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Jimmy4400nav posted:Now that they've been out for a bit, what is the consensus on the Skitarii? I'm still thinking about maybe picking up a starting box of them, it seems like a fairly good value, but I never know with GW. I like the Skitarii since they look like a fun goofy shooty army that has some neat melee. Skitarii look cool as gently caress. Haven't played them but I'm thinking about picking some up. PierreTheMime posted:Just be aware that if you're using Skitarii you cannot legally field a Combined Arms Detachment or Allied army list, as the army has no HQ units. This limits you to the Battle Maniple FOC in the Skitarii book and the various formations available. As far as I know Skitarii cannot get Objective Secured, so they're cool and fun but pray to the Omnissiah you can shoot those CAD Tacticals/Ork Boyz/$troopunit off the objective in time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're free to take a Combined Arms Detachment of Adeptus Mechanicus or even Imperial Guard, Grey Knights, Space Marines, etc. and then have Skitarii codex formations in addition. So its not a so bad, you just really have to combine Skitarii with some other faction, adeptus mechanicus if you wanna be fluffy.
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Star Man posted:This reminds me. If you make an unbound army, you can just take everybody and all imperium of man are super allied and so pretty much act like they're the same for most rules, they can join units together if they're independent characters and they can repair each other or whatever. But you don't get any tactics bonus or the capture point bonus. If you want to make a detachment army, you'll have to find a detachment that allows you to use space marines and culexus assassins, which there probably isn't any. Which means you'll have to take one detachment of space marines, and another detachment of culexus assassins. As long as you can find a detachment that lets you take just culexus assassin in the codex for the assassins, then you're golden. If not you'll have to find some assassin HQ to go with them, but you're still good. Really you probably want to play unbound vs unbound or detachment vs detachment, the whole "capture point rule" thing is just there if you really want to play your unbound army against some friend of yours' detachment army and try to make it work. I do like that GW put a lot of "make up your own story and do whats fun, screw the rules" in the rulebook for 7th.
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Star Man posted:This reminds me. There is an Assassin formation that lets you take one. And the Execution Force formation that lets you take all 4.
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Ghost Hand posted:I wont be there on the weekend - but I will be there the 18th and 19th (Mon/Tue) That's a shame. I'm heading there that weekend with a few buddies.
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I am sorry guys. I had talked about organising goonpocalypse III to celebrate SRM and Ghost Hand's travel over. (I know you guys will be hanging out with the FW elite but I had intended we could run a parallel game and you could hang out when you fancied) Unfortunately having a one month old and a two year oldmeans that I cannot abandon my wife for the time it takes to drive up and down to Nottingham. I am keen to meet you both as I am grateful for both your contributions to my personal wider hamming experience. I am trying to get a day pass to come to salute and I will hopefully get a chance to ambush you at some point there. JackMack fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Mar 24, 2016 |
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Zaphod42 posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're free to take a Combined Arms Detachment of Adeptus Mechanicus or even Imperial Guard, Grey Knights, Space Marines, etc. and then have Skitarii codex formations in addition. So its not a so bad, you just really have to combine Skitarii with some other faction, adeptus mechanicus if you wanna be fluffy. This is true, but for a player starting out telling them "yeah you can play this army but you should also buy another army too", while very GW, might not what they want to hear. Cult Mechanicus is the obvious matchup for a CAD or ally but their Troops are slow and will be high priority targets because of their damage capacity. Plenty of other Imperium factions would work but really changes the style of play.
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My ham friends and I will probably be going to Salute, but ever so wisely GW have chosen that exact day to do their big in-store 30th anniversary Space Marine release, whatever it is. So I'm not sure what will take precedence for us. I do want to go but unless I have a bunch of spending money it'll just be a long drive to do window shopping. If I can get that Monday off I'd be happy to arrange things for a goon game, but I'm not so great at coming up with scenarios or narratives - I'd probably crib things off the last game that JackMack set up and go from there!
