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Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

XK posted:

I wonder, when EightAce referred to whale as "Wales", was there intentionally on ulterior meaning?

Also, as to EightAce's credentials: I had a couple of PMs with Derek a few months back about EightAce's identity. I asked him about a few specific completely circumstantial pieces of evidence I discerned. Without giving any real details of our 3-4 message conversation, he denied my wild conjecture of it being a certain person I suggested, but he did back EightAce's legitimacy in an absolute fashion which I believed. That, along with the track record of his predictive posts in this thread, and the fact that such a large dysfunctional operation would likely have disgruntled leaks, leads me to believe EightAce is very likely legit.

I dunno. EightAce is awesome, but he's got some real quirks in his writing that I'd usually explain with dyslexia

Some of it is so odd though that I half suspect he's consciously doing it, like him always writing "Stimporer" and such

I'm a supporter of any conspiracy theories you guys think up so go ahead

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Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

ManofManyAliases posted:

He's not great. But there was a specific part of the book that was fantastic at getting you to think. I'd prefer not to ruin it for others here, and a spoiler's too long. If anyone's interested, pm me and I'll tell you.

:crossarms:

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



ewe2 posted:

Alas! I have not 4k in disposable income so was unable to buy jpegsbring you this feast of parp until now! But perhaps it was for the best, for I laboured upon the parp and parped more of it. Given the travails of late, I joined the healing power of reggae with the stark beauty of Neil Young's songy stuff, and there was much desperate stabs at humourrejoicing.




* There are 17 parps in the lyrics but the song has more, how many can you count?
* SPECIAL FEATURE: Taking back it back for goondom, a royalty-free personal goondeyadda parp singalong WITH HANDCLAPS for Mr Derek Smart Esq, safe from internet supervision. Sing it for your favourite goon or SC shill! The list is so long...
* Said singalong contains an awful attempt at toasting, I sound like Grover the muppet doing Billy Rasta Skank. It's the thought that counts, and I laughed a lot while doing it.
* ManofManyAliases: learn to laugh at yourself. It will set you free. You've already lost the money.
* Hey paid CIG reader: play this in the office, get a singalong going.

:allears:

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

I've never read Forever War, I'll try reading it this weekend

forever war is tight

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

I dunno. EightAce is awesome, but he's got some real quirks in his writing that I'd usually explain with dyslexia

Some of it is so odd though that I half suspect he's consciously doing it, like him always writing "Stimporer" and such

I'm a supporter of any conspiracy theories you guys think up so go ahead

Writing style could conceivably help you spot a mole, so I think it's an intentional affectation.

D1E
Nov 25, 2001


I kind of wish now that we had let fuzzknot build herself up into street fighting Sandi.

I would pay $4K to see that.

grimcreaper
Jan 7, 2012

1500 posted:

God I hated Hyperion, that guy is just in love with the words and not the story. Words should be for enhancing the story and the world, not for word vomiting onto the page, read a poem if you want that.

Edit: and this is coming from someone that loves reading shakespeare.

Hyperion has been my favorite set of stories for a very long time.

Now... were you talking about the same book, or Hyperion by John Keats the poembookthing?

TODD BONZALEZ
Jul 3, 2010




Eonwe posted:

is anyone else savoring EightAce's post

I don't mean think its a good post, I mean actually savoring it

yes

Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:

1500 posted:

“Since brevity is the soul of wit / And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes, I will be brief…”

Has always been rather ironic coming from Shakespeare.

Edit: perhaps a better explanation is required. Perhaps its the difference between someone that knows how to tell a story, and a person that likes to hear himself tell one.

