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DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

Apparently Brad Wall has no idea how the equalization program works either.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 20:33

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 22:51

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

peter banana posted:

I like how healthy diets get lumped in with "alt-med" by posters in this thread, as if it's the height of wooism to believe that the 2000 calories one eats everyday can have an effect on well being and not actual medical advice legitimate doctors give eople all of the time.

Where has anyone done this?

I mainly object to the nonsense that people come up with, like:

HFCS is worse than sugar
Diets should be arranged by blood type
Going gluten free (unless you have Celiac disease)
Organic food is healthier
GMO food is unhealthy or dangerous

Eating a good, balanced diet in line with your caloric needs is simply common sense. Like one of my profs said: "it basically comes down to this: Eat food, not too much, and mainly plants."

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:26

Blood Boils: Dec 27, 2006; Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

My diet is primarily cheese based

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:29

eNeMeE: Nov 26, 2012

PT6A posted:

Going gluten free (unless you have Celiac disease)

These people are helpful idiots and I want them to never stop making it easier for me to get decent food.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:35

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

Like peter banana said we've also hit peak bacon diet:

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:36

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Dreylad posted:

Like peter banana said we've also hit peak bacon diet:

quote:

proposal: a fad diet thread in the exercise forum

reality: a mentally ill man resembling a melted candle, the pied piper of ham joints, told people that eating nothing but eggs and bacon and lard in paint buckets (they were literally buying and eating buckets full of lard in the name of good health) would not only make them lose weight, but was so healthy it would cure heart disease and cancer. an enormous fat powerlifter who cant run for 20 seconds probated and banned anyone who challenged this wisdom until it lead to a man barely in his 20s being prescribed statins.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:48

Kafka Esq.: Jan 1, 2005; "If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)

People only make useless anecdotal posts because they want to talk about themselves, not because they care about the issue at hand. This is CanPol Diaries after all.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:48

Heavy neutrino: Sep 16, 2007; You made a fine post for yourself. ...For a casualry, I suppose.

Dreylad posted:

Like peter banana said we've also hit peak bacon diet:

Uh, that guy was trolling, right?

you can't possibly be this dumb

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:51

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

eNeMeE posted:

These people are helpful idiots and I want them to never stop making it easier for me to get decent food.

This is actually a good point that I didn't think of.

I find that our diet is very gluten-focused compared to certain others. When I went to Cuba with a guy who had Celiac, he was all concerned at first, but it turned out that most of the food was naturally gluten free.

If you don't mind me asking: how many "gluten free" versions of food do you eat, compared to just avoiding foods that have gluten in them? I've found that gluten-free versions of things that usually have gluten are not good, but foods that don't have gluten to begin with are fine.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:51

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

Heavy neutrino posted:

Uh, that guy was trolling, right?

you can't possibly be this dumb

I figured but the other guy who got probated was posting decades old research studies from countries with less than reputable research standards to support bacon fat diet so uhhh

# ? Mar 17, 2016 21:58

peter banana: Sep 2, 2008; Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

PT6A posted:

This is actually a good point that I didn't think of.

I find that our diet is very gluten-focused compared to certain others. When I went to Cuba with a guy who had Celiac, he was all concerned at first, but it turned out that most of the food was naturally gluten free.

If you don't mind me asking: how many "gluten free" versions of food do you eat, compared to just avoiding foods that have gluten in them? I've found that gluten-free versions of things that usually have gluten are not good, but foods that don't have gluten to begin with are fine.

I'll bring it back to cider here (IDGAF), but I see a lot of cider labelled as gluten-free to hop on the fad. The more honest people will label it "naturally gluten free," because, uh, there's no gluten in apples. If there's gluten in your cider it's the low rent malt liquor with apple flavouring (Mad Jack).

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:00

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

peter banana posted:

I'll bring it back to cider here (IDGAF), but I see a lot of cider labelled as gluten-free to hop on the fad. The more honest people will label it "naturally gluten free," because, uh, there's no gluten in apples. If there's gluten in your cider it's the low rent malt liquor with apple flavouring (Mad Jack).

Yeah, it's like labeling vegetarian food "cholesterol free." It's technically true, but if the general public weren't ignorant retards, it would be neither advantageous nor useful.

Or labeling things like ketchup or maple syrup "preservative free." The extremely high sugar concentration renders the addition of other preservatives unnecessary.