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PierreTheMime posted:This is true, but for a player starting out telling them "yeah you can play this army but you should also buy another army too", while very GW, might not what they want to hear. True, but if you buy the getting started set for them it already is a mix of Skitarii and Cult Mechanicus, and running both of those factions together isn't going to feel as odd as say, marines and guard. It's just wierd that they split the book.
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I'm still down with hanging around in WHW and having a retro-off with SRM  May be better to hang around and chat with individual games than trying to arrange a big one this time? I can also bring stuff along if people want to trade bitz etc. In other news Kromlech released their new buggy - http://bitsofwar.com/home/454-blitzkrieg-222-assault-vehicle.html Expensive at 40 euros for a buggy but it looks awesome so may be worth it anyway if you only want a single unit 
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jadebullet posted:True, but if you buy the getting started set for them it already is a mix of Skitarii and Cult Mechanicus, and running both of those factions together isn't going to feel as odd as say, marines and guard. It's just wierd that they split the book. The Getting Started kits are legit good deals. The Skitarii box is a little weird since it forces you to buy both codices to play it unlike all other kits. Techpriest Dominus models are both awesome looking and quite powerful on the table and the mini-Preferred Enemy buff isn't bad. Getting that, a few other Skitarii kits, and a couple boxes of Kataphron models is a pretty quick way toward a decent army with some OpSec models. It's really not that much of a stretch to start building toward a War Convocation at that point. 
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Yeah, I have been looking at that set for a little bit, as I really like those Admech Lancer guys, but I have been holding off since I don't even have my Chaos in a playable form yet, and I already have built a test mini for a low points side project for when I need a break from painting black. Speaking of which, how are the Wulfen on the tabletop? From what I have seen they have some pretty nice rules.
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PierreTheMime posted:This is true, but for a player starting out telling them "yeah you can play this army but you should also buy another army too", while very GW, might not what they want to hear. Cult Mechanicus is the obvious matchup for a CAD or ally but their Troops are slow and will be high priority targets because of their damage capacity. Plenty of other Imperium factions would work but really changes the style of play. Its true. They're definitely a funky faction and probably not ideal for newbies. But you can make em work for sure if you really want to. jadebullet posted:True, but if you buy the getting started set for them it already is a mix of Skitarii and Cult Mechanicus, and running both of those factions together isn't going to feel as odd as say, marines and guard. It's just wierd that they split the book. GW gotta get paid. I had a good laugh when I saw that Dark Angels got their own codex. (But Black Templars don't?)
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jadebullet posted:Speaking of which, how are the Wulfen on the tabletop? From what I have seen they have some pretty nice rules. Obscene in close-combat. If they get toe to toe with anything they'll happily rip it to pieces. Their 4+ save does hurt them, making it easier to pick them off before they get too close though, and I've seen it's far too easy for people to plunge too many points into kitting them out at the detriment to the rest of the army.
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Zaphod42 posted:I had a good laugh when I saw that Dark Angels got their own codex. (But Black Templars don't?) Dark Angels have been a separate Imperial faction for decades. Black Templar used to be but were close enough to standard codex that they just rolled them in. They may not strictly adhere to the Codex Astartes but they basically just more zealous Space Marines that don't spawn new chapters whereas as space vampires and more specialized chapters would be tougher to collect into one book.
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PierreTheMime posted:Dark Angels have been a separate Imperial faction for decades. Black Templar used to be but were close enough to standard codex that they just rolled them in. They may not strictly adhere to the Codex Astartes but they basically just more zealous Space Marines that don't spawn new chapters whereas as space vampires and more specialized chapters would be tougher to collect into one book.  Back when I played Blood Angels got their codex out of a magazine and Grey Knights were still using a codex from like 3rd edition. The whole thing was in shambles. I didn't think Dark Angels had their own but there was definitely a lot of stuff out there I didn't even know about back then. I guess I'll have to grab the Dark Angels codex and see what all they put in there.I'm playing catchup and to their credit GW seems to have cleaned things up in a big way. I actually really like the new 7th rules. Was originally leaning towards picking up Blood Angels again like I used to, but now I'm leaning towards building a Chaos force instead (And possibly fluff it that they're the same faction as my old guys, now turned to the dark gods). And of course part of me wants to just go ahead and do both, and also maybe some xeno faction for a change, but there goes my wallet  Went looking for my old minis but I guess most of them got lost during a move somewhere back. I still have a Furioso Dreadnought though 
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jadebullet posted:Blood Angels and Dark Angels used to share the Angels of Death codex iirc Googling, that was like 2nd ed, so slightly before my time. We played 3rd, 4th and 5th. Looks like there was a Dark Angels codex at that point but I just didn't have it and my friends didn't either.
