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Frionnel posted:Pretty fun how the police is so passive about these protests. a few dozen patriotic citizens closing part of Paulista Avenue the entire morning is just fine. That's why the protesters keep thanking them!
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The police wouldn't bother someone unless they had done something to deserve it. These people are just holding a demonstration in a calm and collected manner. If anything, they should count on the cooperation of the security services.
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Mar 17, 2016 17:25
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I'm loving how this mess is being responded to, much respect.
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Mar 17, 2016 17:58
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Help, i can't tell sarcasm from reality anymore
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Frionnel posted:Help, i can't tell sarcasm from reality anymore House of Cards is getting intense this season.
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Frionnel posted:Help, i can't tell sarcasm from reality anymore We're the butt of a cruel joke.
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Sergio Moro draws parallels to Nixon and Watergate to justify his wiretapping, possibly unaware that the scandal began with illegal wiretapping ordered by Nixon's people. http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2016/03/1750991-moro-defende-legalidade-de-grampo-e-traca-paralelo-entre-dilma-e-nixon.shtml
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Also conveniently skipping the fact that the release of the wiretaps were ordered by the Supreme Court after a legal process, not extrajudicially by a rogue judge.
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hoiyes posted:Also conveniently skipping the fact that the release of the wiretaps were ordered by the Supreme Court after a legal process, not extrajudicially by a rogue judge. IIRC Nixon himself wasn't even wiretapped, he was just forced to disclose his personal recording collection. The wiretapping happened when his associates broke into a DNC committee and installed listening devices. So yeah, really dumb comparison. Edit: forgot to mention the wiretapping was made with FBI support, so scarily similar to what has been done to lula and dilma. nerdz fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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Mar 17, 2016 19:36
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Meanwhile, protesters are still in Paulista Avenue without the cops moving in. Better yet, there's complimentary filet mignon! http://www.valor.com.br/politica/4486600/fiesp-oferece-file-mignon-manifestantes-pro-impeachment-na-paulista
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The Unnamed One posted:Meanwhile, protesters are still in Paulista Avenue without the cops moving in. Better yet, there's complimentary filet mignon! Better than getting Habib's food i guess.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:45
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nerdz posted:IIRC Nixon himself wasn't even wiretapped, he was just forced to disclose his personal recording collection. Yeah, it his own office recordings of his calls, which were released to investigators, and his own office was in control of the release to the public. Brazilian public figures really need to lay off the historical analogies.
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Frionnel posted:Better than getting Habib's food i guess. The biggest outlier of how hosed the inflation is is how the esfihas cost now. Seriously i used to spend only 10 bucks to eat a good bunch of them and now i'm lucky if it doesn't cost 30 now.
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http://noticias.uol.com.br/politica/ultimas-noticias/2016/03/17/camara-aprova-comissao-especial-do-impeachment-com-433-votos.htm Of course Maluf is on the impeachment commission.
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Mar 17, 2016 20:52
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The Cavemen Moroni Torgan, Bolsonaro's son and Marco Feliciano are as well.
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:The Cavemen Moroni Torgan, Bolsonaro's son and Marco Feliciano are as well. They've stopped pretending that this is anything better than a circus.
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We're gonna have Temer as president, Cunha as the de facto vice president, and people pating themselves on the back for ending corruption.
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Mar 17, 2016 22:50
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I hate my stupid country.
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Could be worse, the Ukrainian coup/revolution a couple of years ago involved honest-to-heart Nazis vying for positions of power. Thankfully they were mostly sidelined after the fact. E: they still ended with a corrupt-as-hell dysfunctional parliament, so not great news either way.
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Freezer posted:Could be worse, the Ukrainian coup/revolution a couple of years ago involved honest-to-heart Nazis vying for positions of power. Nazis usually get poo poo done, I see no problem with this
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Mar 17, 2016 23:11
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As an American, I'd like to say that what you all need is some labor flexibility.
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Freezer posted:Could be worse, the Ukrainian coup/revolution a couple of years ago involved honest-to-heart Nazis vying for positions of power. Thankfully they were mostly sidelined after the fact. But...but I thought we were done with the stupid and blatant political coups, I thought Brazil had reached that US of A level of petty politics and behind-the-scenes bullshit! (It can always be worse, tho, we're in an enviable situation even compared to fellow emergent LA countries, nevermind Eastern Europe, South Asia and Africa)
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Someone raised a monarchy flag in front of the palace https://twitter.com/pandrest/status/710589469695610880 We are all crazy
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I keep hearing about people, even friends, getting harassed or attacked for wearing a red shirt or not thinking that Dilma should be impeached, so it's looking pretty bad
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qnqnx posted:Nazis usually get poo poo done, I see no problem with this Dude it would honestly kick rear end if the Integralists actually came back with all this poo poo
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Mar 18, 2016 00:06
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My knee jerk reaction was hopeful to say the least, that this shake-up would be the thing Brasil needed, until I started seeing people on social media starting to ask for a military coup. This isn't what I was hoping for at all.
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People like simple solutions. Authoritarians are pretty good at those.
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Honest Thief posted:My knee jerk reaction was hopeful to say the least, that this shake-up would be the thing Brasil needed, until I started seeing people on social media starting to ask for a military coup. This isn't what I was hoping for at all. See, that's the issue. Brazil is a mess and PT is corrupt, but this "shake-up" could allow worse poo poo to float up to the top. Couple that with not-so-vested political interests driving the protests and an illusion that all that is happening is "spontaneous" and, well...
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:
drat cool logo The Unnamed One posted:People like simple solutions. Authoritarians are pretty good at those. Often, the most simple solution is the better one.
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Frionnel posted:I keep hearing about people, even friends, getting harassed or attacked for wearing a red shirt or not thinking that Dilma should be impeached, so it's looking pretty bad Yeah pretty hosed up and stuff but whatever let's hope that Integralists or fascists take over the country ASAP lol amirite cuz I'm a loving retard.
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Frionnel posted:I keep hearing about people, even friends, getting harassed or attacked for wearing a red shirt or not thinking that Dilma should be impeached, so it's looking pretty bad Yeah, the people I know from São Paulo have been mentioning that stuff. Not much around here, but I have a friend over there who's genuinely afraid of this leading to purges driven by public violence and an eventual civil war. He sort of fantasizes about fighting in a guerrilla, so I hope he's wrong.
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http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2016/03/1751302-alckmin-permitira-protesto-contra-dilma-durante-ato-do-pt-nesta-sexta.shtml So Alckmin (Governor of São Paulo) wants people dead. Bold move, let's see if it pays off. E: nerdz posted:i keep thinking that brazilian people are too pacific and have way too much to lose on a civil war (especially the middle upper class people). but then again, probably so did people in every other country that had a civil war. Hey man, didn't stop paulistas in the thirties The Unnamed One fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Mar 18, 2016 |
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The Unnamed One posted:http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2016/03/1751302-alckmin-permitira-protesto-contra-dilma-durante-ato-do-pt-nesta-sexta.shtml Oh my god, lula's death and civil war starts tomorrow
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