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mcmagic posted:Sure but it kills everything you need to kill on turn 4+, Temper doesn't and unless you have a good madness shell, it's pretty meh for 3mana. Doesn't kill Maw of Kozilek; garbage tier card
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Angry Grimace posted:Doesn't kill Maw of Kozilek; garbage tier card If you're losing to Maw alot your deck is probably bad.
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dragon enthusiast posted:Is there no level of REL where this is allowed? Ignoring whether or not players care, me and most of the players I play against at prereleases aren't big enough assholes to disallow renegs Until the game state changes (e.g. life total change, trigger happens or spell/ability goes on the stack) then you're typically golden to tap and untap your lands till you find a configuration you're happy with. I'll see if I can find the relevant comp rules section.
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mehall posted:Until the game state changes (e.g. life total change, trigger happens or spell/ability goes on the stack) then you're typically golden to tap and untap your lands till you find a configuration you're happy with. I'm talking about spell 1 already done and resolved but there being no meaningful game state differences by the time you go "shitdamnfuck I tapped my lands wrong"
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The Shortest Path posted:It's still pretty bad in limited. Even if the clue token was straight-up replaced with it cantripping it would be not great. What? Smite the Monstrous is a very playable card and paying one extra mana to investigate seems like a fair deal to me.
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Mar 23, 2016 22:29
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sarmhan posted:
Seems a lot better than the blue investigate combat trick they spoiled. The +1 attack is huge because it lets you win a combat where your opponent wasn't expecting to lose their creature. Still not sure if it's draftable though, 3+ mana for a combat trick is overpriced no matter what it does.
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little munchkin posted:What? Smite the Monstrous is a very playable card and paying one extra mana to investigate seems like a fair deal to me. 3, but ok
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This is sort of a sideline to the whole discussion of how bad removal is, but what the hell is being investigated here? "Yup, that's a werewolf. Yeah, I shot it with my crossbow."
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Everblight posted:3, but ok Smite the Monstrous costs 4. You're either thinking of Valorous Stance or Gideon's Reproach.
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Everblight posted:3, but ok Investigating gives you a clue token. Blowing up the token for a card is separate from Investigating. ThePeavstenator posted:Smite the Monstrous costs 4. You're either thinking of Valorous Stance or Gideon's Reproach. Or Reprisal.
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dragon enthusiast posted:I'm talking about spell 1 already done and resolved but there being no meaningful game state differences by the time you go "shitdamnfuck I tapped my lands wrong" odiv fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Mar 23, 2016 22:52
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JerryLee posted:This is sort of a sideline to the whole discussion of how bad removal is, but what the hell is being investigated here? You kill it then investigate it's blood?
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Mar 23, 2016 22:55
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I imagine they probably want to figure out who that werewolf was / who they ate.
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dragon enthusiast posted:I'm talking about spell 1 already done and resolved but there being no meaningful game state differences by the time you go "shitdamnfuck I tapped my lands wrong" Yeah, as odiv says, in a tournament, you casting that spell moves past the point you can change it.
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TheKingofSprings posted:You kill it then investigate it's blood? Kalli posted:I imagine they probably want to figure out who that werewolf was / who they ate. Nothing else about the card's flavor (name, flavor text, etc.) really suggests that though. It's a heroic monster hunter taking down a big beast, which is perfectly fine flavor that has a long lineage in white but doesn't really cross over with the investigate flavor the way they've done it here. (And to be clear, since I know it can be hard to tell: I was just making a good-natured poke at the card, I'm not really flavormad.)
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Gonna draft the poo poo outta this set.
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Some Numbers posted:This card seems really good. It seems like the first creature that comes back from the grave in a long time that actually synergizes with Gravecrawler.
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Mar 23, 2016 23:03
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So this is making the rounds on social media.