Honestly, I think there should be a greater focus on food science in middle and high school. It's both science, and extremely applicable to everyday life. And the results are delicious.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:10

eNeMeE: Nov 26, 2012

PT6A posted:

If you don't mind me asking: how many "gluten free" versions of food do you eat, compared to just avoiding foods that have gluten in them? I've found that gluten-free versions of things that usually have gluten are not good, but foods that don't have gluten to begin with are fine.

Hard to say - but quality varies a shitload between sources. There are some gf bread products that would make excellent insulation material or others that should only be used as projectiles but then there are others that are nearly indistinguishable from the real thing, frex. The biggest advantage is that restaurants now usually have an idea what's going on and can make something I can eat - as opposed to a decade or so ago when it was "I'll have the salad. How do you cook that chicken? Oh, just the salad then. The dressing is what? Yeah, no dressing either. Do you make plain rice?".

Also there are perfectly acceptable ways to make sauces that don't require wheat flour as a thickener but it used to be done very rarely - much more common now to use some other thickening agent since it lets them get more people without having to sacrifice anything even though they used to do it with wheat flour. Gluten is just delicious, though, so anything that can be made with gluten and isn't will be less tasty than the equivalent made with gluten - try buying Rice Krispies and GF Rice Krispies. They aren't comparable.

I eat pasta and cereal and bread and tortillas and ... pretty much everything else I'd have eaten in the halcyon days of yore, in gf versions, but a lot of the gf attempts should be launched into the sun. Possibly not since the sun might just say gently caress it and destroy the planet for inflicting that terrible poo poo on it. The quality has pretty steadily increased, though, so now I can get perogies and ravioli that are genuinely tasty which was previously impossible. The major problem with gf baked products is that the standard solution is to add more sugar to make it palatable. Which is both bad and terrible (especially since I'm also a type 1 diabetic! Go me!)

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:35

sitchensis: Mar 4, 2009

Religious freedom envoy joins think-tank ahead of Liberals' decision on office

CBCnews posted:

Religious freedoms ambassador Andrew Bennett has joined a public policy think-tank amid uncertainty over the future of his office under the Liberal government.

The Canadian Press has learned that Bennett has become a senior fellow at Cardus, a research group that bills its work as stemming from "2,000 years of Christian social thought."

He will also chair the group's Faith in Canada 150 program while he serves out the balance of his term as ambassador.

"I look forward very much to working with Cardus, the think-tank best placed in my view to reaffirm the essential and foundational role of faith in our common life as Canadians," Bennett said in a statement to The Canadian Press.

The Tories set up the Office of Religious Freedom in 2013, and appointed Bennett, a former public servant and Christian theologian, as its first ambassador.

His three-year term was supposed to end last month, but the Liberals extended it until the end of March to coincide with the expiration of the office's mandate and annual $5 million in funding.
Foreign Affairs Minister Stephane Dion has been sending signals, however, that neither will be renewed in their current form.

He told the Senate he was considering whether the office was the best way to protect religious freedoms.

"Is that the best approach? As you know, according to international convention, rights are indivisible, interrelated and
interdependent, and that is the approach we want to develop," he said in February.

"Freedom of religion could never be defended without freedom of conscience, freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, or freedom of movement. That is all very important. That will be the focus of our thinking in determining how best to defend the various rights."

While Bennett is joining Cardus immediately, he remains on the public payroll. His job with the group is unpaid and the Foreign Affairs department said it will not affect his work with the government.

A spokesperson for Dion said no decision has been made yet on the future of the office.

"We are grateful for his continued service as we carefully consider how best to preserve and protect all human rights,
including the vital freedom of religion or belief," Chantal Gagnon, a spokeswoman for Dion, said in an e-mail.

The Tories first announced plans for the office during the 2011 campaign, saying they were provoked by the assassination of a Christian politician in Pakistan to do more to protect religious minorities around the world as part of their foreign policy.

The move was criticized, however, as being a dangerous mix of religion and politics and concerns were raised it wouldn't seek to promote the freedom of all religions equally.

Among other places, the office has funded projects in Myanmar, Iraq, Indonesia and Pakistan focused on raising awareness and support for religious diversity and tolerance.

Conservatives, as well as Jewish, Sikh and Ahmadiyya Muslim groups, have been lobbying the Liberals to keep the office in place, saying with religious persecution underpinning so many global conflicts, its work is more important than ever.

