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Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

DancingShade posted:

The war horn is totally going to distract from the looping animated GIF computer screens conveying vital battlefield information.

You should fill your cockpit up with spinning holo maps, dangling C-Bill medallions and flashing war horns or xmas lights. Think of them as a crib mobile for your dead team member spectators.

More like Disco balls and Pugs in helmets.

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DOMDOM
Apr 28, 2007

Fun Shoe

armchairyoda posted:

:smith:

PS- canadian whiskey sucks.
Will you judge me if I tell you my whiskey comes out of a plastic bottle?

Seriously though, this has to be Paul's doing. We were all earning too many cbills. Enter the PAULconomy where cbill earnings are nerfed by putting artificial constraints on game time. BRILLIANT

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





DOMDOM posted:

Will you judge me if I tell you my whiskey comes out of a plastic bottle?

What the gently caress

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer
I'm back again. Tell me the juicy stuff.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Anita Dickinme posted:

I'm back again. Tell me the juicy stuff.

Gawker got buttfucked by Hulk Hogan.

Stringbean
Aug 6, 2010
Archer is Meh
New Map is Good
New Game Mode is "Meh"
Forced Capture on Assault/Conquest Sucks
DOMDOM drinks whiskey from a plastic jug which is gross.

that's it, update OP accordingly.

Stringbean fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Mar 19, 2016

Olesh
Aug 4, 2008

Why did the circus close?

A long, chilling list of animal rights violations.

Talmonis posted:

Picked up a Gargoyle last night for want of a fast assault. Then I put 12 small pulse lasers on it. Apparently if you do that, you can peel anything you get close enough to like a grape.

I think the Commoners build uses 6xERSL + 6xSPL for the express purpose of shoving in three more heatsinks; at which point it's _almost_ heat neutral if you're only firing half your lasers on repeat.

Stringbean posted:

Archer is Meh
New Map is Good
New Game Mode is "Meh"
Forced Capture on Assault/Conquest Sucks
DOMDOM drinks whiskey from a plastic jug which is gross.

that's it, update OP accordingly.

Russ has already tweeted that hotfixes are "probably" happening next week for the Archer and conquest mode. Originally he tried to stall it for the April patch but people are complaining loudly and widely about the conquest changes, at least.

Domination is fine, just another variant of "fight on the objective" except with only one objective and minimal time to dick around stalling. It's better than Conquest or Assault, since there's approximately zero chance that there won't be a fight.

DiHK
Feb 4, 2013

by Azathoth
Upgraded that video card, now i get 75ish FPS on High... too bad i have zero desire to play right now.

In other news: I had a dream that i was playing this game, but like IRL, and I had helios and could see the reds coming.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Stringbean posted:

Forced Capture on Assault/Conquest Sucks

Correction, it's Domination with the forced cap. Assault you can still win by skirmish rules.

Astroniomix
Apr 24, 2015



A.o.D. posted:

No it won't.

Also, you won't be effective.

This is wrong, firing resets the timer, it's why they had to remove ghost heat from the AC/2

Ren and Stimpire
Oct 28, 2013

Fun Shoe

armchairyoda posted:

:smith:

PS- canadian whiskey sucks.

It is known.

Stringbean
Aug 6, 2010

EponymousMrYar posted:

Correction, it's Domination with the forced cap. Assault you can still win by skirmish rules.

Oh, I thought they all were under the same "must cap" rules. Good to know!

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


Olesh posted:

Russ has already tweeted that hotfixes are "probably" happening next week for the Archer and conquest mode. Originally he tried to stall it for the April patch but people are complaining loudly and widely about the conquest changes, at least.

The engineer needed to fix one item for the hotfix wasn't in on Friday. We're waiting for him to be back on Monday to confirm that his fix is done before we commit to a hotfix date.

Sharks Dont Sleep
Mar 4, 2009

In pairing luxury automobiles with large predatory felines we have achieved reality ahead of schedule.

Talmonis posted:

Picked up a Gargoyle last night for want of a fast assault. Then I put 12 small pulse lasers on it. Apparently if you do that, you can peel anything you get close enough to like a grape.

And you can do literally the same thing on an Executioner, also fit an LPL, and have JJ and Masc.

Olesh
Aug 4, 2008

Why did the circus close?

A long, chilling list of animal rights violations.

Number19 posted:

The engineer needed to fix one item for the hotfix wasn't in on Friday. We're waiting for him to be back on Monday to confirm that his fix is done before we commit to a hotfix date.

I'm just glad that it's not actually being held up for the April patch.