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This is official and it's pretty funny regimental-standard.com
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Played my new box o' demons yesterday. Fatey, a pimped out LoC, screemerstar, and a Tzeetch knight against my roommates Demonkin dawgrush on ITC relic.I siezed on him and was able to buff up and kill the unattached Cypher with Incursion summoned screemer fly overs on turn one for First Strike. He caught my nurglings and the LoC in a multiassault and tried to get a ton of wounds on the nurglings to evaporate my LoC but it didn't happen. I charged with the knight and he wound up stomping everything out. The screemers got stuck on a lord and some nurglings for a few turns while while fatey shot the poo poo out of his LoC and summoned more screemers to kill bloodletters that wound up in my back field. At the end of the game all he had was some summoned dawgs that stuck the landing next to the relic and all I lost was a herald from the warpstorm and some troops that held my backfield. Tanky demons is fun and a 3++ reroll 1s, 4+ FNP S8 LoC is no drat joke. He walked though everything he fought. Mango Polo posted:This is official and it's pretty funny "Feeble Claws."
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Mango Polo posted:This is official and it's pretty funny
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Fuegan posted:That's a shame. I'm heading there that weekend with a few buddies. Sorry I am missing you! I will be at Salute in London on Saturday...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHgu_fBlSjk E: Found the ingame video. Perfectly orky. The release is now scheduled for April 21st, which I think is a great decision based on what I've played so far. If they clean up the issues seen so far, they're going to have a fantastic game on their hands. Also, apparently there is going to now be a 6th faction (Space Marines being the 5th) that is also going to be free with anyone who had pre-ordered the game. Boon fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Mar 25, 2016 |
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Finished the last Tactical squad for Adepticon, just a Rhino and Command Squad to finish. Going to start the Command tonight, I think they will look pretty pimp, I'm so short on time I'm likely to call in to work once to pull an all nighter to get the display board finished, and everything packed properly along with any final painting. Toss in a ton of Easter/friends/family poo poo and the next 7 days are keeping me busy.
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Boon posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHgu_fBlSjk Man, I really hate the motion graphics techniques they use to animate illustrations. I feel like execs think it's a good way to get cheap animation but it just makes everything seem so weightless and lifeless.
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Boon posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHgu_fBlSjk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19JRYTkg5fQ Turn on CC so you can tell what they are saying.
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So was this the Ork fandex one of you Lord dudes mentioned you were completing? I'm considering converting it into a BattleScribe data file, if so. In the meantime, I'm about done with 20 Flayed Ones, & think I'll start up on Deathmarks next. They'll be DS-ing in with a Destroyer Lord to lay into my buddy's goddamned Wraithknight, because gently caress that thing.
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Grognan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19JRYTkg5fQ That's so loving good xD
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Hey hamgoons, BuffaloChicken and I and our crew are getting together tomorrow afternoon at my place for a 2v2 game of 40k, 2000 pts per side. I mention this because we'll be streaming the game on twitch at http://www.twitch.tv/thechirurgeon Feel free to stop in if you are interested. We should be starting sometime around 5pm, though I'll post when we're ready to go live. It'll mostly depend on when our 4th player arrives.
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I picked up the Dark Vengeance starter set, seemed like a good value and the fast way to get back into 40k. And a bunch of paints and brushes. And another codex. I guess I'm back into this poo poo deep now If I try to like paint these Dark Angels as another faction, are people going to complain that they're technically dark angels models or whatever? People often mod their units right? I guess I just gotta see what people in my area are cool with. I've got a friend who'll play with me and I'm sure he's cool with whatever.
