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RideTheSpiral posted:revisionism is what history is. im sorry that you believe there is one unassailable absolute history that is written down in a book somewhere except, you know, the part of history we know about because it was written down in a book somewhere
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im being trolled as gently caress in this thread goddamn
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VikingSkull posted:except, you know, the part of history we know about because it was written down in a book somewhere
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VikingSkull posted:except, you know, the part of history we know about because it was written down in a book somewhere ive been got
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dan frequently points out differences in what historians used to believe vs what they believe now thouhg
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RideTheSpiral posted:no he actively rejects what he called revisionist history. that is called history. no one cares about historiography, thats way to inside baseball for the average person. people just want a story about stuff that happened in the past, thats history to most people. i listened to one of this guys podcasts, and hes pretty entertaining. its basically the musing of a guy whos really interested in history. he's not making things up, or claiming to be an expert. i enjoy his enthusiasm for historical mysteries. i'm sorry RideTheSpiral, your being a wet blanket
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i listened to the ww1 one awhile back and it owned. ageen ageen ageen boxing metaphor
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quote:the best part was when he talked about mongols and spent 45 moralising about the Mongols being 'bad dudes' before launching into the history he read on wikipedia and denouncing all modern historiography quote:I am a historian and have lived in central asia for the past 5 years is this u 
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Bardeh posted:is this u that person appears to be in tibet
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I'm sure historians out of Central Asia set the gold standard for not white-washing the Mongols 
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The Kingfish posted:I'm sure historians out of Central Asia set the gold standard for not white-washing the Mongols im not sure what you mean by whitewashing. it happened 800 years ago. who gives a poo poo you nerd
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The mongols killed a lot of people and tortured some folks. They were some pretty rude dudes uhh actually they weren't rude at all? and while they may have killed a lot of dudes, the rivers didn't LITERALLY run red with the blood of innocents. and the mountain of skulls thing? it was a hill at most 
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to be fair, a majority of what people today would call a Mongol probably spent most of their time herding animals on the steppes but boy howdy did they rape and pillage a lot, too
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Man Whore posted:The mongols killed a lot of people and tortured some folks. They were some pretty rude dudes yeah they were badasses. you seem pretty butthurt about some peasants being killed
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I don't think anyone particularly cares that some enhanced barbarians killed some other enhanced barbarians
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VikingSkull posted:I don't think anyone particularly cares that some enhanced barbarians killed some other enhanced barbarians except your spiritual guide dan carlin who spent 40 mins of his pussy rear end podcast talking about how immoral they were lmao
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RideTheSpiral posted:that person appears to be in tibet Yeah you see RideTheSpiral is in the part of central asia that tibet isn't in. He was in central asia before it was cool, man
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gobbagool posted:You obviously didnt read. RideTheSpiral is a ~historian~ and lives in ~central asia~. His credibility on the topic is unassailable. Like Central Asia has any good history. "Oh look at us, we love Mohammad and his child bride, let's conquer the whole loving poo poo desert. And hey, our whole matriarchal society can just go hang, dicks rule, snatches drool. OH gently caress its Ghengis Khan on god he's loving us, he's loving us up the rear end, oh god my bleeding rear end oh god and his horses too" Meanwhile in India they discovered enlightenment and then just shat in a river for a thousand years, proving that Nirvana was always a false promise.
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they were p cool but they were definitely the bad guy
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RideTheSpiral posted:yeah they were badasses. you seem pretty butthurt about some peasants being killed wait until the transgender community hears about this.
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RideTheSpiral posted:except your spiritual guide dan carlin who spent 40 mins of his pussy rear end podcast talking about how immoral they were lmao in a thread full of history dorks you set the new standard for awkward
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Like Central Asia has any good history. "Oh look at us, we love Mohammad and his child bride, let's conquer the whole loving poo poo desert. And hey, our whole matriarchal society can just go hang, dicks rule, snatches drool. OH gently caress its Ghengis Khan on god he's loving us, he's loving us up the rear end, oh god my bleeding rear end oh god and his horses too" paging RideTheSpiral, do you think you could provide us a scholarly analysis of this before I suggest to 8bit that he make his own podcast?
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RideTheSpiral posted:except your spiritual guide dan carlin who spent 40 mins of his pussy rear end podcast talking about how immoral they were lmao burning a village to set an example so you don't have to burn 10 others is still immoral in contemporary parlance the Mongols in Central Asia behaved like the US did in Vietnam
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RideTheSpiral posted:yeah they were badasses. you seem pretty butthurt about some peasants being killed Ghengis Khan is probably literally your daddy. Due to all the raping.
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like you can talk about how cool the vikings are too but it doesn't change the fact that they burn down churches for slaves and also boredom.
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gobbagool posted:Yeah you see RideTheSpiral is in the part of central asia that tibet isn't in. He was in central asia before it was cool, man are you for real
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whoflungpoop posted:in a thread full of history dorks you set the new standard for awkward there is only one history dork in this thread. its me
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VikingSkull posted:burning a village to set an example so you don't have to burn 10 others is still immoral ethics is a different discipline to history. that are not related in any way
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RideTheSpiral posted:there is only one dork in this thread. its me
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I just love that one part where a Muslim mission to china is interrupted by a swamp a swamp made of body juices
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RideTheSpiral posted:im not sure what you mean by whitewashing. it happened 800 years ago. who gives a poo poo you nerd You're the dickfour claiming some special authority on this because you're in ~central asia~
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Man Whore posted:I just love that one part where a Muslim mission to china is interrupted by a swamp sounds plausible
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RideTheSpiral posted:ethics is a different discipline to history. that are not related in any way it's a good thing Carlin is doing a dumb internet podcast and not employed by a university, then it allows him to talk about things without seeming like he has a massive social disorder
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gobbagool posted:You're the dickfour claiming some special authority on this because you're in ~central asia~ that does give me special authority
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VikingSkull posted:it's a good thing Carlin is doing a dumb internet podcast and not employed by a university, then i mean youre obviously free to listen to whatever you want. but its strange to listen to a podcast by a self declared non expert
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RideTheSpiral posted:that does give me special authority you're as white as the driven snow, aren't you
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History of the World in 100 Objects is a good podcast and I applaud whomever mentioned it. Hardcore History has its moments, but his voice reminds me of Sean Hannity or something and that's not good.
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VikingSkull posted:you're as white as the driven snow, aren't you nah im quite swarthy
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RideTheSpiral posted:sounds plausible
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Man Whore posted:I just love that one part where a Muslim mission to china is interrupted by a swamp RTS will now explain to you that a swamp is really defined by its biodiversity and a whole buncha other bullshit so that in fact dan carlin is wrong wrong wrong to use the word swamp and explain how he, the One True Arbiter of Historical Fact, should be thanked for enlightening us wrongthinkers
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