UKMT Long March 2016 - Beware the Iain Duncan Smith of March (am I doing this right?)

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happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

winegums posted:

IT'S QUESTION TIME MOTHERFUCKERS

No Chuckle Brother, no watch.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:35

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tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

winegums posted:

Top Gear's really taking its toll on Matt LeBlanc.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:35

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

TinTower posted:

I mean, him hijacking an anti-EDL demo to do some "same stuff both sides" weak poo poo was not his brightest moment.

last time you posted that people eventually figured out what you were referring to, and your summary isn't great

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:36

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

OwlFancier posted:

It would make a really great euphemism but I've no idea what for.

Vommiting in one of those metal toilets you get on trains or some bars.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:39

Green Wing: Oct 28, 2013; It's the only word they know, but it's such a big word for a tiny creature

LemonDrizzle posted:

tory boys doing tory thangs

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tax-credit-cuts-income-disregard-george-osborne-voted-without-debate-a6931676.html

That whole parliamentary scrutiny thing is just so pass�, don't you think?

There was a debate in a delegated legislation committee. That's how delegated legislation works. There is so much wilful density about what does and doesn't constitute an abuse of procedure on both sides of everything at the moment. Fucks sake.

Edit: didn't realise the thread had moved on that much

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:40

MrL_JaKiri: Sep 23, 2003; A bracing glass of carrot juice!

winegums posted:

Nicky Morgan MP

Conservative education secretary, continuing the important work of Michael "literally important enough to write a forward for the bible" Gove. Genuinely surprised to see a high ranking Tory sacrificed to QT the day after the budget. Expecting questions on the Tories' plan to turn every school into an academy. Not sure how this'll play out in the audience given the public don't really know what an academy is.

Prediction: There will be a teacher in the audience who tears this poo poo to pieces.

She's the one who always seems to be doing a standup routine, right?

Wait that's Liz Truss

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:41

NO FUCK YOU DAD: Oct 23, 2008

She looks like someone face-merged Gideon with Karren Brady.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:42

Cerv: Sep 14, 2004; This is a silly post with little news value.

LemonDrizzle posted:

Courtesy of the Resolution Foundation:

Percentiles are all well and good, but since surveys show most people will fail to accurately estimate where they are on the curve, it'd be nice if these sorts of charts also labelled the � boundaries on them.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:42

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

jabby posted:

How was he trying to wreck their protest though? If he is telling the truth about his sign it sounds like he was trying to show solidarity.

Going to an anti-EDL demo in Tower Hamlets with a placard saying "No to the EDL and far-right Islamists; oppose all hate" is like going to Reclaim the Night and saying "No to rape and misandry: oppose all sexism".

Tactless at best, derailing at worst.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:55

Kegluneq: Feb 18, 2011; Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

TinTower posted:

derailing

Yup. Why are we even talking about Tatchell again?

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:04

Mega Comrade: Apr 22, 2004; Listen buddy, we all got problems!

TinTower posted:

Going to an anti-EDL demo in Tower Hamlets with a placard saying "No to the EDL and far-right Islamists; oppose all hate" is like going to Reclaim the Night and saying "No to rape and misandry: oppose all sexism".

Tactless at best, derailing at worst.

What a monster

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:05

XMNN: Apr 26, 2008; I am incredibly stupid

bring back pissflaps

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:05

JoylessJester: Sep 13, 2012

TinTower posted:

Going to an anti-EDL demo in Tower Hamlets with a placard saying "No to the EDL and far-right Islamists; oppose all hate" is like going to Reclaim the Night and saying "No to rape and misandry: oppose all sexism".

Tactless at best, derailing at worst.

yeah but misandry is mostly made up internet bollocks but far right Islamists kill gay people all the time??

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:06

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

She looks like someone face-merged Gideon with Karren Brady.

if that photo is recent shes lost loads of weight so clearly on the gideon diet.

tintower weren't you recently banned from some lib dem event for threatening someone?

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:07

GaussianCopula: Jun 5, 2011; Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.

TinTower posted:

Going to an anti-EDL demo in Tower Hamlets with a placard saying "No to the EDL and far-right Islamists; oppose all hate" is like going to Reclaim the Night and saying "No to rape and misandry: oppose all sexism".

