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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




It's not worth protesting anything in this dumb loving province anymore

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Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

the talent deficit posted:

that has to be the worst appointment possible

Worse than this one? http://canadians.org/blog/former-capp-vice-president-now-chief-staff-trudeaus-natural-resources-minister

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

lmao

where is bunnyofdoom and pinterest mom

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Drunk Canuck posted:

Um, you BC posters should probably start a protest on this

to whom? the fuckheads in this province will just elect the BC Libs all over again.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
all you dumb motherfuckers advocating for the working class in BC

this is what you get

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Cultural Imperial posted:

lmao

where is bunnyofdoom and pinterest mom

No shills required, here's the straight talking answer from a straight talking guy.

quote:

Steadfast in his commitment to getting Canadian oil to market, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said putting pipelines in the ground will help pay for the country's transition to a greener future.

Opening the Globe 2016 Leadership Summit in Vancouver on Wednesday — which deals with tackling climate change and sustainability in business — the Liberal leader dodged questions about whether building controversial energy projects like the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain expansion and Energy East pipeline would directly contravene his commitment at COP21 in Paris to keep global warming below two degrees this century.

“We want the low-carbon economy that continues to provide good jobs and great opportunities for all Canadians," he told a crowd of hundreds of business, civil society, and science innovators.

"To get there, we need to make smart strategic investments in clean growth and new infrastructure, but we must also continue to generate wealth from our abundant natural resources to fund this transition to a low-carbon economy.”

MatchaZed
Feb 14, 2010

We Can Do It!


Ikantski posted:

No shills required, here's the straight talking answer from a straight talking guy.

Man, liberals really do gotta lib. Jesus.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
all y'all motherfuckers who voted liberal where r u now

explain yourselves assholes

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
also where is your legal weed lmao

Melian Dialogue
Jan 9, 2015

NOT A RACIST
Anyone interested in making an effort post on why pipelines would be a worse choice than the current rail/truck infrastructure that's currently moving oil westward? Is the problem here that the pipeline would be so efficient that it would essentially be stimulating more oil production in order to fulfill orders through the pipeline itself? If thats the case, whats the current amount of oil being transported via rail and road, and what is the projected oil transportation by pipeline?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

My general take on pipelines:
They absolutely are safer (when actually maintained and inspected) and better and cheaper than transporting by train. It lowers the cost of doing business and creates jobs in the oil sector.
But I don't want jobs created in the oil sector, the economy can take a back seat to the environment. Also a few major spills can hurt the general population far more than the small amount of wealth that ever "trickles down" to us.

A fully nationalized oil industry pumping through nationalized pipelines all operating on best-in-world environmental and safety standards as part of some sort of energy plan on the national level: maybe. Subsidizing private oil profits in exchange for public environmental costs, gently caress off.

Demon_Corsair
Mar 22, 2004

Goodbye stealing souls, hello stealing booty.

Cultural Imperial posted:

all y'all motherfuckers who voted liberal where r u now

explain yourselves assholes

The liberal was a less bad option then the conservative since the NDP candidate was a joke.

I had no illusions that this time the libs wouldn't lib, so can't say I'm surprised.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
remember this the next election and stop loving voting

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Ha ha ha ha ha

Joe Oliver posted:

In their single-minded determination to overturn almost every Conservative initiative, perhaps the Liberals envisage Prime Minister Justin Trudeau as Han Solo battling the Galactic Empire (not to imply that anyone in the PMO resembles Han’s co-pilot, Chewbacca — superficial similarities notwithstanding). It really does not matter whether the Liberals’ actions are motivated by politics, ideology or antipathy. What matters is the impact these policy reversals have on Canadians.

