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Laserface posted:That is an awful comic that is 100000x better drawn and worded than any first dog. Well of course it is, Stan Kelly is the greatest cartoonist in our world today.
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LibertyCat posted:A rolling list of terror attacks in the last 30 days. Christian extremists don't come close. Also holy poo poo you know nothing at all about history. IRA? Religion and Violence don't correlate, the correct correlation is poverty, history and disenfranchisement. For example I'm heading to Indonesia (Muslim) where I work routinely speak some of the language and am very safe, enjoy your time travelling in Democratic Republic of Congo (Christian).
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gay picnic defence posted:Monis had an islamic flag, and made hostages stand in front of it. If that isn't an attempt to promote extremist islam then what is it? The kid with the knife had an islamic state flag, do you think if he'd been successful and killed a cop that the flag would've stayed in his pocket and not been put on display? Why else would you carry the symbols of a cause or religion when carrying out an act like that if it wasn't a significant motivation for that act? Even simply dying for a cause is important for extremist muslims, just look at the way they carry on about martyrs. If they aren't actually connected to ISIS in any way, perhaps they are doing it for attention? If someone like Monis acted out and attacked his perceived enemies, he would be on the news for a day or two. But stage a armed stand-off and wave the ISIS flag around, and he will be talked about and used as political rhetoric for far longer. By adopting something more popular, he is making himself more popular by association. Is that really much of a stretch to make? I think there is a distinction to be made between terrorism conducted by an individual and terrorism conducted by an institution. They often have differing causes and motivations, and are combated/solved in very different ways. If you classify Monis as an Islamic extremist/ISIS, then you end up spending money on counter terrorism units, signals intelligence and monitoring, looking for him in a place where he doesn't exist. Monis is a very good case study as to why conflating the sources of terrorism can lead to people him slipping through the cracks and causing trouble.
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Zenithe posted:Will check that out, cheers. So yeah, cover letters. Apologies if you've already doing this, I thought my friend was doing this as well but she wasn't. You'd think someone with a Masters degree would be able to write a cover letter and get a job, but nope. It was awful. The old cover letter, the one that did not get a response for a whole year: http://pastebin.com/d23wYXQd Reasons it was bad: - She does not engage or address the employer, or the job sought - She talks about herself too much without linking it to the job sought - It's obviously a generic letter to send to everyone We worked on it together, improving it is various ways. I can't say if it's the best cover letter or I'm a pro but it has got her an interview with every application after that. The new cover letter, with appropriate addressing of the issues related to the job: http://pastebin.com/pcdJ42YP (feel free to steal) Reasons I think it is good: - Refers to the employer, the job offered, the company - Repeatedly refers to how her skills and experience relate to the job offered - Shows interest and enthusiasm - Kept under a page - *it could almost do with one of the middle paragraphs erased. - *the RE: line should be bolded, so the employer clearly knows what you're applying for I think the first couple of lines are the most important in showing you aren't sending a proforma letter. Start out strong and grab their attention. The last couple of lines asking them to call you/get in contact with you are also nice to get right.
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hooman posted:Regarding silencers: Given the evidence you've presented I'm now fine with legalisation. As I said I didn't know much about the issue. Legalising silencers for hunters would present a pretty large safety issue for anyone else using the area (including hunters). Nothing says there's a hunter in the area like a big old gunshot.
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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...323-gnpo0q.htmlquote:A High Court challenge to Senate voting changes is based on "hopeless" or "weak" grounds but should be resolved expeditiously because it is of considerable public interest, the government's top lawyer has said. I mean they still want to argue it cos it's important, but it is pretty funny on Day's part
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Mar 24, 2016 05:48
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Bent Wookiee posted:Legalising silencers for hunters would present a pretty large safety issue for anyone else using the area (including hunters). Nothing says there's a hunter in the area like a big old gunshot. I thought guns were still pretty loud even with silencers, just a bit less loud.
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Mar 24, 2016 05:50
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hooman posted:I thought guns were still pretty loud even with silencers, just a bit less loud. Most of the time they baffle the sound, so it's very hard to tell where the shot came from. They don't make a cute little pew-pew noise (generally). Plus (correct me if I'm wrong) I hear they don't help the accuracy of your firearm, so I can't see any reason a hunter would want to use one.
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Mar 24, 2016 05:56
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Because they're considerate? The same reason you might not want to drive around with an open exhaust on your car even it does make it a bit more powerful. I don't think they make enough of a difference wrt power or accuracy for it to matter.
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Mar 24, 2016 05:58
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And when you're shooting in a national park, you don't want to upset all the kids out walking with their families. SOMETHING MOVED SHOOT IT!!!