Tactless at best, derailing at worst.

How many people has the EDL killed and how many have been killed by far-right Islamists? Why is opposing all hate bad?

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:10

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

GaussianCopula posted:

How many people has the EDL killed and how many have been killed by far-right Islamists? Why is opposing all hate bad?

I dunno, no Muslim ever set off nail bombs in gay bars.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:15

TomViolence: Feb 19, 2013; PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

This argument threatens to turn toxic at a moment's notice and it's idiotic to contribute to it, but there have been attempted islamic terror attacks targeting gay bars and clubs.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:24

NO FUCK YOU DAD: Oct 23, 2008

GaussianCopula posted:

How many people has the EDL killed and how many have been killed by far-right Islamists? Why is opposing all hate bad?

That's a false equivalency, there's plenty of far-right Islamist groups that haven't killed anyone either.

EDL members were falling over themselves to praise Anders Breivik when he massacred children in the name of the white race.

Edit: There's also this arsehole, who came about as close as you can get to killing someone while still being a total failure at it.

NO FUCK YOU DAD fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Mar 17, 2016

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:26

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

She looks like someone face-merged Gideon with Karren Brady.

She looks like Betsy Brandt to me.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:27

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

TomViolence posted:

This argument threatens to turn toxic at a moment's notice and it's idiotic to contribute to it, but there have been attempted islamic terror attacks targeting gay bars and clubs.

Only attempted though, which so far puts them behind a lone paranoid neo-nazi who believed that the Flintstones were trying to turn him gay.

I'm not sure what this says about either.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:30

Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

@tapwaterchat: Don't worry, I'm sure the Tories will set up a Flint, Michigan situation soon.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:31

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

TinTower posted:

Going to an anti-EDL demo in Tower Hamlets with a placard saying "No to the EDL and far-right Islamists; oppose all hate" is like going to Reclaim the Night and saying "No to rape and misandry: oppose all sexism".

Tactless at best, derailing at worst.

Not really, because Muslims and LGBT are both minority groups deserving of support and able to show solidarity to one another. You obviously can't say the same for feminists and 'men's rights advocates'.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:32

NO FUCK YOU DAD: Oct 23, 2008

jabby posted:

Not really, because Muslims and LGBT are both minority groups deserving of support and able to show solidarity to one another. You obviously can't say the same for feminists and 'men's rights advocates'.

Actually, I can completely see Reclaim the Night being on board with anti-misandry signs, seeing as public attitudes to female-on-male domestic abuse is absolutely a feminist issue and the Reclaim the Night protests were set up to oppose sexual and domestic violence in all forms.

I know I'm being pedantic but I think it's important to always point out that feminists aren't just about looking out for women and letting men fend for themselves.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:38

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

winegums posted:

Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh MP

SNP's trade and industry spokesperson. Don't know much about her, well lets see what wikipedia sa-

She sounds kinda terrible and probably would've joined New Labour if she was around at the right time.

Funny you should say that

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/792414.stm

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:41

Zeppelin Insanity: Oct 28, 2009; Wahnsinn
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I don't get giving a miniscule tax cut to the very richest. What rich person is going to give a quarter of a poo poo about 250 pounds yearly? Scrooge McDuck might, but real (very rich) people wouldn't even notice.

I suppose it's the principle.

In other budget-related news, by god I cannot wait for the massive housing crash the UK will inevitably experience at some point.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:42

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

Actually, I can completely see Reclaim the Night being on board with anti-misandry signs, seeing as public attitudes to female-on-male domestic abuse is absolutely a feminist issue and the Reclaim the Night protests were set up to oppose sexual and domestic violence in all forms.

I know I'm being pedantic but I think it's important to always point out that feminists aren't just about looking out for women and letting men fend for themselves.

I suppose it depends whether they showed up with a sign of solidarity like "gender roles harm everyone - male victims speak out" or whether they were pulling some "misandry is the same as misogyny" false equivalence.