If you want to be witty, you have to be swift and concise. The more belated your delivery, the less witty it is. That's pretty much it.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

not quite in the same league as some of these suggestions (but definitely a huge step up from others), I quite enjoyed Ken MacLeod's Fall Revolution series as fun reading- basically explorations of future post-(apocalyptic) singularity societies oriented around different political philosophies from techno-utopian socialism to bitcoiner fever dream anarcho-capitalism

e: which is probably underselling the fun a bit- IIRC the socialist human society that runs the solar system functions on locked down nano-tech Babbage engines because the insane post-singularity AIs floating around Saturn keep spamming the solar system with viruses that ruin any conventional computer networks, while the anarcho-capitalist society at the other end of the wormhole the same AIs punched in space treats murder as only a moderate offense to be punished with a fine since anyone you kill can just be cloned and their brains restored from digital back-ups.

LGD fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Mar 23, 2016

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

1500 posted:

“Since brevity is the soul of wit / And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes, I will be brief…”

Has always been rather ironic coming from Shakespeare.

Edit: perhaps a better explanation is required. Perhaps its the difference between someone that knows how to tell a story, and a person that likes to hear himself tell one.

Shakespeare's pretty deep

Mr.Tophat
Apr 7, 2007

You clearly don't understand joke development :justpost:

ManofManyAliases posted:

Track belts have changed my outlook on life.

How do you feel about stretch goals now?

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011

El Spamo posted:

Hyperion is strong, but I think there are better sci-fi novels out there. The Expanse, for example, is the new hotness. Well deserved hotness.

It's amazing how well something can go when you do all your research & development before commencing writing your magnum opus.

quote:

Ty Franck began developing the world of The Expanse as an idea for a massively multiplayer online role-playing game. After a number of years the idea shifted to become the setting for a tabletop game. Abraham, who had already written several books on his own at this point, noticed the depth of the world that Franck had created and thought they should make a book series out of it, saying, "People who write books don't do this much research".

Compare & contrast with a project with the exact opposite development plan of "Eh, gently caress it! We'll figure it out when we get there."

Like, say, Star Citizen.

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015

I love you Dr. Zaius



Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Ender's Game is pretty good, but the memory of it's spoiled by reading the sequels

Yes. Never ever read Ender's Shadow. Ender's Game is one of my all-time favorites (despite the author).

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
If you guys are into post modern batshit craziness you oughtta read the Invisibles by Grant Morrison

It's a comic

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

G0RF posted:

I have read and re-read it several times, Eonwe.

There is so much there to chew over, but what I appreciate most is EightAce shining light on internal communications and the organizational dynamics between CIG and Foundry.

I feel like I have a pretty decent understanding of the cultures at CIG LA and Austin but Foundry UK/Germany are more opaque to me. I take as a given that they are much better run operations and have long assumed that CIG LA has been an affront and embarrassment to them professionally and source of ongoing grief and frustration.

Yet this begs a lot of questions. Most notably, "How long will they put up with this?"

Foundry is, among other things, the heatsink to CIG LA. Yet even heat sinks have limits to how much they can displace. So EightAce's periodic updates-- especially this latest one-- help shine light on a mysterious area.

On of the many terrible ironies of all this is that Erin could probably turn Star Citizen into a pretty neat Lego Game if given the chance. Destructible environments? DONE. Build your own ship and fly it? Easy. Procedurally generated lego environments-- a neat new challenge for the team. Flying lego ships in space and shooting at other players-- blowing off wings and screwing up their flight physics? Could be hilarious...(Of course, Lego would demand their pound of flesh-- if anyone was going to make bank selling in-game super-ships as DLC, it would be them...)

Star Citizen: Other than that, it's business as usual...

There's an amazing amount of combination humour and disdain toward Chris, not just from his own company, but from the game dev community at large.

Basically, if a game developer is this:



They see Chris Roberts as this:



There's some resentment over the harm he's doing the industry, as well as the fact that he's getting hero worshipped for being an idiot, but mostly it's laughs.

ManofManyAliases
Mar 21, 2016
ToastOfManySmarts


Can't post for 3 hours!

Mr.Tophat posted:

How do you feel about stretch goals now?

They're adjustable 1/4in at a time.