Of course, reasonable people can have legitimate differences on a variety of policies. For example, Canadian attitudes have evolved regarding the legalization of marijuana, provided the law protects youth who are vulnerable to cognitive impairment from its excessive use. And while the RCMP have solved 90 per cent of the cases of murdered and missing aboriginal women, many people still support a national inquiry because it responds to First Nations’ concerns. However, other policy reversals are very hard to justify in terms of our economic self-interest, international responsibilities or just plain common sense. Let me cite a few.

The most recent Liberal rollback relates to 2012 legislation that raised the eligibility age for old age security (OAS) from 65 to 67. That would have saved Ottawa $10.8 billion a year once the plan was fully implemented in 2030. The Conservatives’ change was designed to respond to two dynamics: retirees are living longer and an aging population will rapidly drive down the ratio of workers to pensioners from 4.4 to one today, to 2.5 to one. To otherwise keep OAS viable, taxes will have to be raised or other government programs cut back. This is a classic case of good policy but bad politics. It took political courage for former prime minister Stephen Harper to do the right thing.

Another example: In the face of an overarching strategic challenge to diversify our energy markets, the Liberal government has thrown a spanner into the works of independent and comprehensive regulatory reviews. Broadening the scope of resource project reviews to include upstream emissions will add to cost, delays and uncertainty. It will inject politics into the review process and provide additional opportunities for opponents to kill resource projects. It may be aimed at pleasing environmentalists and winning greater “buy in,” but it should be obvious by now that some groups unalterably oppose every pipeline project. Far from being assuaged, they are feeling empowered.

It also ignores the alternatives — oil may still be transported by rail or imported, with higher emissions — and imposes a double standard on the resource sector. Why make pipeline approvals conditional on greenhouse gas emissions and not other construction projects, like a high-rise building or an automobile plant? And what about the downstream emissions of so many other sectors?

Then there is the controversial decision to withdraw our CF-18 fighter jets from the bombing mission against the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant in favour of tripling the number of troops providing local training. Unfortunately, this will increase the risk to our military men and women in harm’s way, reduce our impact on the ground, hurt our international reputation as a reliable ally, and increase the cost of the mission. Otherwise, it’s a fine decision.

When anti-Conservative ideology or political correctness override common sense, the result can be a moral affront that compromises public safety. Such is the government’s decision to reverse the law depriving a dual citizen of Canadian citizenship if he were found guilty of terrorism, treason, or espionage. Minister John McCallum keeps repeating “a Canadian is a Canadian.” However, citizenship can still be revoked if it was obtained by fraud and the federal court can still remove the citizenship of those involved in organized crime, war crimes and crimes against humanity. Yet Canadian citizenship has now been reinstated for Zakaria Amara, the ringleader of the Toronto 18 terror cell that plotted to bomb the Toronto Stock Exchange and kill hundreds of people. He was sentenced to life imprisonment, but is eligible for parole this year. Clearly, his offence is more egregious and he poses a greater risk to Canadian society than someone lying on a citizenship application. Frankly, the government’s action is baffling.

Why the Liberals want to kill everything the Conservative government accomplished cannot be fully explained by a policy wonk or a political analyst. Compulsively doing the opposite of your predecessor is a poor basis for sound decision-making. Even during this glorious honeymoon of theirs, the Liberals should be careful not to alienate too many voters. There’s just seven per cent of the electorate between the Conservative level of support that brought Stephen Harper a majority in 2011 and what the Liberals needed for their majority last year. Alienate just enough Canadians and suddenly a Force Awakens. That, you might recall, is the Star Wars movie where — spoiler alert — things do not exactly end well for Han Solo.

Joe Oliver is the former minister of finance.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

When did Star-Wars become such an important part of Canadian Politics?

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
bc is quickly taking over from alberta as canadas worst province

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

joe oliver is clearly in touch wih today's youth

velvet milkman
Feb 13, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Can't wait for this thread's undoubtedly positive reaction to the federal budget today at 4:00PM!

