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max4me
Jun 15, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
I dont see whats soo cringe worthy about that.

Granted i was expecting the lady he sent with them on that vacation to put out at some point.

Shame on me

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We Got Us A Bread
Jul 23, 2007

Fojar38 posted:

basically all the "china invented x" stuff comes back to joseph needham, who was arguably the great originator of "british intellectual is irrationally in love with china"

like we are supposed to believe that the chinese invented/were the only ones to recognize the principles of rotational lift (despite this being something anyone can observe just by going outside and watching leaves fall) and that therefore all things that used it up to now, tyool 2016, are chinese inventions by proxy

god loving dammit

Mr. Needham also doesn't like it when you don't do car reviews properly.

Poland Spring
Sep 11, 2005

Jumpingmanjim posted:

http://needwant.com/p/visit-factories-china-entrepreneur/

Prepare for the most cringeworthy thing you will read all day China thread.

I just want to reach through the internet and punch these honkeys

Fasdar
Sep 1, 2001

Everybody loves dancing!
Seriously where are the human traffickers when you need them.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Jumpingmanjim posted:

http://needwant.com/p/visit-factories-china-entrepreneur/

Prepare for the most cringeworthy thing you will read all day China thread.

quote:

We’ve worked closely with factories in Asia for a several years now, but none of us had ever actually traveled there. All communication up to this point had been over email and Skype.

Kinda surprised they can do business this way. It has to be rare as hell they can find a company that won't dick them around without ever thinking that maybe they should see the place.

quote:

The flight was brutal. We flew St. Louis > Dallas > Hong Kong. 18 hours of total flying time, and 22hrs of total travel time including the layover.

I feel like this is their first time going abroad.

quote:

The 3 of us bought Nintendo 3DS’s so we could play a few games together...
While playing games, Marshall pointed out that if you told him as a kid that he’d be a businessman, flying to China when he was 25 — what you’d probably imagine was pretty far from how the 3 of us actually looked — sitting next to each other playing gameboys.

Aaaand they're Millenial manchildren.

quote:

He explained that taxi’s aren’t allowed to drive to the China border — it’s a much more involved process. Luckily he knew a driver that had a special license that lets him drive between China and Hong Kong. The only catch? It will cost ~$200. Probably too much, but we were ok with the convenience.

I'm not sure if they mean HKD or USD, but I feel like they mean USD.

quote:

Negotiating with someone is much easier when you’re in the same room with them. After talking for a few minutes we’d managed to negotiate around $3,000 off of our next order.

LOL. "We're such good 25 year old business men!"

The whole article needs to be in Millenial.jpg.

EDIT:

On another part of their site -

Haier fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Mar 22, 2016

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




How hard were they getting fleeced for one of their vendors to pay for a mini-vacation for them?

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

max4me posted:

I dont see whats soo cringe worthy about that.

Granted i was expecting the lady he sent with them on that vacation to put out at some point.

Shame on me

"Hi we're here to inspect the production line for our product."
"I'm so happy to see you, please enjoy an all expense paid trip to Hainan! Come back in a few days!"

If you don't see why that's dumb as gently caress, have you considered investing in bridges?

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

Haier posted:

Kinda surprised they can do business this way. It has to be rare as hell they can find a company that won't dick them around without ever thinking that maybe they should see the place.


I feel like this is their first time going abroad.


Aaaand they're Millenial manchildren.


I'm not sure if they mean HKD or USD, but I feel like they mean USD.


LOL. "We're such good 25 year old business men!"

The whole article needs to be in Millenial.jpg.

EDIT:

On another part of their site -



The entire first section of that webpage is so full of poo poo, these guys really don't know anything about anything.

"There’s little information available about what it’s actually like visiting factories in Asia."

Written in 2016! There have been blogs written by on-the-ground quality-testing firms and sourcing companies covering this exact subject (especially china) for 8-10 years, and easily searchable online. These guys prepared as much for their business and the trip as that group of guys that bought a patch of land in the Texas desert and tried to build poo poo on it (Texarrakis?).

gently caress me, they didn't even realize they needed visas until 2 weeks before the trip and they'd already booked tickets and everything

Edit: I'm getting a headache reading this. They planned to spend 4 days in HK adjusting to the time difference, but didn't actually make any plans for stuff to do/see there, at one point spending half a day locating and buying a soccer ball so they can play a little soccer near the hotel.

Christ it made me so happy when they arbitrarily decided to get 3 HK sim cards for their phones (despite sticking together constantly so really only needing 1), and then being shocked that these ad-supported free cards didn't work when they tried to use them in ANOTHER COUNTRY.

I think I'm actually coming back around on this blog and falling in love with it.

LentThem fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Mar 22, 2016

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Haier posted:

LOL. "We're such good 25 year old business men!"