D1E
Nov 25, 2001


G0RF: can you no-bullshit write a book on Star Citizen?

If you publish it on Amazon and I can read it on my Kindle I will 100% buy it.

orcinus
Feb 25, 2016

Fun Shoe

Sundowner posted:

I seen posts in here earlier bout a book series and it reminded I really fecking need to get back to reading, I bought a kindle a few months ago and legit haven't finish a single book on it yet so pls give me some recs for good sci-fi exploring space and meeting aliens and colonizing space or some pulpy cyberpunk future with psychedelic android trans girls and shadow runners with green mohawks or whatever

i think i'll sit down and actually finish neuromancer.

If you want pulpy cyberpunkish alienish go around shoot at stuff weird tech AIs and cyber zombied and Bond level villains thing to read, i can recommend Neal Asher's Spatterjay series. Read it, guaranteed to have a blast.

orcinus fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Mar 23, 2016

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

G0RF posted:

I have read and re-read it several times, Eonwe.

There is so much there to chew over, but what I appreciate most is EightAce shining light on internal communications and the organizational dynamics between CIG and Foundry.

I feel like I have a pretty decent understanding of the cultures at CIG LA and Austin but Foundry UK/Germany are more opaque to me. I take as a given that they are much better run operations and have long assumed that CIG LA has been an affront and embarrassment to them professionally and source of ongoing grief and frustration.

Yet this begs a lot of questions. Most notably, "How long will they put up with this?"

Foundry is, among other things, the heatsink to CIG LA. Yet even heat sinks have limits to how much they can displace. So EightAce's periodic updates-- especially this latest one-- help shine light on a mysterious area.

On of the many terrible ironies of all this is that Erin could probably turn Star Citizen into a pretty neat Lego Game if given the chance. Destructible environments? DONE. Build your own ship and fly it? Easy. Procedurally generated lego environments-- a neat new challenge for the team. Flying lego ships in space and shooting at other players-- blowing off wings and screwing up their flight physics? Could be hilarious...(Of course, Lego would demand their pound of flesh-- if anyone was going to make bank selling in-game super-ships as DLC, it would be them...)

Star Citizen: Other than that, it's business as usual...

i like reading your posts

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

peter gabriel posted:

Star Citizen is terrible you guys

HOLY poo poo! How did that happen?! :aaa:

peter gabriel posted:

Oh yeah I forgot about that
Star Citizen is amazing you guys

Oh. Ok. How did that happen?!
I'm going to reinstall Freelancer. That was a pretty good game.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

ManofManyAliases posted:

They're adjustable 1/4in at a time.

Can they be chainlinked

TODD BONZALEZ
Jul 3, 2010




Oh and Blindsight by Peter Watts is good and you can read the whole thing or download it in various formats here http://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





ManofManyAliases posted:

"Speaker for the Dead" (which actually came out earlier) and "Xenocide" were fantastic. Xenocide is almost philosophical.

Out of all the things I have seen you post in the thread, this was the worst.

Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003


That's me. I'm the frog. I eventually :frogout:

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers

grimcreaper posted:

Hyperion has been my favorite set of stories for a very long time.

Now... were you talking about the same book, or Hyperion by John Keats the poembookthing?

No Simmons(Hugo Award-winner). I am not saying its a bad book (will ok I am). But that was just my lowly opinion, and as such means very little. Different strokes for different folks.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

how did I miss this

my lord

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





ewe2 posted:

Alas! I have not 4k in disposable income so was unable to buy jpegsbring you this feast of parp until now! But perhaps it was for the best, for I laboured upon the parp and parped more of it. Given the travails of late, I joined the healing power of reggae with the stark beauty of Neil Young's songy stuff, and there was much desperate stabs at humourrejoicing.