Sharks Dont Sleep posted:

And you can do literally the same thing on an Executioner, also fit an LPL, and have JJ and Masc.

They're pretty similar, although at 80 tons a Gargoyle's easier to fit into a group. Plus, between the bigger engine and better quirks, the Gargoyle is just more agile overall, even if the Executioner gets to edge it out on turn speed and acceleration/deceleration.

Clan Assaults get a bad rap for a reason.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


M y second mech was a missile boat hunchback and I figured I'd finally get another pair to master it.

I literally cannot get 150 team score with this 4G. Even when I get kills. Even when we win and I spend the whole time following my team. I mean if I get aggressive people shoot my hunch and then I don't have an ac/20 anymore. And if I take opportunistic attacks I win with 120. Amazing.

Trying to find some kind of middleground. I tried to shoot a jenner just now, took three steps into the open to try to shoot over the lip he ducked under and missile launch detected. I look up in wonderment at the missiles in flight. THousands. More than the stars in the sky. All for me. It was beautiful.

Stringbean
Aug 6, 2010
4G is easy to rack it up. Just hang out with some heavies and lay into people with that absurd weapon reload. Just always be around something that draws more fire. People just don't seem to see them as a threat.

DOMDOM
Apr 28, 2007

Fun Shoe

Number19 posted:

The engineer needed to fix one item for the hotfix wasn't in on Friday. We're waiting for him to be back on Monday to confirm that his fix is done before we commit to a hotfix date.
Number 19 I think you've been awesome throughout mwo's existence and I appreciate your insight and posts

but next time you see paul please slap him on the rear end and call him sport for me, tia

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.
Guys I bought a banshee 3M which has been highly touted as a good mech and I now know why we lose horrifically every game that we face the EMP guys who are using banshee 3Ms. It is because the mech is super OP broken as gently caress. It took me four games to basic it out, but now I have to buy more banshees to get them elite.





It has fire points that are clustered right at cockpit level so you can expose almost none of your mech while shooting people, and it has 10% fire quirks on every single energy trait that you can get quirks on. It can also break 70kph very easily so maneuvering isn't an issue.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Commoners posted:

Guys I bought a banshee 3M which has been highly touted as a good mech and I now know why we lose horrifically every game that we face the EMP guys who are using banshee 3Ms. It is because the mech is super OP broken as gently caress. It took me four games to basic it out, but now I have to buy more banshees to get them elite.





It has fire points that are clustered right at cockpit level so you can expose almost none of your mech while shooting people, and it has 10% fire quirks on every single energy trait that you can get quirks on. It can also break 70kph very easily so maneuvering isn't an issue.

What do you run on it? I do the 4 LPL with two smalls to push the LPL up higher, but I'd imagine it'd be better with 3 LPL/some MLs?

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.
5LPL with the small laser space wasters and an XL380, then I stand behind a rock and shoot at people's faces with impunity.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

Commoners posted:

5LPL with the small laser space wasters and an XL380, then I stand behind a rock and shoot at people's faces with impunity.

You crazy for this one, Commoners

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


Olesh posted:

I'm just glad that it's not actually being held up for the April patch

Well I'm not 100% promising that. It it's hard to fix it might slip. Our hot fix window is nearly closed at this point so if it drags beyond a couple of days then it might not make it until the patch.

Beraiye
Oct 27, 2014

Commoners posted:

Guys I bought a banshee 3M which has been highly touted as a good mech and I now know why we lose horrifically every game that we face the EMP guys who are using banshee 3Ms. It is because the mech is super OP broken as gently caress. It took me four games to basic it out, but now I have to buy more banshees to get them elite.





It has fire points that are clustered right at cockpit level so you can expose almost none of your mech while shooting people, and it has 10% fire quirks on every single energy trait that you can get quirks on. It can also break 70kph very easily so maneuvering isn't an issue.

The 3S is the only one of the group that's not really just plain great. The 3E is my favorite mech in the game. Grit your teeth and get through the 3S and you'll have 2 other mechs that you'll enjoy thoroughly.

Drythe
Aug 26, 2012


 

Commoners posted:

Guys I bought a banshee 3M which has been highly touted as a good mech and I now know why we lose horrifically every game that we face the EMP guys who are using banshee 3Ms. It is because the mech is super OP broken as gently caress. It took me four games to basic it out, but now I have to buy more banshees to get them elite.





It has fire points that are clustered right at cockpit level so you can expose almost none of your mech while shooting people, and it has 10% fire quirks on every single energy trait that you can get quirks on. It can also break 70kph very easily so maneuvering isn't an issue.

what are you running on yours?