"We saved $3000 on the next shipment and it only cost us $8000 in airfare and other travel expenses!"

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
And the $40,000 one site disappeared with.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnQYj9X38JM

They also did a podcast about the trip with more details about them having no idea what they're doing

"We realized we needed Visas about 2 weeks beforehand-"
"Well actually I knew about it, I just totally forgot"

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

LentThem posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnQYj9X38JM

They also did a podcast about the trip with more details about them having no idea what they're doing

"We realized we needed Visas about 2 weeks beforehand-"
"Well actually I knew about it, I just totally forgot"

I'm sure it will come up in their book, in the chapter "Unexpected business stuff that happens without knowing about it sometimes omg"



What is with millenials and needing to document every god drat thing like they are the first in the universe to experience it?

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Said every generation about the younger one since the beginning of generations

Poland Spring
Sep 11, 2005

Haier posted:


What is with millenials and needing to document every god drat thing like they are the first in the universe to experience it?

It isn't millenials it's the same as the rich Chinese who come over here that we keep talking about. People with money abroad can be lovely especially with lack of exposure to the culture they're visiting

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Lol I am reading Poorly Made in China, published in 2009. These scrubs should be expected to suffer if they prefer blogs over books.

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Dumbasses posted:

We ended up spending the next 16 days clicking ads during down time to keep our data topped up.

~*~businessmen~*~

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

theflyingexecutive posted:

Said every generation about the younger one since the beginning of generations

Oh cool, the billionth time someone has also said this. We're tape loop machines around here.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

In this instance chinar is legitimately superior to the west

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Haier posted:

If your dude come close to me
He gon' wanna ride off in a ghost with me (I'll make him do it)
I might let your boy chauffeur me
But he gotta eat the booty like groceries

Same, but with Chinese groceries

Helios Grime
Jan 27, 2012

Where we are going we won't need shirts
Pillbug

Oberleutnant posted:

In this instance chinar is legitimately superior to the west

Saw those in Munich already too, years ago. Now we just need to see who's culture had those earlier.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Helios Grime posted:

Saw those in Munich already too, years ago. Now we just need to see who's culture had those earlier.
6,000 years ago Chiner already had an invention called a bucket into which one could vomit, and these were often placed next to lavatories for this purpose. Please, don't insult the 7,000 years of chinese culture and history.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


...a repurposed ostomate sink?

smooth jazz
May 13, 2010

Singapore is a poo poo town.
The people here think they're God's gift to asia.
Would rather live in China.
rant over

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Chaos ensues as Leonardo DiCaprio descends on Beijing


By Li Jingjing Source:Global Times Published: 2016-3-21 20:13:01


Leonardo DiCaprio shrugs his shoulders after being taught some Chinese phrases at a press conference for The Revenant in Beijing on Sunday. Photo: CFP

As a film reporter, I've been to dozens of press conferences for films and seen numerous Hollywood superstars, but the conference for The Revenant's China debut attended by Leonardo DiCaprio on Sunday was one of the toughest press conferences I've ever attended.

The chaos of the day actually started long before the press conference even began. It pretty much kicked off as soon as DiCaprio stepped off the plane.

Early morning start

The Chinese mainland's infamous paparazzi team - Quanmingxingtan, which has exposed the secrets of several major celebrities in China over the past few years - was waiting for the star at the airport at 6 am on Sunday. According to the team, a cavalcade of black cars were lined up outside the airport gates where they could block the media's view of the actor.

About a dozen cars full of journalists tailed DiCaprio's car as he was escorted to his hotel. According to Quanmingxingtan, it was at this point that DiCaprio suddenly changed his plans. Instead of going to the Rosewood Hotel where he was supposed to stay, his car took him to the Park Hyatt Hotel where the conference was being held.

At the Park Hyatt, bodyguards assigned to DiCaprio went ahead to lock down the parking lot and ensure no one could get in.

The media was finally allowed into the venue at 1 pm.

However, unlike other press conferences I've attended where press normally checks in at a reception desk, journalists were kept waiting outside the meeting hall on the third floor of Park Hyatt as security blocked the door and shouted for reporters to get in line. Staff was on hand to check each reporter's name and credentials and allow us entry one at a time.

It felt like I was at a train station during the Spring Festival holidays, the busiest time of the year for railways as millions of people try to make their way home.

After we entered the hall, we had to go through a metal detector and no liquids were permitted to be brought inside. It felt pretty much like heading through security at the airport. I began to wonder if perhaps it was US President Obama who had arrived instead of a Hollywood actor.

Going off script

The conference finally began at 2:30 pm, yet the entire conference felt incredibly awkward.