* There are 17 parps in the lyrics but the song has more, how many can you count?
* SPECIAL FEATURE: Taking back it back for goondom, a royalty-free personal goondeyadda parp singalong WITH HANDCLAPS for Mr Derek Smart Esq, safe from internet supervision. Sing it for your favourite goon or SC shill! The list is so long...
* Said singalong contains an awful attempt at toasting, I sound like Grover the muppet doing Billy Rasta Skank. It's the thought that counts, and I laughed a lot while doing it.
* ManofManyAliases: learn to laugh at yourself. It will set you free. You've already lost the money.
* Hey paid CIG reader: play this in the office, get a singalong going.

:five:/5, I am going to blast this all weekend.

orcinus
Feb 25, 2016

Fun Shoe

orcinus posted:

If you want pulpy cyberpunkish alienish go around shoot at stuff weird tech AIs and cyber zombied and Bond level villains thing to read, i can't recommend Neal Asher's Spatterjay series. Read it, guaranteed to have a blast.

Someone mentioned Peter F. Hamilton.
That's a good pick too for a fun read.

Avoid Hyperion at all costs. It's unimaginative and boring.

ManofManyAliases
Mar 21, 2016
ToastOfManySmarts


Can't post for 3 hours!

Beet Wagon posted:

Out of all the things I have seen you post in the thread, this was the worst.

:shrug:

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Can they be chainlinked

Only if you purchase the extra buckle.

Tortolia
Dec 29, 2005

Hindustan Electronics Employee of the Month, July 2008
Grimey Drawer

runsamok posted:

It's amazing how well something can go when you do all your research & development before commencing writing your magnum opus.

I am glad they went the book and TV route but you know this entire thread would adore rolling up a bunch of gangly, freaky looking Belters, talk in half gibberish and commit space griefing/terrorism under the quasi-legitimacy of the OPA umbrella. It would be loving amazing.

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers

Mr.Tophat posted:

If you want to be witty, you have to be swift and concise. The more belated your delivery, the less witty it is. That's pretty much it.

And while he was in many instances, he failed pretty hard many times as well.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Eonwe posted:

how did I miss this

my lord

It's one of my favorite pics in the thread - but it's better when you see the pic that inspired it.



grimcreaper
Jan 7, 2012

1500 posted:

No Simmons(Hugo Award-winner). I am not saying its a bad book (will ok I am). But that was just my lowly opinion, and as such means very little. Different strokes for different folks.

Yeah, i know. A friend of mine completely missed the book part when i was telling him about it a long time ago. He thought i was talking about the John Keats poems.

But, one thing that Hyperion has is this:

“To be a true poet is to become God.
I tried to explain this to my friends on Heaven's Gate. 'Piss, poo poo,' I said. 'rear end in a top hat motherfucker, goddamn poo poo goddamn. oval office. Pee-pee oval office. Goddamn!'
They shook their heads and smiled, and walked away. Great poets are rarely understood in their own day.”
― Dan Simmons, Hyperion


I often think that Croberts code must come off like those lines to everyone else working on Star Citizen.

grimcreaper fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Mar 23, 2016

SomethingJones
Mar 6, 2016

<3

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

If you guys are into post modern batshit craziness you oughtta read the Invisibles by Grant Morrison

It's a comic

One day I will buy the Invisibles! I read Doom Patrol for the first time last year and it blew my mind right from the get go.

I get the impression most people on here know who Grant Morrison is, if you don't and maybe if you do, this will be a real treat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-cxBuRU09w

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Scruffpuff posted:

It's one of my favorite pics in the thread - but it's better when you see the pic that inspired it.





Side profile is not that man's friend

LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

Mr.Tophat posted:

How do you feel about stretch goals now?

ManofManyAliases posted:

They're adjustable 1/4in at a time.

That response explains a lot. http://southpark.cc.com/clips/251901/stretch

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Beet Wagon posted:

:five:/5, I am going to blast this all weekend.

It sounds great on my phone, blastable confirmed!

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Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Side profile is not that man's friend

Follow-up question: what angle would work for him? Straight down?

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