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Some Numbers posted:This card seems really good. I don't think its really good for limited, but it could be in the middle I guess. Paying 2 cards and 2 mana seems to be pretty loose if you aren't pushing lethal or are close to it next turn. I guess if you are heavy on clue triggers on your cards and have some milling maybe? I guess 3 power on a flying is pretty good for 4 mana as well. Nah, still pretty okayish. Edit.. a zombie... well maybe it is pretty good.
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I'm pretty sure they killed off Kozilek and Ulamog so easily so they could focus the Eldrazi into one character, which would obviously be Emrakul, as the most well-known and popular one (because she's the biggest)
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Kilo147 posted:So this is making the rounds on social media. Be more convincing if there was a sort of pattern to it, like if "they" had been the third word in its flavor text, and so on. As is, I'm calling coincidence (though I think it's still perfectly possible that Emmy will be involved on Innistrad).
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JerryLee posted:Be more convincing if there was a sort of pattern to it, like if "they" had been the third word in its flavor text, and so on. As is, I'm calling coincidence (though I think it's still perfectly possible that Emmy will be involved on Innistrad). Reminds me of a time I took a random username, moved letters around, converted some into numbers and made it equal 9/11. If you really want to see something, you will, regardless of whether or not its there.
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Are there any mythics we don't know about that could be Emrakul?
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Kilo147 posted:So this is making the rounds on social media. That's a little contrived since the wording isn't even the same. However those Clue tokens have such oddly worded flavor text, and the fact that they are Clue tokens, it makes sense that something would be hidden in there. Like, those flavor texts are so vague and generic that I wouldn't be surprised if they took the phrase "Remember this: they came as three" and devised 6 lame flavor texts around it (okay, the one about the tide is not bad). Why would they make 6 Clue tokens if not to hide some mystery? (Even though we knew it was Emrakul the whole time it's good to have a little more confirmation). Lets Pickle fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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Kilo147 posted:So this is making the rounds on social media. I've never understood why "vorthos' types can't just read a book or something
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It's not Emrakul.
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sarmhan posted:It's not Emrakul. Duh, Emrakul is not a Sliver. Emrakul/Sliver Queen OTP tho. Joke aside, apparently the flavour text thing exists in translated versions too.
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Kilo147 posted:So this is making the rounds on social media. Do not forget =/= Remember this
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mcmagic posted:Are there any mythics we don't know about that could be Emrakul? Yeah, there's still a whole bunch from Eldritch Moon we haven't seen yet. The story progression will be similar to BFZ-OGW, except instead of Kozilek popping up out of the ground it will be Emrakul appearing from behind the moon. Apparently the Clue thing works in all languages. Like, apparently the flavor text on the Clue tokens has odd word choices in other languages, almost like someone was trying to jam a phrase into them. Lets Pickle fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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If it is Emrakul, you wouldn't be getting it until Eldritch Moon anyway.
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I mean we also have random tentacles and poo poo growing off half the stuff in the card art so it's not exactly like it would be outta left field.
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Lets Pickle posted:Yeah, there's still a whole bunch from Eldritch Moon we haven't seen yet. The story progression will be similar to BFZ-OGW, except instead of Kozilek popping up out of the ground it will be Emrakul appearing from behind the moon. This would imply that Emrakul will job out to the YA self-insert squad, so I loving hope not 
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Voyager I posted:I mean we also have random tentacles and poo poo growing off half the stuff in the card art so it's not exactly like it would be outta left field. No, Mr Green. Emrakul is just a red herring.
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JerryLee posted:This would imply that Emrakul will job out to the YA self-insert squad, so I loving hope not What if Emrakul jobs out to Tamiyo specifically?
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JerryLee posted:This would imply that Emrakul will job out to the YA self-insert squad, so I loving hope not Oath of Sorin "For the sake of stability, I will keep watch." Oath of Liliana "For the sake of myself, I will keep watch." Oath of Tamiyo "In the name of the moon, I will keep watch." Together with Jace, our heroes discover that even though Emrakul is indestructible, it can still be killed by -X/-X effects. Liliana reduces it to 0/0. Tamiyo was there too.
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