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes
#BelgiumLetsTalk

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

RBC posted:

joe oliver is clearly in touch wih today's youth

:shrug: I figured the OAS change was reasonable.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

RBC posted:

joe oliver is clearly in touch wih today's youth

I think some of those criticisms are fair, but maybe not from a minister of a government who were intent on undoing Liberal initiatives and hamstringing Canadian governance.

Here's some things to talk about other than the Belgium bombings:

quote:

Good Tuesday morning to you.

Some breaking news is still developing this morning, as two explosions rattled the departures hall at Brussels Airport this morning. The airport is in the process of being evacuated, all flights have been grounded and all incoming air and rail traffic diverted. While details are sparse at this time, the BBC is reporting an unconfirmed number of casualties and that gunfire and shouting preceded the explosions. There has also been a explosion at Brussels' Maelbeek metro station, near the EU buildings. The city's metro system has been halted. These explosions come just 4 days after Salah Abdeslam, the main suspect in the November Paris attacks, was arrested in Brussels.

Turning our attention back home, we'll wish you Happy Budget Day. Bill Morneau’s new shoes are ready to go and the lockups will begin in a few hours, offering up the first, albeit secret, glimpses of the Liberal government’s first budget. As CBC’s Dean Beeby reported earlier this month, budget day has evolved into quite an elaborate affair.

When the finance minister delivers his speech this afternoon in the House, the expectation is some Liberal campaign promises won’t be in there. CP’s Joan Bryden says while it will make it easier for jobless Canadians to collect employment insurance benefits and target some additional measures at workers in energy-producing provinces hit hard by the plunge in oil prices, the budget won’t deliver on EI system reforms, including promised improvements to parental and compassionate care benefits. That said, it’s year one and the economy hasn’t exactly been holding up its end of the election promise bargain.

Here’s five things to watch for as the spending plan is unveiled.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has vowed there will be ‘historic investments’ for First Nations announced today (ed: just not the ones promised during the election), with funds allocated for education, housing, child welfare and water quality, especially for First Nations living on reserves. Here’s more on what First Nations leaders will have an eye out for.

Among those not expecting to find much under the budget tree: aid agencies. It’s not so much that they’re getting a lump of coal, but the Conservatives froze aid spending in 2010 and there’s little indication that’s going to change -- at least not today. “While they hope there will be more money in subsequent budgets, the organizations say the government must at least lay out a long-term plan on how Canada intends to reach the United Nations target for development spending of 0.7 per cent of gross national income,” reports CP’s Mike Blanchfield.

Given that Trudeau is their former chair, Katimavik’s organizers and alumni are hoping he helps breath new life into the volunteer youth service program that had its funding choked off by the Conservatives four years ago.

A lawsuit filed in Federal Court yesterday alleges that Foreign Minister Stéphane Dion is acting illegally by issuing permits to allow the export of combat vehicles to Saudi Arabia. As the Globe’s Steven Chase reports, a group led by University of Montreal professor Daniel Turp oppose the $15-billion arms deal and is taking the federal government to court to try and make sure the vehicles never find their way to Riyadh.

Bombardier is defending its plans to send more jobs out of Canada while expecting Canadian taxpayers to send a bailout its way. As the Globe reports, the aerospace firm insists “its goal of cutting costs on the aircraft has nothing to do with its billion-dollar aid request from Ottawa.” Not fair, says Conservative MP Maxime Bernier.

Watching all of this ever so closely are Manitoba’s Liberal MPs. Touting a tit-for-tat, they say should Ottawa decide to bail out Bombardier, there’s no reason the government shouldn’t also help their province’s aerospace sector and the 400 employees laid off by Aveos. The Hill Times has more.

