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PupsOfWar posted:really the thing I like most about Ultimate F4 is that sue is a super-scientist too, which makes it feel less like "Reed Richards and his hangers-on" The thing i like least of UFF is Greg Land
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Literally The Worst posted:Is that like at my high school we went to a lot of assemblies where we were shown videos and presentations about how much smarter all of the other countries' kids were than us this was to scare us into doing good on standardized tests
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:lol baylor
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mandatory lesbian posted:kewl im a be a fighter pilot man you're gonna be top gun
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PupsOfWar posted:really the thing I like most about Ultimate F4 is that sue is a super-scientist too, which makes it feel less like "Reed Richards and his hangers-on" I was reading the the very first original ff stories a while back and the misogyny displayed in those books is loving astounding. Stan Lee is a real piece of poo poo.
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Your mom is so fat that a V-22 Osprey wouldn't be able to perform vertical takeoff with her.
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PupsOfWar posted:really the thing I like most about Ultimate F4 is that sue is a super-scientist too, which makes it feel less like "Reed Richards and his hangers-on" Because Ben is supposed to be Reeds childhood friend who is the brawn to Reeds brain
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maybe nobody cares about f4 anymore and "stretchy man," "rock monster," and "i can turn invisible" are not compelling powers, and unless you have some really huge star power and a phenomenal story nobody is going to start to care again.site posted:I was reading the the very first original ff stories a while back and the misogyny displayed in those books is loving astounding. No no, you see, turning invisible is ironic commentary on Sue's place in a misogynistic society, furthermore
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site posted:I was reading the the very first original ff stories a while back and the misogyny displayed in those books is loving astounding. 1960somethin duder And he was an older dude then Not to excuse it just like, product of its time and creators time
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Josh Lyman posted:Your mom is so fat that a V-22 Osprey wouldn't be able to perform vertical takeoff with her. fun fact, the F-35 STVOL version required a complete redesign of the launch paddocks for the baby carriers they were supposed to fly form because the the vert lift thrusters melt them
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Sharkie posted:maybe nobody cares about f4 anymore and "stretchy man," "rock monster," and "i can turn invisible" are not compelling powers, and unless you have some really huge star power and a phenomenal story nobody is going to start to care again. Literaly nobody will ever say that just FYI
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Literally The Worst posted:Because Ben is supposed to be Reeds childhood friend who is the brawn to Reeds brain you can preserve the character dynamic without ben having to be a big ol' dummie who is incapable of following along with anything reed does
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:lol baylor
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Sharkie posted:
it was cool when everyone just decided "gently caress it, Sue is a green lantern now"
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Is the F-35 even still a thing? All I hear about is how it's like the most wasteful defense project of all time.
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PupsOfWar posted:really the thing I like most about Ultimate F4 is that sue is a super-scientist too, which makes it feel less like "Reed Richards and his hangers-on" i think the biggest problem with f4 is ben/thing richards and sue can actually be interesting plot wise because they're scientists and generally having smart people figure poo poo out is good in a story, and johnny adds to things because he's a cocky smart rear end and can be the "oops, I looked before i leaped" part of the story ben/thing is just "i hit things hard" which is pretty much the hulk, only without all the interesting dr. jekyll / mr. hyde stuff that actually makes the hulk interesting
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Literally The Worst posted:Literaly nobody will ever say that just i just did
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PupsOfWar posted:you can preserve the character dynamic without ben having to be a big ol' dummie who is incapable of following along with anything reed does I mean Ben isn't stupid. He's a regular dude It's just that that looks stupid next to "one of the smartest people ever"
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:that was a beautiful sequence i loathe with every fiber of my being baylor and scott drew, also their fans. and the baylor posters in SAS are anne frank fanfic and this dude called spiritius nox and AFF is the better poster
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Josh Lyman posted:Is the F-35 even still a thing? All I hear about is how it's like the most wasteful defense project of all time. well I mean it's a thing that doesn't always catch on fire or explode
