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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Who What Now posted:

GBS is pretty harmless and it still has a good thread or two once a blue moon. :shrug:

While GBS has some shitheads most of the posters are pretty okay on balance. FYAD is where all the completely unapologetic toxicity is these days. Or is it all just ~an act~ for super ironic fun time metahumor?

it's not

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Hate Fibration
Apr 8, 2013

FLÄSHYN!

Fututor Magnus posted:

The fucks who go on about poo poo like that splintered off of SA and have their own lovely off-site forum where all they talk about is SA mods and drama. It's really quite pathetic. Except for the ones who're still here on the gbs.

They have a stickied thread where they make fun of the people who post in the trans thread.

Apparently it was hilarious to them that my friend cancelled our Thanksgiving plans because they were uncomfortable with me being trans. They are...not good people.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Loeb CL posted:

Well, I just finished reading this thread from the very beginning, and I have exactly one question: who is this St_Rev guy? I've noticed his tweets get posted a lot but I don't understand why, because I've never seen him referenced anywhere else other than this thread.

He is a weird dude who is kind of adjacent to NRx and LW groups without really being a proper member of either. Intensifying nerd culture wars have made him say increasingly bizarre and idiotic things about politics.

Also was apparently a math professor at some point.

EDIT: I don't think he's really a big wheel, some people in the thread just post him a lot because he says dumb poo poo on twitter so it's easily digestible dumb poo poo as opposed to Moldbug's epic journeys through verbiage.

The Vosgian Beast has a new favorite as of 23:13 on Mar 19, 2016

Curvature of Earth
Sep 9, 2011

Projected cost of
invading Canada:
$900

The Vosgian Beast posted:

He is a weird dude who is kind of adjacent to NRx and LW groups without really being a proper member of either. Intensifying nerd culture wars have made him say increasingly bizarre and idiotic things about politics.

Also was apparently a math professor at some point.

Weird. He always seemed more like the kind of guy who rails against random branches of math, like frequentist statistics.

...Wait, no, that's Yudkowsky.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Hate Fibration posted:

They have a stickied thread where they make fun of the people who post in the trans thread.

Apparently it was hilarious to them that my friend cancelled our Thanksgiving plans because they were uncomfortable with me being trans. They are...not good people.

Yeah, no kidding. I'd just chalk them up to being pathetic goons but their's is the worst of toxic goon racism, transphobia, misogyny etc. The kind you won't see much of on GBS, because they were too toxic for GBS.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

While GBS has some shitheads most of the posters are pretty okay on balance. FYAD is where all the completely unapologetic toxicity is these days. Or is it all just ~an act~ for super ironic fun time metahumor?

it's not

Many FYAD posters are openly anti-transphobia and anti-racist, that is, on twitter and the like. The rest I'm less convinced about how ~*ironic*~ their act is.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Hate Fibration posted:

They have a stickied thread where they make fun of the people who post in the trans thread.

Apparently it was hilarious to them that my friend cancelled our Thanksgiving plans because they were uncomfortable with me being trans. They are...not good people.

Not that i think this needs explaining to anyone here, but back in the day the internet was just for lulz and having Serious Problems on the internet was seen as stupid and shameful and to be mocked because us white teen boys brave new world denizens were beyond such stupid things as ~political correctness~ or ~being offended~, i mean there's memes to laugh at dammit!

Then the rest of the (developed) world got online and the internet differentiated and became a lot less toxic white male-y and, well, some people just couldn't give that mentality up I guess.

Also I consider myself to have "arrived" as a proper goon on these here forums the day [that website we are talking about that i'm not sure if we can say the name of because there used to be a rule about it] quoted something I said and mocked me for being a dirty SJW :allears:

EDIT: hahah it word filters S J W to robocop I just noticed that, good job forums

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Fututor Magnus posted:

Yeah, no kidding. I'd just chalk them up to being pathetic goons but their's is the worst of toxic goon racism, transphobia, misogyny etc. The kind you won't see much of on GBS, because they were too toxic for GBS.


Many FYAD posters are openly anti-transphobia and anti-racist, that is, on twitter and the like. The rest I'm less convinced about how ~*ironic*~ their act is.

Ignoring the whole "ironic racism is still racism" thing, where are these twitter accounts? Because I have a trans friend who's only experience with SA was some off-site FYAD'ers mocking her for being trans, which completely colors anything I bring up or link from the rest of the site now :what:

EDIT: do you mean like, DocEvil / @fart / John Hendren? because he seems like a pretty cool guy and generally has good opinions on twitter.