Here and there:

Question period in the House of Commons at 2:15 p.m.
The Economic Club of Canada pays tribute to International Women's Day by providing a platform for six female trailblazers to discuss their personal stories in life, business, and what they have accomplished as leaders to help bridge the gender gap.
Statistics Canada releases a study entitled: The Changing Landscape of Metropolitan Areas, 1971 to 2011.
Auditor general Michael Ferguson appears at Commons public accounts committee hearing witnesses on Chapter 5, Canadian Armed Forces Housing, of the Fall 2015 Report of the Auditor General.
Press conference by key members of the European Parliament who are responsible for the recommendation of the ratification of Canada-EU Trade Agreement.
Gov. Gen. David Johnston receives the letters for credence of six new heads of mission (Gabon, Cyprus, Iraq, Mauritius, Botswana, Kyrgyz Republic).
Filippo Grandi, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, discusses the changing responses to the global refugee crisis at Carleton University.
Finance Minister Bill Morneau tables the federal budget at 4 p.m.
Reaction from various interest groups to the federal budget. Among the groups reacting: Broadbent Institute, Canadian Federation of Students, HeathCareCAN, and the Retail Council of Canada.
Officials from Environment and Climate Change Canada appear at Senate energy, the environment and natural resources committee to discuss the effects of transitioning to a low carbon economy.
Gov. Gen. David Johnston and Mrs. Sharon Johnston attend the presentation of the Key to the City of Ottawa to Beverley McLachlin, Chief Justice of Canada.
In Montreal, Marine Lepen, leader of France's Front national party, holds a news conference.

For Cubans, the most fascinating part of Barack Obama’s visit isn’t necessarily that he’s the first American president to set foot in their country in 88 years. What really left them stunned was watching U.S. journalists throw tough questions at Obama and grill President Raul Castro on human rights. Publicly questioning authority isn’t something you see there every day and it gave a whole new meaning to ‘must-see TV.’ “This is pure history and I never thought I’d see something like this,” said Marlene Pino, adding it was “extraordinary.”

Meanwhile, the FBI says it may have found a way to unlock the San Bernardino attacker's iPhone without Apple's assistance. The BBC has that story.

On the campaign trail, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump offered up what could be a preview of things to come. They both addressed the American Israel Public Affairs Committee yesterday and traded fire in the process. She promised "to take the US-Israel alliance to the next level," while attacking Trump’s neutral stance. It was the businessman’s first major foreign policy speech and some deemed it to be completely devoid of substance. While there was no talk of walls for once, Trump did vow to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem if he was elected.

In Featured Opinion this morning:
  • It's budget day and the start of a new chapter for the Canadian political conversation — or at least a return to an old one. After decades of politicians paying lip service to beating down public debt, the Keynesians are back in the driver's seat.
  • Tasha Kheiriddin says the Liberals have benefitted from a hazy public understanding of the meaning of the word "infrastructure", which sees to be elastic enough to encompass everything from major bridge repairs to new daycares. What seems to be missing from the Trudeau government's deficit-spending plans, she says, is a clear focus on infrastructure spending that would boost Canada's anaemic economic productivity.
  • Paul Barber distills the latest polls out of Manitoba down to this: Barring a miracle, the New Democrats are cooked, the Conservatives are headed for government and the Liberals look set to pick up whatever's left.
  • And here's Bloomberg's Margaret Carlson on how the Republican Party allowed Donald Trump to make its brand a subsidiary of his own.

John Oliver, however, has plenty to say about walls and took his time tearing down Trump’s.

Have yourself a great day.

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International

Brussels Zaventem airport blasts cause casualties (BBC News)
Cuba visit: Obama and Castro spar over human rights (BBC News)
Obama to end Cuba trip with dissident meeting, baseball and hope (Reuters)
U.N. lifts North Korea sanctions on four ships at China's request (Reuters)
Trump vows strong relationship with Israel, takes fire from rivals at AIPAC (CBC News)
FBI says it may have found way to unlock San Bernardino shooter’s iPhone (Toronto Star)

