNK released one of their best games (samsho 5 special) in like 2005 and the 2002/98 UM games are quite good. Guilty gear was going strong until the year before SF4's release and only stopped for a while because of rights issues. We would've got all the HD-With-Online versions of old capcom games eventually if with less production values because there's no way capcom can avoid re-releasing something forever. The only games that we got because of SF4 were some mortal kombat games that haven't been completely unplayable poo poo like they were previously. If you are someone that didn't have a controller that connected to a PC, had crippling social phobias that made talking to people online to request games impossible, don't like the literally dozen+ games that were available to you at the time and lived in the goddamn arctic so there was no local scene at all then SF4 was a godsend. for everyone else that takes it as some revelation from heaven it was just a game you bought because it was advertised a bunch and either didn't bother or didn't care to see if there's anything else going on in fighting games. Like there's nothing inherently awful about SF4 (besides maybe mashing down-forward and punch being a DP because of the input buffer), but the biggest reason for it's longevity or cultural impact or whatever other vague term is because it was advertised a bunch by capcom and streaming was just starting to kick off around that time so it was the The Big Advertised Fighting Game at the first online viewable fighting game tournaments darealkooky fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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Mar 17, 2016 17:24
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I've only been using stHP against wake up, as an overhead option to mix in once people catch on to crMK.
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Mar 17, 2016 17:25
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Did videogamesNY break street date again?
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Mar 17, 2016 17:27
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is there a UMPS (Unfunny Memes Per Second) chart for these games? skullgirls runs nice but I feel this is a more pressing concern when it comes to comparing the true quality of these games
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Mar 17, 2016 17:28
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deadly_pudding posted:Tell me if this is crazy talk: For most of your combos, crMP->stMP is going to give you a higher damage combo than stHP in the first place. The exceptions are (at least) jump in->normals->tenko juggled into ex tenko, double tenko into ex qcb.P in the corner, and comboing into tenko->shoulder->super. There's maybe others but I'm bad. With v-trigger, if you're punishing something stHP into vtrigger seems ok, but if you have enough time for stHK instead you should start with that. Then if your execution is good you can do stHK->step->stHP->vtrigger stuff Edit: I just realized that if the crMP is a counter hit you can link into stHP. So use that sometimes I guess. Klades fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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Mar 17, 2016 17:43
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darealkooky posted:is there a UMPS (Unfunny Memes Per Second) chart for these games? Nah, because only spergy goons let "memes" interfere with their enjoyment of a game.
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Mar 17, 2016 17:59
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deadly_pudding posted:Tell me if this is crazy talk: I'm p sure you wanna be going with HP starter if you think you can reach. HK Mujin is definitely not how you wanna end though. For meterless I prefer JFL xx LK Mujin because I like the set-up, but the other enders of Orochi, JFL, and V-Skill all have their uses. I like using one meter as much as possible in combos though, so if I was able to land the heavy my go-to would be st.HP xx JFL -> lk.Mujin -> EX.Tenko. The timing on that is a little funny because if you do EX tenko too fast you won't reach your opponent, and if you do it too slow they'll hit the ground.
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Mar 17, 2016 17:59
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What is this from? darealkooky posted:is there a UMPS (Unfunny Memes Per Second) chart for these games? memes are the future, soon we will grade FGs based on the amount of memes it can generate/reference
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Mar 17, 2016 18:09
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Memes, are good
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Ventana posted:What is this from? Pokken, probably. It came out this week. e: Thanks for Karin tips. I'll try to work some of that into my repertoire.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:17
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Would you rather: Listen to 1,000 memes -or- Hear Laura say any one of her lines
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Mar 17, 2016 18:18
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Saint Freak posted:Would you rather: Japanese Laura is OK and her opening makes 100% more sense that way.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:19
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Saint Freak posted:Would you rather: I'll have Laura say 1000 memes, tia
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Mar 17, 2016 18:21
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Man, Laura's EN voice is grating as all gently caress.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:25
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Dias posted:Nah, because only spergy goons let "memes" interfere with their enjoyment of a game. i can't enjoy the great music in skullgirls because ms fortune wont shut the gently caress up about how she wants a cheeseburger, i'm sorry for your deafness but please be considerate of others
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Mar 17, 2016 18:27
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"Boom! That's how you start a fight and finish it quickly!" Laura is actually KOF Leona and uses explosives Her English voice is atrocious
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Mar 17, 2016 18:29
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anyone who isn't yet aware of "darealkooky" well here you are
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Mar 17, 2016 18:29
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NecroMonster posted:anyone who isn't yet aware of "darealkooky" It seems like my first assessment of the situation still holds true.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:30
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apple posted:"Boom! That's how you start a fight and finish it quickly!" Imagine if Leona said booooOOOooom when she stabbed you with a stick of dynamite
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Mar 17, 2016 18:30
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So what's the input lag for v-sync off in the .ini but forced through the driver? I'm gonna assume the first set of results in that chart (v-sync forced on) is forced on in the game and not through the driver.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:38
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who cares v-sync does nothing of value either way
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Mar 17, 2016 18:40
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AnonSpore posted:Imagine if Leona said booooOOOooom when she stabbed you with a stick of dynamite I hope SFV Remix adds boooOOOOooom to at least half her moves
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Mar 17, 2016 18:47
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NecroMonster posted:who cares v-sync does nothing of value either way Does tearing not bother you?
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I care, and gently caress tearing.
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FanaticalMilk posted:Does tearing not bother you? not even in the least little bit
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apple posted:I hope SFV Remix adds boooOOOOooom to at least half her moves And Ding Ding! to the other half.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:48
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i shut off v-sync in everything and it's been at least ten years since i've noticed it in any game i've played
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Mar 17, 2016 18:51
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After years of playing Rose with her faux Italian accent, I was expecting faux Latino accent for Laura but instead we got weird bubbly thing.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:58
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nothing about the way laura sounds is good not the voice, not the dialogue i almost don't get how they could have gotten this so wrong, then i remember that this is capcom
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You're in the minority then, any sort of tearing drives me nuts and I'm glad that my GPU v-sync seems to work well. God I wish I like the gameplay and art of Skullgirls, because so many things about it are great, just not the most important things.
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Speaking of Laura Does anyone know of any japanese players playing Laura, seems most of the top players using her are EU or US I would like to see if their style of play would be any different.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:07
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apple posted:I hope SFV Remix adds boooOOOOooom to at least half her moves Saint Freak posted:And Ding Ding! to the other half. I hope they mix them into her Critical Art. *arm lock* booooOOOOooom! *... *flies toward camera with headlock* Ding! Ding! I also want a dedicated button to make Mika go "RAAAAAINBOOOOOOW"
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deadly_pudding posted:I also want a dedicated button to make Rashid go "RAAAAASHIIIDOOOOOOOO"
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Revelant posted:Speaking of Laura Seems like the japanese players are favoring Mika right now
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darealkooky posted:i can't enjoy the great music in skullgirls because ms fortune wont shut the gently caress up about how she wants a cheeseburger, i'm sorry for your deafness but please be considerate of others That's okay, the music of SG mostly isn't that good. I love the game, but the music isn't that great. It could use a dose of Rashido. Dracula Factory posted:God I wish I like the gameplay and art of Skullgirls, because so many things about it are great, just not the most important things. If you cared about good gameplay, why are you posting in the SF5 thread.
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This is also acceptable. Give us a goofy yelling button, Capcom!
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