Shame Boy has a new favorite as of 00:58 on Mar 20, 2016

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Curvature of Earth posted:

the kind of guy who rails against random branches of math

Have I ever mentioned that I have some weird phasia where (prime) numbers have inherent personalities to me, or like I have some weird form of empathy with them? Like 2 is great, a good friend, very good at everything all around, a role model as far as numbers go, but 3 is a real jerk, I hate 3. 3 is like the Ted Cruz of numbers, like they tried to make another 2 but something went horribly wrong and they got some hideous mutant that is trying to wreck all that is good and kind with the world.

... sorry I'll stop going off on my weird tangent.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Also I consider myself to have "arrived" as a proper goon on these here forums the day [that website we are talking about that i'm not sure if we can say the name of because there used to be a rule about it] quoted something I said and mocked me for being a dirty SJW :allears:
I'm on there a bunch, once with a very bad self deprecating joke about feminism, and a lot of times for not being sufficiently anti muslim or something.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Have I ever mentioned that I have some weird phasia where (prime) numbers have inherent personalities to me, or like I have some weird form of empathy with them? Like 2 is great, a good friend, very good at everything all around, a role model as far as numbers go, but 3 is a real jerk, I hate 3. 3 is like the Ted Cruz of numbers, like they tried to make another 2 but something went horribly wrong and they got some hideous mutant that is trying to wreck all that is good and kind with the world.

... sorry I'll stop going off on my weird tangent.
... have you tried some of the larger ones?

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Ignoring the whole "ironic racism is still racism" thing, where are these twitter accounts? Because I have a trans friend who's only experience with SA was some off-site FYAD'ers mocking her for being trans, which completely colors anything I bring up or link from the rest of the site now :what:

Don't remember who exactly it was, I think it was dendy crew who I talked to on twitter. I just checked their twitter again and I think that's who I was talking to, pretty clearly anti-racist and anti-transphobic. Perhaps check out some of the other big name FYAD shitposters and they might be of the same persuasion.

Of course, I'm talking about the current slew of FYAD posters. I don't know how many of them go back to the whole Ozma drama, but those who do are the kind of FYAD posters you're thinking of, I guess.


Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Not that i think this needs explaining to anyone here, but back in the day the internet was just for lulz and having Serious Problems on the internet was seen as stupid and shameful and to be mocked because us white teen boys brave new world denizens were beyond such stupid things as ~political correctness~ or ~being offended~, i mean there's memes to laugh at dammit!

Then the rest of the (developed) world got online and the internet differentiated and became a lot less toxic white male-y and, well, some people just couldn't give that mentality up I guess.

Also I consider myself to have "arrived" as a proper goon on these here forums the day [that website we are talking about that i'm not sure if we can say the name of because there used to be a rule about it] quoted something I said and mocked me for being a dirty skeleton :allears:

EDIT: hahah it word filters S J W to robocop I just noticed that, good job forums

Even before there were enough users on the internet for there to be a culture, the first internetters used to laugh at stuff like this. This, I think, is funny though.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Cingulate posted:

... have you tried some of the larger ones?

Yeah, just to see if I have some magical rain man ability to discern primes of any size I tried a few big ones and nope, nothing, however it seems to work pretty well up into the hundreds, and sometimes I just get a feeling that something's prime without any reason and check and yeah it is.

Admittedly a lot of this is just confirmation bias I'm sure but idk I certainly feel something when I look at a 2 but a 4 is just "something 2 built" and numbers larger than ~1000 are just nothing.

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Yeah, just to see if I have some magical rain man ability to discern primes of any size I tried a few big ones and nope, nothing, however it seems to work pretty well up into the hundreds, and sometimes I just get a feeling that something's prime without any reason and check and yeah it is.

Admittedly a lot of this is just confirmation bias I'm sure but idk I certainly feel something when I look at a 2 but a 4 is just "something 2 built" and numbers larger than ~1000 are just nothing.
I remember there are some supposedly objective tests for letter/color synesthesia, forgot how though. I think it's mostly about consistency?
But if you get something reliable for primes > 200, that's probably a pretty good sign you're not faking it and/or a math prodigy.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Cingulate posted:

I remember there are some supposedly objective tests for letter/color synesthesia, forgot how though. I think it's mostly about consistency?
But if you get something reliable for primes > 200, that's probably a pretty good sign you're not faking it and/or a math prodigy.

Yeah I don't think I have any legitimate synesthesia or anything but I can definitely go above 200. At the very least I'm not consciously faking it but it's entirely possible that it's just some weird learned ability :v:

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Fututor Magnus posted:

Of course, I'm talking about the current slew of FYAD posters. I don't know how many of them go back to the whole Ozma drama, but those who do are the kind of FYAD posters you're thinking of, I guess.

Can you clarify here? Which Ozma drama and what style of FYAD poster?

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


I want to hear more about the prime number personalities. It's neat. :allears:

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Tesseraction posted:

Can you clarify here? Which Ozma drama and what style of FYAD poster?