National

Trudeau promet un budget fidèle aux promesses électorales [Trudeau budget true to election promises] (La Presse)
Justice Ian Binnie cuts senators' expenses owed in 10 of 14 cases (CBC News)
Canada’s Saudi arms deal violates Geneva Conventions, lawsuit argues (The Globe and Mail)
DND inquiry into sex misconduct case still under review 14 months later (The Globe and Mail)

Atlantic

$32 million federal boost for N.L. from stabilization fund (CBC News)

Ontario

Ontario Liberals blasted for ‘shady’ Ornge lease of helicopter from firm accused of kickbacks (National Post)

Prairies

Tories promise to tackle long wait times in Manitoba hospitals (CBC News)
Manitoba PCs hold lead in new poll as NDP struggles to gain traction (CBC News)
$13 minimum wage, 48-seat legislature among Sask. Liberal platform promises (CBC News)

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Well I guess I can look forward to 4 years of lower taxes while Pallister bans Halloween and lays off all of the nurses and teachers..

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Ikantski posted:

#BelgiumLetsTalk

It depends: were the attackers fully sane? If not, we should probably just forgive them and apologise for not treating their sadbrains with greater sensitivity and understanding.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Lolololol

Geoid
Oct 18, 2005
Just Add Water

DariusLikewise posted:

Well I guess I can look forward to 4 years of lower taxes while Pallister bans Halloween and lays off all of the nurses and teachers..

And privatizes Manitoba Hydro, to encourage competition of course.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

DariusLikewise posted:

Well I guess I can look forward to 4 years of lower taxes while Pallister bans Halloween and lays off all of the nurses and teachers..

I'm going to save 4 years worth of the 1% tax cut so I can afford the first 6 months of privatized Hydro bills.

It's too bad Selinger is useless too because what he should have done in the dying days of his government was to pass a parallel law to Filmon's ridiculous tax law that said that no government can privatize hydro without calling a referendum either.

InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Mar 22, 2016

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

This is really really common. My linkedin has a stack of guys who have MBAs and went to Harvard (where they did not get their mba, but rather some certificate). They of course list Harvard as their education.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Jordan7hm posted:

This is really really common. My linkedin has a stack of guys who have MBAs and went to Harvard (where they did not get their mba, but rather some certificate). They of course list Harvard as their education.

Yeah, you can get UCLA certificates now too for taking courses that take a few hours. I think it's just a matter of the sponsor of the course paying out UCLA enough. A few big tech companies will now certify you for learning some basic stuff about their software and you get a certificate from UCLA for it.

InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Mar 22, 2016

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
Rob Ford died

flashman
Dec 16, 2003

only the good die young

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

bunnyofdoom posted:

Rob Ford died

That's too bad. He wasn't a good person, but he didn't deserve to die of cancer.

Holy Jesus, he was only 46? I always thought he was mid-50s at least.

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

bunnyofdoom posted:

Rob Ford died

was coming to post this.

Good night sweet prince

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

PT6A posted:

That's too bad. He wasn't a good person, but he didn't deserve to die of cancer.

Holy Jesus, he was only 46? I always thought he was mid-50s at least.

Binge drinking and doing crack have their price

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
Fat cancer is generally not detected until too late when you're obese.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I'd like Rob Ford memorial bike lanes.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Frosted Flake posted:

I'd like Rob Ford memorial bike lanes.

A fine way to honor his memory.

I feel sad for his kids.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I'm glad to see this thread has grown up a little since Jim Flaherty died.

Tan Dumplord
Mar 9, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Sadly, some of us still advocate leveling entire villages.

Heavy neutrino
Sep 16, 2007

You made a fine post for yourself. ...For a casualry, I suppose.

PT6A posted:

I'm glad to see this thread has grown up a little since Jim Flaherty died.

Nah it's just hard to mercilessly mock someone who clearly had psychological issues.

I can't bring myself to do it. Remember to exercise and eat well so you don't end up crippled or dead before your 50s, everyone. See a therapist if you feel depressed.

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Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1p0mrG-m9U

The Rob Ford memorial video has just been posted.

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