The host wanted to teach the Oscar winner some Chinese, so he taught DiCaprio how to say ni hao (hello). For some reason however, the host didn't feel that was enough and continued to have DiCaprio repeat phrases in Chinese - wo ai Beijing (I love Beijing) and wo ai zhongguo (I love China), without explaining what he was having the actor say. Apparently a good sport, DiCaprio parroted the host for a bit and then just shrugged his shoulders as if to say "whatever."

DiCaprio was also presented with a piece of Chinese calligraphy that read tiandao chouqin (Heaven rewards the diligent), surely a reference to DiCaprio finally winning an Oscar after years of waiting.

Another gift presented to the actor consisted of a giant human-sized Oscar made from thousands of roses painted in gold. Apparently made by fans, it was on display during the entire conference.

To be honest though, the trophy was really creepy… like the wicker statue from the movie The Wicker Man. The same one in which Nicolas Cage is burned alive.

The host said DiCaprio would take it back to the US, but I doubt that's where it will end up.

The Q&A section was chaos. Although there were apparently headsets provided for simultaneous interpretation they must have neglected to tell DiCaprio about them because he didn't put one on. This led to journalists asking their questions to a baffled DiCaprio, who of course had no idea what they were saying. For some reason the bilingual host chose not to translate even though things were getting increasingly awkward for everyone involved.

Finally, an interpreter was found but this ended up using up most of the time for the Q&A session. In the end, there was only enough time to ask around five questions.

Considering DiCaprio's record on environmental issues one of these questions was about environmental protection. In answer the actor revealed he has confidence in China's ability to lead the pack when it comes to environmental protection.

"I really think that China can be the hero of the environmental movement, they can be the hero of the climate change movement," he said.

Of course the lack of time wasn't the only drama involved in the Q&A session.

Like many conferences, who were allowed to ask questions and what they could ask had been approved ahead of time. Yet apparently one reporter decided to go off script and ask a question that wasn't on the list. According to Quanmingxingtan, this extra question upset the Chinese distributors of the film so much that they canceled the reporter's invitation to the red carpet premiere of The Revenant in Beijing as well as his one-to-one interview with DiCaprio.

The offending question?

"Leo, what do you think about the weather in Beijing today?"

Leo, if you don't feel like to coming to China again, I understand…



http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/975048.shtml?from=timeline&isappinstalled=0

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Out of morbid curiosity, what are the odds the "free" SIM card/app pillaged their personal data for all it was worth?

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Blistex posted:

My wife was just telling me that her cousin (rich aunt and uncle's daughter) is going to go to the US to get a degree. She's rich, she knows it, and thus never bothered to apply herself in school, and bombed the Chinese SAT's, so there is pretty much no hope of her getting into a decent university there (they're rich, but not "Coal Boss" rich). So the rich aunt asked my wife to ask me what were some good US universities that she could go to. My first question was, "Why bother sending her to a University for 4 years in the US if she can almost literally not speak anything more than "hello" and count to ten?" (her father has already made arrangements for her to work in a moderately high position in the Nickel mine he is a manager in).

Their reply was that she needs a US degree. . .

So I'm debating whether or not I should tell them to send her to one of those diploma mill places where she is 100% going to get a diploma if the cheque clears, or say, "Anything less than Harvard, Princeton or Yale is unacceptable".

Suggestions? (legit or comedy option)

Question for the thread: assuming she gets into a US university are the odds of her parents using her to max out their foreign dollar withdrawals as close to 100% as I think they are?

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Recently a Chinese family moved into the building I live in. It's all rentals, and it's a really quiet middle class Finnish neighbourhood. The Chinese family have had some difficulty adapting to life in Finland, or rather their precious little emperor has.

You see, whereas most Finnish children either play at home, at a friend's place or the playgrounds most buildings have, this inventive little chap likes to play in the stairwell. Most days when I come home the door to their apartment will be open and the kid will be playing on the stairs, which by itself is not something I'd want a ~5 year old child doing because it's pretty dangerous.

But that's not the worst of it. No, see the games this kid likes to play involve beating the walls and railings in the stairwell with branches and pieces of wood until the whole landing is covered in sticks and splinters. Or alternatively carrying buckets of sand and dirt in and dumping them on the stairs and landings. I bet the people who clean these stairwells three times a week are just LOVING all of this.

There have already been other unpleasant instances as well, like the kid hitting an old lady's dog with one of his playing sticks.

I suspect they won't be living here for long because a number of people have already complained about them to the supervisor, as evidenced by notices reminding "everyone" about the rules of conduct expected from tenants here. No effect, naturally.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/n_gough/status/712161418712190977

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
This looks like a Nigerian prince scam

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Mechafunkzilla posted:

She was trying to have sex with you hth

Which is why I had sex with her. :quagmire:

Shifty Pony posted:

Question for the thread: assuming she gets into a US university are the odds of her parents using her to max out their foreign dollar withdrawals as close to 100% as I think they are?