And I notice that misandry is now in my browser spellcheck, which it wasn't before. Another blow against the matriarchy. :reject:

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:44

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Zeppelin Insanity posted:

What rich person is going to give a quarter of a poo poo about 250 pounds yearly? Scrooge McDuck might, but real (very rich) people wouldn't even notice.

They would though.

Look at Myleen Klass going off like a radgy prat about the mansion tax, coincidentally right after she bought a 3 million pound house.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:47

jre: Sep 2, 2011; To the cloud ?

Zeppelin Insanity posted:

I don't get giving a miniscule tax cut to the very richest. What rich person is going to give a quarter of a poo poo about 250 pounds yearly? Scrooge McDuck might, but real (very rich) people wouldn't even notice.

I think the super rich are going to be much more excited about the 8% cut in capital gains tax

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:51

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

And the cut in corporation tax. Which is going to balance the budget by streamlining the flow of profits to the capital class.

Meanwhile disability cuts will keep money out of the hands of people that didn't work for it.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:54

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

And the cut in corporation tax. Which is going to balance the budget by streamlining the flow of profits to the capital class.

Meanwhile disability cuts will keep money out of the hands of people that didn't work for it.

It's depressing how few people would actually understand the irony in that.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:58

LemonDrizzle: Mar 28, 2012; neoliberal shithead

From the Times:

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:01

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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

Actually, I can completely see Reclaim the Night being on board with anti-misandry signs, seeing as public attitudes to female-on-male domestic abuse is absolutely a feminist issue and the Reclaim the Night protests were set up to oppose sexual and domestic violence in all forms.

I know I'm being pedantic but I think it's important to always point out that feminists aren't just about looking out for women and letting men fend for themselves.

'Misandry' is a word that's thrown around to pretend that men face the same (or worse!!) systemic prejudice and abuse in society that women do. It's almost exclusively used in a 'we're all equal now so men are the real victims' or 'evil feminists hate men' senses, as a way of undermining any criticism or work that feminism is doing - including the aspects that directly help men, like the things you're talking about. So I really wouldn't be surprised if people with MISANDRY!!! signs get told to do one

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:05

StoneOfShame: Jul 28, 2013; This is the best kitchen ever.

I will only watch QT when it features Will Self as he is the best and watching him be patronizing towards anyone less intelligent than him (almost everyone in any audience and panel) is a thing of beauty.

Can we ban student politics its the loving worst.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:07

NO FUCK YOU DAD: Oct 23, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

It's depressing how few people would actually understand the irony in that.

It's amazing what you can get away with when your mates in the media have everyone convinced that a quarter of all benefit claims are fraudulent.

That's from 2013 - my anecdotal experience of what the public thinks would put that figure closer to or maybe even over half.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:07

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I mean just in general, the idea that people who are rich worked to earn it, or someone they're related to worked to earn it and that's just as good, is so ingrained.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:09

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

LemonDrizzle posted:

From the Times:

its.happening.gif

I'm looking forward to the tories reaching single digit popularity and still winning due to scotland and gerrymandering then having five more years of getting eaten alive and reaching sub-Major levels of popularity.

I mean naturally I'd more look forward to Labour winning but I'll take what I can get.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:09

Lethal Drizzle: Feb 24, 2011

Reminder that TinTower is a lovely unapologetic racist.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:16

NO FUCK YOU DAD: Oct 23, 2008

baka kaba posted:

'Misandry' is a word that's thrown around to pretend that men face the same (or worse!!) systemic prejudice and abuse in society that women do. It's almost exclusively used in a 'we're all equal now so men are the real victims' or 'evil feminists hate men' senses, as a way of undermining any criticism or work that feminism is doing - including the aspects that directly help men, like the things you're talking about. So I really wouldn't be surprised if people with MISANDRY!!! signs get told to do one

Fair enough. I try to avoid MRA nonsense as much as possible and wasn't aware they'd hijacked that word quite so thoroughly.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:18

TinTower: Apr 21, 2010; You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

StoneOfShame posted:

Can we ban student politics its the loving worst.

A lot of political movements would give their right arm for the enthusiasm students have for politics. :colbert:

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:20

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jabby: Oct 27, 2010

LemonDrizzle posted:

From the Times:

Any more info on this YouGov poll? Can't seem to find it.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:22

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