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Hra Mormo posted:Goddamn, I know this guy, used to live in my town. Famous for making FOTM armies, taking them to tournaments, losing and starting again with another FOTM army. Also famous for throwing his models into a wall during games. It's a small world. He always came across as a chill guy online.
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Ignite Memories posted:Man, I really hate the motion graphics techniques they use to animate illustrations. I feel like execs think it's a good way to get cheap animation but it just makes everything seem so weightless and lifeless. It was good...up until the Inquisitor's mouth started moving Monty Python style It goes without saying I'm really hyped for this game
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Ignite Memories posted:Man, I really hate the motion graphics techniques they use to animate illustrations. I feel like execs think it's a good way to get cheap animation but it just makes everything seem so weightless and lifeless.  I'd take Max Payne-esque comic panels over cheesy motion comic stuff.
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TheChirurgeon posted:Hey hamgoons, BuffaloChicken and I and our crew are getting together tomorrow afternoon at my place for a 2v2 game of 40k, 2000 pts per side. I mention this because we'll be streaming the game on twitch at http://www.twitch.tv/thechirurgeon I'm bringing a bunch of good beer and finally trying out my wacky unbound list, though, so overall it should be good. I want to ally with TheChirurgeon and see if he gets madder than me when my dudes all die.
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Proletariat Beowulf posted:So was this the Ork fandex one of you Lord dudes mentioned you were completing? Nope, ours was much simpler! Found at goodbadgreenskin.tumblr.com Ive been intending to convert it up into a nice pdf but work has been murdering me recently so I haven't had time to do blog hobby, just normal hobby.
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Zaphod42 posted:I picked up the Dark Vengeance starter set, seemed like a good value and the fast way to get back into 40k. And a bunch of paints and brushes. And another codex. I guess I'm back into this poo poo deep now Only the grognardiest jerk will complain. What matters more (but technically isn't required anymore) is modeling your models with the proper equipment/weapons. What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) is the accepted standard because otherwise things can get either unintentionally or intentionally confusing/vague.
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Zaphod42 posted:So I'm trying to play catchup on the changes since I used to play, seems like there's only 7th ed codexes for Marines, Dark Angels, and Tau? Is that right? (Really? Tau?) Before you buy anything more, you might want to read this: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3750899&pagenumber=288&perpage=40#post457854529 Doctor Borris posted:So currently in 40k Balance you have... Not a viking fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Mar 25, 2016 |
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PierreTheMime posted:Only the grognardiest jerk will complain. What matters more (but technically isn't required anymore) is modeling your models with the proper equipment/weapons. What You See Is What You Get (WYSIWYG) is the accepted standard because otherwise things can get either unintentionally or intentionally confusing/vague. That's what I figured. Although now I'm wondering how far I can push the WYSIWYG / "ai-is" rules, because the faction I'm thinking about making would be a renegade space marine chapter that's fallen to chaos but only recently and not completely, so I'd ideally like to modify some space marine models and use them as chaos. I figure nobody would complain about using dark angels as ultramarines, but can I get away with using dark angels as chaos marines? If I did, I'd specifically color-code them to make it obvious which units they're supposed to be, and they'd be mixed in units with proper chaos marines to further drive home the point. And I might even further mod them with pre-Heresey helmets or something. I don't really play tournaments so for casual play I think most people would be cool with it. And I guess I could always get some more proper chaos marines later on, and swap them depending upon if the person I'm playing with says its kosher or not. That seems like a good strategy. Not a viking posted:Before you buy anything more, you might want to read this: Thanks. I kinda figured that anybody left with a 6th ed codex is probably in a so-so state. I guess I could play Blood Angels again and be more competitive than Chaos Marines, but honestly I'm just not that kinda tryhard tournament gotta-win player. I'm more about just having fun collecting my own force, painting them, and then having some casual battles with them where I get to see them kill some dudes and die in heroic fashion. If I lose more often than I win I'm not gonna throw a fit about it.
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