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Krinkle posted:

M y second mech was a missile boat hunchback and I figured I'd finally get another pair to master it.

I literally cannot get 150 team score with this 4G. Even when I get kills. Even when we win and I spend the whole time following my team. I mean if I get aggressive people shoot my hunch and then I don't have an ac/20 anymore. And if I take opportunistic attacks I win with 120. Amazing.

Trying to find some kind of middleground. I tried to shoot a jenner just now, took three steps into the open to try to shoot over the lip he ducked under and missile launch detected. I look up in wonderment at the missiles in flight. THousands. More than the stars in the sky. All for me. It was beautiful.

Some 4G tips, as it's my favorite mech;

You're a sitting duck outside of 300m, so get very used to hugging cover during poke phases.
Put a bigger engine in it to get the most out of the agility quirks. Pay for that engine with leg armor. Nobody is going to shoot a 4G in the legs if it has a shot at the Hunch. Here's mine;HBK-4G(F) - "Racine"
When you get that itch to "go out and do something" that we all get while hugging cover for a few minutes, ignore it. It will get you killed and waste all that potential.
Your primary job in a Hunchback is to escort the slowest assaults. I'm talking Atlases, Maulers, King Crabs and Dire Wolves. Eventually, when they either lead an assault, or get jumped by lights, you can punch holes in the enemy threats with rapid AC/20 fire. Lights don't stand up well to the AC/20, which is surprisingly easy to aim with a little practice. For example, Jenners (current pain in the rear end of choice) have a wide rear end, and a single shot to the back will punch into the internals.
Remember to use your left side as a shield. The twist quirks help greatly with this, so it's easy to just fire and twist away for the recycle.
Don't overheat. If you're over 60%, chain fire the lasers, or just use the AC/20. Use a cool shot 9 in a brawl.
The module slots are generous. Use both the Radar depravation and Seismic mods, along with both range and cooldown AC/20 and Range mod for the Medium lasers. For consumables I generally keep a coolshot 9, and UAV.

Stringbean
Aug 6, 2010

Talmonis posted:

HBK-4G
Take out a medium on the left arm and cram a 245 into it instead. You get extra mobility and a shield arm. If you're going to be doing a close range peek and poke you'll want that extra speed to reverse back into cover.


imho

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Stringbean posted:

Take out a medium on the left arm and cram a 245 into it instead. You get extra mobility and a shield arm. If you're going to be doing a close range peek and poke you'll want that extra speed to reverse back into cover.


imho

you want the bigger engine but I've never found the arms to be effective shields on the hunchbacks.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Hunchback arms are tiny. Strip the armor if theres nothing in there, run 16 or so if you just have a medium in there.

Stringbean
Aug 6, 2010

Cyrano4747 posted:

you want the bigger engine but I've never found the arms to be effective shields on the hunchbacks.

They're scrawny but they seem to help on my end. People like to drag lasers instead of boring them in on one location.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

I just put one point of armor on them. They don't register as open normally, but they take a touch of damage and all of a sudden people are tripping over themselves to drill into empty internal structure.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
sometimes this game does have melee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nolOOPnE0lE&t=606s

As for the HBK-4G play, all that's been said before is good advice. You wanna abuse that high mount/right side for peeking, and only do so when you can definitely get away with it. Eventually you'll figure out when you can linger for a second shot before going into cover, and all will be well and all will be well and all manner of thing shall be well

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.
Really need that PPC buff to come soon. I had a blast playing with my Rifleman 5D last night (Grim Plexus is a Rifleman playground), but could really use some more "Kick" for all the heat I'm putting out.

Also, does anyone notice a shifting of the meta toward ER Large Laser firing lines? I keep seeing nothing but Hellbringers, Timber wolves and Banshees sporting ER's and gauss.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

Talmonis posted:

Really need that PPC buff to come soon. I had a blast playing with my Rifleman 5D last night (Grim Plexus is a Rifleman playground), but could really use some more "Kick" for all the heat I'm putting out.

Also, does anyone notice a shifting of the meta toward ER Large Laser firing lines? I keep seeing nothing but Hellbringers, Timber wolves and Banshees sporting ER's and gauss.

This is not a shift. The meta has been lrms and large lasers for a while now.