It's actually really stupid and uninteresting, mostly involving really lovely goons and their hateboners. I'm not the person to ask about FYAD and its posters in general, but some googling will probably get you somewhere (really lovely and disconcerting). As for Ozma, this should give you some idea about the kind of goons who care about that drama. It's just stupid and really not worth caring about in my honest opinion.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Fututor Magnus posted:

It's actually really stupid and uninteresting, mostly involving really lovely goons and their hateboners. I'm not the person to ask about FYAD and its posters in general, but some googling will probably get you somewhere (really lovely and disconcerting). As for Ozma, this should give you some idea about the kind of goons who care about that drama. It's just stupid and really not worth caring about in my honest opinion.

While we're doing this what happened to Eggplant Wizard? I always liked her but she seems to have been completely erased from the history of the forums.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

While we're doing this what happened to Eggplant Wizard? I always liked her but she seems to have been completely erased from the history of the forums.

She was doxxed and harassed in real life. Also, turned out to be an author of incest porn.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

Yeah, Eggplant Wizard got a lot of poo poo for writing Kindle porn, some of which was skeevy because apparently that's what sells on the Kindle porn market? She got a disproportionate amount of poo poo for it , though, compared to such sleazy mod luminaries as AxeManiac, who drew art of himselves surgically converting women into living toilets, and LooseChanj, the dude who carpet-bombed women on Awful Yearbook with trashy-rear end sex solicitations. (To be fair, LooseChanj was also a mod of the Book Barn, so not high-profile, but still.)

Zemyla
Aug 6, 2008

I'll take her off your hands. Pleasure doing business with you!
I also remember Brother Jonathan getting harassed off of being a mod, because some folks at FYAD didn't like that he liked trains and Latin jokes or something.

Avshalom
Feb 14, 2012

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HoAssHo
Mar 10, 2005

:love::love::love:
good body weird dick

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Antivehicular posted:

Yeah, Eggplant Wizard got a lot of poo poo for writing Kindle porn, some of which was skeevy because apparently that's what sells on the Kindle porn market? She got a disproportionate amount of poo poo for it

I think that was mostly because as a mod she had been cracking down on people writing porn? If I'm remembering right.

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Sorry he dumped you

Somebody has a new favorite as of 17:10 on Mar 20, 2016

Dr. Miracle
Feb 13, 2008

born to shart

Avshalom posted:

NWS image

So who's dong are we looking at here?

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

edit: ehh I won't continue derailing

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Dr. Miracle posted:

So who's dong are we looking at here?

His schtick of posting random things while drunk. (Or was it her? I forget)

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Quick check: The "Scott Alexander" on the SUPERHOT writing team is not the Scott Alexander who runs Slate Star Codex, right?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Woolie Wool posted:

His schtick of posting random things while drunk. (Or was it her? I forget)

Her. She's an Jewish Aussie.

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
Another instalment of St_Rev making idiotic statements to justify his hateboners against things, this time Gawker:

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/711150196936327168
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/711150519448965120

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
For someone who gets angry at moralizers, Rev uses "evil" more than most fundamentalists

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

The Vosgian Beast posted:

For someone who gets angry at moralizers, Rev uses "evil" more than most fundamentalists

He's the kind of guy who'd get angry at people who moralize against drug cartels.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Zemyla posted:

I also remember Brother Jonathan getting harassed off of being a mod, because some folks at FYAD didn't like that he liked trains and Latin jokes or something.

I think the Latin was Eggplant Wizard. The main actual complaint I remember about Brother Jonathan was that he took dumb things way too seriously.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Fututor Magnus posted:

Another instalment of St_Rev making idiotic statements to justify his hateboners against things, this time Gawker:

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/711150196936327168
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/711150519448965120
Who's AA in this context? Alcoholics Anonymous?

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Nessus posted:

Who's AA in this context? Alcoholics Anonymous?

Arthur Andersen

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Nessus posted:

Who's AA in this context? Alcoholics Anonymous?

Arthur Anderson

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
I am reading through a big chunk of this thread all at once and it's pretty funny with the new word filters (I still have another 50 pages to catch up).

e - After finishing the 50 pages I now see this is the 100th time this has been said.

Jippa has a new favorite as of 16:56 on Mar 21, 2016

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


The Lone Badger posted:

I think that was mostly because as a mod she had been cracking down on people writing porn? If I'm remembering right.

I think it was the creepy sex thread in Ask/Tell, but yeah, basically the pot calling their own gay werewolf mpreg son black.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
I just assume there is a long, weird, and sordid history for every event that happens in SA and most of the time it's better not to know.

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ianmacdo
Oct 30, 2012
Think intelligence is fixed? You’re more likely to overestimate your own
"A new study published in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology found that believing that intelligence is fixed makes people more likely to overestimate their own intelligence and therefore less likely to develop their own intellectual capacity."

When I read this, i instantly thought of this thread.

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