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Mar 24, 2016 06:02
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:Have y'all seen this? http://www.dontkillbulkbill.com/ Emails sent. I prefer the old hand written one, but I suppose spamming the email is better than nothing
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Mar 24, 2016 06:09
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hooman posted:Monis put the flag up in a window, and the kid has the IS flag in his car. That seems to be part of Cartoon's reasoning too, although maybe my read on that is wrong. My view is that these things are what they are. We have a definition for terrorism, these attacks match it (some more than others) so why pretend it isn't there? If there is a problem with the way others respond then that is an issue of lack of education and outreach and even if you successfully change the way these attacks are labled you are just going from 'muslim extremists are terrorists' to 'muslim extremists are violent murderers' which doesn't help with the pigeonholing of muslims much as far as I can see. Tokamak posted:If they aren't actually connected to ISIS in any way, perhaps they are doing it for attention? If someone like Monis acted out and attacked his perceived enemies, he would be on the news for a day or two. But stage a armed stand-off and wave the ISIS flag around, and he will be talked about and used as political rhetoric for far longer. By adopting something more popular, he is making himself more popular by association. Is that really much of a stretch to make? Your second paragraph seems like splitting hairs. There would be merit in classifying it like that for internal purposes, but the public don't care. They see a guy talking about furthering the cause of extremist islam with a gun holding hostages. It might not be an institution but it certainly is part of a broader cause.
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If you guys have questions about hunting with silencers then there's a Swedish (? I think) tfr goon who does it all the time. The idea it makes hunting less safe for others is wrong, just because you don't know an armed person is around doesn't make them more dangerous to you. A properly fitted silencer using the correct ammo will have no adverse affect on the firearm or is performance. The use of subsonic ammo will change the ballistics vs supersonics but that's not the cans fault. One other one I read in here was that they don't make guns quite. Quite is a subjective thing but a suppressed .22lr is not going to be heard by someone not standing withing 5 meters. An MP5 SD is so well suppressed that the register of the shot of quieter than the register of the action cycling, just as an example of how quiet a gun can be. Suppressed hunting is arguably more ethical as it doesn't scare ever other animal within earshot? I think that's what gets said. Ignoring that suppressors don't make guns anymore dangerous but they do make them more user friendly. If they were legal then there could be "silent" ranges where you don't need ear pro', that would make for a great place to teach people about firearm safety. Sorry for the derail if you really do have questions then tfr is the place to go.
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guns are for fukken wimps tho
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gay picnic defence posted:That seems to be part of Cartoon's reasoning too, although maybe my read on that is wrong. My view is that these things are what they are. We have a definition for terrorism, these attacks match it (some more than others) so why pretend it isn't there? If there is a problem with the way others respond then that is an issue of lack of education and outreach and even if you successfully change the way these attacks are labled you are just going from 'muslim extremists are terrorists' to 'muslim extremists are violent murderers' which doesn't help with the pigeonholing of muslims much as far as I can see. ISIS has been banging the drum about inspiring attackers in their home countries since their inception. You can't discount someone who's carrying out a terrorist act just because it was planned and enacted by an organisation externally. When they can find the know how on pro ISIS message boards and carry them out in their name they're a terrorist and it's a terrorist attack. It's also entirely plausible that someone like Monis can be both a lone nut and a terrorist and his actions an act of terrorism. It's not a binary equation. It's not fear mongering hate speech to suggest that it might not be a great idea to take "military age males" en masse from a country known specifically at this point for being a breeding ground for extremist thought and action, a pipeline which a terrorist organisation has specifically said it has used and will used for infiltration of western countries arguably its common sense. Tasmantor posted:If you guys have questions about hunting with silencers then there's a Swedish (? I think) tfr goon who does it all the time. The idea it makes hunting less safe for others is wrong, just because you don't know an armed person is around doesn't make them more dangerous to you. Other thing to keep in mind is that even if you can hear a shooter actively hunting or can't its not going to be any more or less safe because a HUGE part of the safety course is about ensuring your shot is clear BEHIND what you're aiming at. If you're in danger from a poo poo head with a rifle you'd be in danger loud or quiet. BlindSite fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Mar 24, 2016 |
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BlindSite posted:Other thing to keep in mind is that even if you can hear a shooter actively hunting or can't its not going to be any more or less safe because a HUGE part of the safety course is about ensuring your shot is clear BEHIND what you're aiming at.
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Birdstrike posted:guns are for fukken wimps tho Exactly. When I go to make a political statement through mass assault and murder, mine's going to be through the ancient Chinese method of tying someone down and making bamboo grow through them. A chuting spree.
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"Military age males" - so, we'll stop extremism by separating families escaping war zones of our own creation? "En mass" - the yellow peril has ended, comrade, and we won "Breeding ground for extremist thought and action" - a war zone, that Australia created, with people in it defending themselves from the invaders (Australia) "Common sense" - a big wall around Australia.