In solo queue that is. Pubbies freak out if they take damage. It's why it's almost impossible to ever get into a brawl in solo queues.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
incidentally, here are the new Archer quirks:

Quirk Adjustments
Archer ARC-2R and ARC-2R [S]
• Added Missile Heat Gen -10%
• Increased CT Structure from 11 to 22
• Added LT structure +15
• Added RT structure +15

Archer ARC-5S
• Added Missile Cooldown -5%
• Added Missile Heat Gen -5%
• Added CT Structure 22
• Added LT Structure 15
• Added RT Structure 15

Archer ARC-5W
• Increased Acceleration from 30% to 60%
• Increased Deceleration from 30% to 60%
• Increased CT Structure from 11 to 22
• Increased LT Structure from 7 to 15
• Increased RT Structure from 7 to 15
• Added Structure LA 9
• Added Structure RA 9

Archer ARC-T
• Added Missile Velocity +10%
• Increased Missile Heat Gen from -5% to -10%
• Increased CT Structure from 11 to 18
• Increased LT Structure from 7 to 12
• Increased RT Structure from 7 to 12
• Increased LA Structure from 5 to 9
• Increased RA Structure from 5 to 9
• Increased LA Structure from 5 to 9
• Increased LL Structure from 7 to 12
• Increased RL Structure from 7 to 12


also changes to Conquest/Domination:

Conquest Game Mode
Conquest matches will now end if both of the following two conditions are met:
a) The Enemy team has been eliminated and
b) The surviving team holds a sufficient number of Capture zones to ensure a Resource Point victory (if the match were to end at the expiration of the match clock)

Domination Game Mode
Domination matches will now end if both of the following two conditions are met:
a) The Enemy team has been eliminated and
b) at least one surviving 'Mech is inside the capture radius with more time left on the match clock than is needed to finish their capture

Stringbean
Aug 6, 2010
Welp, Archers got some structure buffs and a few extra quirks to assist in generalized missile stuff. Not huge buffs but the extra structure will help the 5S survive brawling a bit longer. Considering it had no CT or ST structure quirks to begin with.

e: Damnit beaten like something something mech related beat down.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Cyrano4747 posted:

I'll believe it when I see it. They would probably deal with the fallout from releasing a poo poo nostalgia mech than every mech from here out having demands for a week one buff

It's nice to be wrong. Hotfix scheduled for today, and from the patch notes:

quote:

Archer ARC-2R and ARC-2R [S]
• Added Missile Heat Gen -10%
• Increased CT Structure from 11 to 22
• Added LT structure +15
• Added RT structure +15

Archer ARC-5S
• Added Missile Cooldown -5%
• Added Missile Heat Gen -5%
• Added CT Structure 22
• Added LT Structure 15
• Added RT Structure 15

Archer ARC-5W
• Increased Acceleration from 30% to 60%
• Increased Deceleration from 30% to 60%
• Increased CT Structure from 11 to 22
• Increased LT Structure from 7 to 15
• Increased RT Structure from 7 to 15
• Added Structure LA 9
• Added Structure RA 9

Archer ARC-T
• Added Missile Velocity +10%
• Increased Missile Heat Gen from -5% to -10%
• Increased CT Structure from 11 to 18
• Increased LT Structure from 7 to 12
• Increased RT Structure from 7 to 12
• Increased LA Structure from 5 to 9
• Increased RA Structure from 5 to 9
• Increased LA Structure from 5 to 9
• Increased LL Structure from 7 to 12
• Increased RL Structure from 7 to 12

They're still not going to be great, but at least they will be significantly more survivable with those awful torso hitboxes. The added missile velocity quirks aren't great, but they're OK. Still not as good at being a missile boat as the catapult, though. A number of those stack 20% cooldown with 10% velocity and/or -10% heat gen.

Still a disappointing, lovely mech.

edit: goddamnit, ef;b while copy/pasting

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.
So where are my Rifleman quirks?

Super 3
Dec 31, 2007

Sometimes the powers you get are shit.

Talmonis posted:

So where are my Rifleman quirks?

In the trash with the Rifleman.

Took my Crabs out for a drive this weekend. I had bought them back during the sale and they are nasty. Their size and speed make it easy to switch from clawing out butt meat to running down some harassing lights. After a while I was getting cocky and making dumb decisions like I was in a heavier mech. I wish MWO had mech emotes so I could scuttle about clacking my claws.

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Zyntherius
Jul 25, 2014

Could i get an Invite to WoL Ign: Zyntherius

Also, What are peoples oppion on the Jenner IIC 6 SRM-6 build... You know the silly glass cannon build http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=362&l=034bc729b177a2c3b55de8bc59841f3113ce8509

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