Surprisingly, this is probably not going to happen. Her mother is really not impressed with the US and doesn't want to live there (after going on one lovely bus tour around New York). If her mother were to move there she would be missing out on the only thing that gives her life any meaning/joy . . . showing off her expensive things to her non-rich relatives and slightly less-rich friends.

**Thanks for the Serious/Comedy University Suggestions**

My wife is telling them USC in LA is their best option, so she will probably get the "Standard Chinese Foreign Student" experience there. Honestly, I would be surprised if she even made it a full year, as the daughter is not smart, can't speak any useful english, and they are not coal boss rich, so she will probably be one of the "poor" students there.

serious norman
Dec 13, 2007

im pickle rick!!!!

smooth jazz posted:

Singapore is a poo poo town.
The people here think they're God's gift to asia.
Would rather live in China.
rant over

Snake Spirit Boy spotted

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Jumpingmanjim posted:

http://needwant.com/p/visit-factories-china-entrepreneur/

Prepare for the most cringeworthy thing you will read all day China thread.

these guys suck. The correct response to being sent on a "vacation" right after spotting mistakes in the production is to wonder how much they are overcharging you and why they want to get rid of you.

"Having a room on a floor that starts with the number 8 is so desirable that they just decided to add 8 before every number. Genius!"

Its cute how they think its quaint where I see stupid

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Mar 22, 2016

Tupperwarez
Apr 4, 2004

"phphphphphphpht"? this is what you're going with?

you sure?

Jumpingmanjim posted:

http://needwant.com/p/visit-factories-china-entrepreneur/

Prepare for the most cringeworthy thing you will read all day China thread.

We've finally done it. We've found the Ultimate Rubes. The kind of rubes that give conmen Viagra erections. I mean holy mother of pussy, the sudden Hainan vacation alone...

And these guys sell mattresses or some poo poo? Is that peculiar strain of tech industry 'I have no idea how the real world functions' idiocy spreading now?

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Der Shovel posted:

Recently a Chinese family moved into the building I live in. It's all rentals, and it's a really quiet middle class Finnish neighbourhood. The Chinese family have had some difficulty adapting to life in Finland, or rather their precious little emperor has.

You see, whereas most Finnish children either play at home, at a friend's place or the playgrounds most buildings have, this inventive little chap likes to play in the stairwell. Most days when I come home the door to their apartment will be open and the kid will be playing on the stairs, which by itself is not something I'd want a ~5 year old child doing because it's pretty dangerous.

But that's not the worst of it. No, see the games this kid likes to play involve beating the walls and railings in the stairwell with branches and pieces of wood until the whole landing is covered in sticks and splinters. Or alternatively carrying buckets of sand and dirt in and dumping them on the stairs and landings. I bet the people who clean these stairwells three times a week are just LOVING all of this.

There have already been other unpleasant instances as well, like the kid hitting an old lady's dog with one of his playing sticks.

I suspect they won't be living here for long because a number of people have already complained about them to the supervisor, as evidenced by notices reminding "everyone" about the rules of conduct expected from tenants here. No effect, naturally.

Keeping the door open is a classic nong thing. The only thing you can do is print a bunch of business cards that read "Taiwan number #1", throw one in every time you walk past their door and then slam the door in. This won't make them move away, but it'll give you some satisfaction.

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe

Fauxtool posted:

these guys suck. The correct response to being sent on a "vacation" right after spotting mistakes in the production is to wonder how much they are overcharging you and why they want to get rid of you.

"Having a room on a floor that starts with the number 8 is so desirable that they just decided to add 8 before every number. Genius!"

Its cute how they think its quaint where I see stupid

They also don't know how to eat shrimp apparently?

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

serious norman posted:

Snake Spirit Boy spotted

That is clearly a Thin Men.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012



quote:

The factory boss on his hoverboard during our meeting.

I'm glad they found a fellow manchild on their Chinar adventure.

Darkman Fanpage fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Mar 22, 2016

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Darkman Fanpage posted:




I'm glad they found a fellow manchild on their Chinar adventure.

putting green, massage chair, fishtank, probable bmw SUV outside.

My uncle used to dress exactly like him and own all that stuff in his office and recently fled to the US with all his money.

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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Darkest Auer posted:

Keeping the door open is a classic nong thing. The only thing you can do is print a bunch of business cards that read "Taiwan number #1", throw one in every time you walk past their door and then slam the door in. This won't make them move away, but it'll give you some satisfaction.

From the Chinese word nongmin 农民, meaning "farmer". Uneducated Chinese person, Chinese peasants, Chinese white trash.

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