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A Winner is Jew posted:i think the biggest problem with f4 is ben/thing Ben is actually more "Jesus Christ I'm an inhuman freak who can't feel things anymore and also I can't loving kill myself" Which is an actual established thing That he's tried and failed because of his superpowers
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Ben Grimm is not a happy man and Reeds guilt over ruining his friends life is an important bit of the dynamic IMO
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:well for a second i thought this post was about the other thing being discussed itt
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:i loathe with every fiber of my being baylor and scott drew, also their fans. and the baylor posters in SAS are anne frank fanfic and this dude called spiritius nox and AFF is the better poster my favorite thing about baylor fans during football season is that they expect everyone to hate Gary Patterson and TCU as much as they do I know a few Baylor alums and they're mostly nice people but I still don't like their school
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A Winner is Jew posted:i think the biggest problem with f4 is ben/thing I mean, ben's gimmicks are that he's a super hard-nosed, blue-collar dude who never, ever gives up on anything regardless of the consequences, which lets him stand out when he's among flightier characters he's not even that good of a strongman compared to other people in the marvel universe, it's really the grit that is his defining characteristic, along with angst at the loss of his human form like, there's stuff with him that you can work with, it's just that he is often out of place in the kind of high-concept science adventures the F4 go on, and ends up waiting around until there's something to punch.
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A Winner is Jew posted:ben/thing is just "i hit things hard" which is pretty much the hulk, only without all the interesting dr. jekyll / mr. hyde stuff that actually makes the hulk interesting he's a working class dude from Brooklyn who got into university on a football scholarship and then his best friend turned him into a big rock monster He's the grounded normal guy
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i like this meem
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PupsOfWar posted:I mean, ben's gimmicks are that he's a super hard-nosed, blue-collar dude who never, ever gives up on anything regardless of the consequences, which lets him stand out when he's among flightier characters My favorite thing is when the torch dies and Ben refuses to grieve until he gets called out to the desert by Thor and Hulk and then he just unloads on them and starts swinging Because he doesn't know any other way to grieve and he'd demolish anything and anyone else
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:total clownshoes they also conveniently forget football existed before 2013
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Yeah, I think Ben can be interesting in that you can take a look at the whole downsides of being superhuman aspect of the universe and tbh he's a good tool storywise to have as a person that Reed can explain the sciencey parts of the story to for the audience. But you can do that and not have him be a complete moron if you put a little bit of effort into it.
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kustomkarkommando posted:he's a working class dude from Brooklyn who got into university on a football scholarship and then his best friend turned him into a big rock monster It also contrasts him with hot headed glory seeking Johnny Storm nicely
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Josh Lyman posted:Is the F-35 even still a thing? All I hear about is how it's like the most wasteful defense project of all time. These F35s will either sit in a hanger, be sold to other countries, or be used as absurdly expensive bomb trucks for our little skirmishes in the Middle East; the F-35 will be worse at this role than A-10s and F-15/16/18s currently doing this now.
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Those 12/5 games are good for at least one upset every tourney
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I would rather read stories about the noble pursuits of a bunch of hyper genius WASPs from powerful families than the story of some schlubby jewish guy struggling to come to terms with being a rock beast
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zoux posted:what happen to baylor they are losing to Yale, despite Rico Gathers posterizing a white boy https://twitter.com/seth_rosenthal/status/710556165185343488
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we should fight terrorism by selling them our flying catastrophe planes and then laugh really hard as they smear themselves all over the landscape at mach 2
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kustomkarkommando posted:I would rather read stories about the noble pursuits of a bunch of hyper genius WASPs from powerful families than the story of some schlubby jewish guy struggling to come to terms with being a rock beast neither of these sound very appealing
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kustomkarkommando posted:the story of some schlubby jewish guy struggling to come to terms with being a rock beast ah, so the new Michael Chabon book is out then?
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