Cardus' Faith in Canada 150 program will bring together religious leaders from all backgrounds ahead of Canada's 150th birthday to focus on the role of faith in Canada.

"Ambassador Bennett's deep understanding of how we can live together in difference is essential for this national celebration," Michael Van Pelt, the president of Cardus, said in a statement.

I'm happy to hear that this waste of money will probably have its doors shut soon.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:44

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

We should send everyone involved in the office of religious freedom to accompany all of our arms shipments to various countries, with bibles in tow.

Either the Saudis would imprison or maybe kill them, or we'd stop selling arms to the Saudis, and either way I'd count it a win.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 22:46

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

DariusLikewise posted:

Apparently Brad Wall has no idea how the equalization program works either.

Nationwide ignorance re: equalization payments is triggering me so loving hard right now.

E: I trolled the poo poo out of a nationalist cousin at dinner telling them that equalization payments are as old as conferderation. (Everybody clapped, obv.)

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:02

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Isn't it kind of a complicated formula with rolling averages and over weighting of natural resource income? I'd love to hear a simple explanation.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:05

ecureuilmatrix: Mar 30, 2011

Pinterest Mom posted:

Qu�bec's anti-corruption unit arrested Charest's former deputy Premier, Nathalie Normandeau, the former fundraiser and cabinet minister Marc-Yvan C�t�, and a bunch of PLQ staffers today

e: Man: 7 counts of corruption/fraud, maximum 14 years in jail.

OH QUE OUI!

Besides the corruption, one of the most disagreeable and condescending persons in this lovely body politic, good riddance. Hope to see the old curlyheaded bastard join her.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:13

cowofwar: Jul 30, 2002; by Athanatos

Office of religious freedom is definitely something that should be banished to the NGO world.

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:20

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Ikantski posted:

Isn't it kind of a complicated formula with rolling averages and over weighting of natural resource income? I'd love to hear a simple explanation.

It's not super complicated: http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/eqp-eng.asp

Determine the average tax rates of the Canadian provinces (this is a bit of a mess, but simple in concept).
Determine the tax revenue available to all of the provinces, if they were using the average tax rate. This includes personal taxes, business taxes, consumption taxes, up to 50% of resource revenues, and property taxes.
Determine the tax revenue available to a particular province, if it were using the average tax rate.
If (2) is greater than (3) on a per capita basis, the Feds cut said province a cheque to make up the difference.

Notably, this setup means that if your province is dumb and tries to undercut the tax rates of other provinces in the name of 'job creation', the other provinces don't have to foot the bill.

PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Mar 17, 2016

# ? Mar 17, 2016 23:22

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

But why do the French get money? They should be forbidden from it, as they suffer from a malignant disease of the brain and are not to be trusted

Edit: For the sarcasm-impaired, I'm not actually serious about this.

PT6A fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Mar 18, 2016

# ? Mar 18, 2016 01:54

jsoh: Mar 24, 2007; O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

thats a really funny joke good job

# ? Mar 18, 2016 02:00

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

So I went to small rural town southern Ontario today, and saw something that stood out among the jacked up pickups. I saw a 'made in Canada matters' sticker on a us assembled truck :confused:

above that sticker was a Canadian maple leaf with the words "anti-Islam and proud".

At a guess I'm going to say this was a self made gentleman, inclusive of education.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 02:03

Wistful of Dollars: Aug 25, 2009

"Islam a factor in Islamist terrorism"

Profound.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 02:05

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

Newfoundland doesn't qualify for equalization? Huh, did not know that.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 02:16

Furnaceface: Oct 21, 2004

jm20 posted:

So I went to small rural town southern Ontario today, and saw something that stood out among the jacked up pickups. I saw a 'made in Canada matters' sticker on a us assembled truck above that sticker was a Canadian maple leaf with the words "anti-Islam and proud".

At a guess I'm going to say this was a self made gentleman, inclusive of education.

Kind of creepy but I got behind a pickup on the 400 today on my way to work with the same anti-islam sticker. Its was kind of amazing just how much it stood out, even on a truck with camo tinted windows, a tall grass border along the bottom and a ton of hunting gear in the back. :smith:

# ? Mar 18, 2016 02:46

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Jordan7hm posted:

Newfoundland doesn't qualify for equalization? Huh, did not know that.