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Cleretic posted:Exactly. When I go to make a political statement through mass assault and murder, mine's going to be through the ancient Chinese method of tying someone down and making bamboo grow through them. The medium is the message and your message is terrifying, bravo sir.
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asio posted:"Military age males" - so, we'll stop extremism by separating families escaping war zones of our own creation? quote:"En mass" - the yellow peril has ended, comrade, and we won quote:"Breeding ground for extremist thought and action" - a war zone, that Australia created, with people in it defending themselves from the invaders (Australia) quote:"Common sense" - a big wall around Australia. Not gonna lie, if I had to choose between Di Natale and Trump, I'd pick Trump.
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Mar 24, 2016 08:55
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LibertyCat posted:No-one is forcing them to come here. If Home is so dangerous they should be happy that their women and children are safe. If this makes them extremists, well, they'll be extremists far away from Australia. It really is incredible just how little it takes for a libertarian to completely drop their principles and start supporting authoritarian measures.
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I see a difference between strict immigration rules (that apply to non-citizens) and rules that apply to Australians. I support civil liberties - even though I personally dislike headscarves etc I'd never tell anyone they can't wear one. I oppose importing a culture that does not support women's rights to wear what they want etc.
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Hahaaa FreedomKitten wants to stop immigration so he can piss on a book without retaliation and they say dnd is without humour 
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LibertyCat posted:I see a difference between strict immigration rules (that apply to non-citizens) and rules that apply to Australians. So you're willing to use national borders and citizenship as a line of demarcation for someone's rights? And you can't see how this is hypocritical for a libertarian? In your ideal stateless fantasy land how would you deal with this problem?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:So you're willing to use national borders and citizenship as a line of demarcation for someone's rights? And you can't see how this is hypocritical for a libertarian? In your ideal stateless fantasy land how would you deal with this problem? Supporting Strong Borders to protect the freedom of those within those borders isn't hypocritical. I care about Australians. I don't particularly care about the rights of anyone else.
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LibertyCat posted:Supporting Strong Borders to protect the freedom of those within those borders isn't hypocritical. I care about Australians. I don't particularly care about the rights of anyone else.  Protect the white race!
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Mar 24, 2016 09:59
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why are you arguing with a troll?
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LibertyCat posted:I care about Australians. Why would you?
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"Australians" includes more than white people. I'd rather accept a thousand black refugees who agreed that gay people should be left alone than a thousand white refugees who don't. Culture is what matters to me, not race.
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I don't care about the rights of libertarians, personally I think we should grind them to paste and store it in a toxic waste dump
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asio posted:"Military age males" - so, we'll stop extremism by separating families escaping war zones of our own creation? I've seen some retarded jumps of logic in my time but your bullshit takes the cake. No where in my post did I advocate closed borders, non muslim refugees only or not taking families. And blaming australia for isis is the most retarded poo poo I've read today. Maybe you can work chemtrails and lizard people into your next post.
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Solemn Sloth posted:I don't care about the rights of libertarians, personally I think we should grind them to paste and store it in a toxic waste dump OTOH I fully support your right to be a fuckwit on a politics forum.
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LibertyCat posted:OTOH I fully support your right to be a fuckwit on a politics forum. Just not off an internet forum then, given your idea for an ideological test for immigrants?
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BlindSite posted:I've seen some retarded jumps of logic in my time but your bullshit takes the cake. Yo we've been killing arabs in their homes for over 100 years. Some of them have managed to get here so their kids can be inside the tent pissing out, instead of having to buy a new tent every time he hears a "kill that oval office". retarded leap of logic? No, u
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Being a fuckwit on an internet forum harms no-one. Rioting and threatening to behead people for, say, publishing cartoons, has a chilling effect on free speech.
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Mar 24, 2016 10:27
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Must be nice when you've got everything figured out and it's all so black & white
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asio posted:Yo we've been killing arabs in their homes for over 100 years. Some of them have managed to get here so their kids can be inside the tent pissing out, instead of having to buy a new tent every time he hears a "kill that oval office". Nah thats cool man. I agree. Australia is the sole cause of islamic extremism. Never mind the literal hundreds of other causes starting with their own home grown bullshit. Its the evil of Australia. Glad we could clear that up as if it has any impact on anything Id mentioned in my original post.
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We kinda did invade Palestine with the light horse probably around exactly 100 years ago
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What about who gives a gently caress about borders? It is a waste of money keeping this arbitrary idea around. You as a libertarian think the government needs to regulate the flow of people into and out of this land because they aren't citizens? Who pays for that? gently caress off.
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