Oil. It should also be noted that Newfoundland and Labrador are on an older formula for determining transfer payments, but it doesn't matter because they don't qualify for them anyway.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 02:50

Do it ironically: Jul 13, 2010; by Pragmatica

El Scotch posted:

"Islam a factor in Islamist terrorism"

Profound.

the calgary sun is a national treasure

# ? Mar 18, 2016 03:48

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

PittTheElder posted:

Oil. It should also be noted that Newfoundland and Labrador are on an older formula for determining transfer payments, but it doesn't matter because they don't qualify for them anyway.

Yeah, I meant that even without the oil that link says they wouldn't qualify regardless because they didn't take the agreement that was offered to them and NS. That's what was news to me.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 03:51

apatheticman: May 13, 2003; Wedge Regret

Do it ironically posted:

the calgary sun is a national treasure

To be fair the columnist is from the toronto sun

# ? Mar 18, 2016 04:33

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

The CBC is going to require commenters use real names.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/cbc-news-online-commenting-no-pseudonyms-1.3496467

# ? Mar 18, 2016 05:29

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

All news websites' comment sections are shitpits of racist, illiterate idiocy and should not exist.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 05:34

apatheticman: May 13, 2003; Wedge Regret

flakeloaf posted:

All news websites' comment sections are shitpits of racist, illiterate idiocy and should not exist.

http://stevenf.com/shutupcss/

a fine resource for those that believe the above.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 05:41

Morroque: Mar 6, 2013

Cultural Imperial posted:

The CBC is going to require commenters use real names.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/cbc-news-online-commenting-no-pseudonyms-1.3496467

All evidence suggests to me that if they are hoping this would improve the tenor of their commenting, it would fail without fanfare. People who already feel comfortable enough to casually post things that are hateful of others aren't intimidated by an increased threat of getting doxxed.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 05:42

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

Cultural Imperial posted:

The CBC is going to require commenters use real names.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/cbc-news-online-commenting-no-pseudonyms-1.3496467

If this is their plan they should just implement a Facebook comments section and get it over with. I can't believe they're spending time and money trying to come up with a way to make a loving news website comments section not a toxic hellscape of prejudice.

e: this is extra good because their old system (not the one they just got rid of but the one before that) was actually really good at sorting the wheat from the chaff and was legitimately the best news website comments system. God knows why they changed it.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 06:06

Furnaceface: Oct 21, 2004

flakeloaf posted:

All news websites' comment sections are shitpits of racist, illiterate idiocy and should not exist.

But enough about the Something Awful Forums. :v:

# ? Mar 18, 2016 06:27

Newfie: Oct 8, 2013; 10 years of oil boom and 20 billion dollars cash, all I got was a case of beer, a pack of smokes, and 14% unemployment.
Thanks, Danny.

Cultural Imperial posted:

The CBC is going to require commenters use real names.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/cbc-news-online-commenting-no-pseudonyms-1.3496467

Yeah, because it's not like their Facebook comments aren't equally terrible. This just means outright racist shitheels will be outright racist shitheels on another forum and everyone will cheer them on.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 06:28

Newfie: Oct 8, 2013; 10 years of oil boom and 20 billion dollars cash, all I got was a case of beer, a pack of smokes, and 14% unemployment.
Thanks, Danny.

vyelkin posted:

If this is their plan they should just implement a Facebook comments section and get it over with. I can't believe they're spending time and money trying to come up with a way to make a loving news website comments section not a toxic hellscape of prejudice.

e: this is extra good because their old system (not the one they just got rid of but the one before that) was actually really good at sorting the wheat from the chaff and was legitimately the best news website comments system. God knows why they changed it.

Because it takes money and good people to keep that kind of poo poo running, both of which the cbc lost in droves the past few years.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 06:30

MonsieurChoc: Oct 12, 2013; Every species can smell its own extinction.

I'm so loving happy we started cleaning house in Quebec. It feels like when the mayor of Laval was arrested while his wife was trying unsuccessfully to stuff the new plastic dollar bills into the toilet.

# ? Mar 18, 2016 06:49

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Furnaceface: Oct 21, 2004

MonsieurChoc posted:

I'm so loving happy we started cleaning house in Quebec. It feels like when the mayor of Laval was arrested while his wife was trying unsuccessfully to stuff the new plastic dollar bills into the toilet.

Wait what? That actually happened?

# ? Mar 18, 2016 06:50

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