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How old is your dad?
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Mar 24, 2016 14:19
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Vintersorg posted:How old is your dad? And what does he do?
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Mar 24, 2016 14:21
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Grendels Dad posted:And what does he do? He plays Warcraft III, I thought that was clear.
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Mar 24, 2016 16:17
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Who is your daddy?
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Mar 24, 2016 20:51
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FreudianSlippers posted:Who is your daddy? Thrall
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Mar 24, 2016 20:55
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I like that the name of the big hero Moses Orc dude is literally "Slave".
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Mar 24, 2016 21:12
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Vintersorg posted:How old is your dad? Grendels Dad posted:And what does he do? 60, mechanical engineer. He always builds dwarven units in Warcraft 3 
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Mar 24, 2016 21:18
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teagone posted:60, mechanical engineer. He always builds dwarven units in Warcraft 3 Is he a Goblin or Gnome engineer? 
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Mar 24, 2016 21:35
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Wanna meet that dad.
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Mar 24, 2016 21:39
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Least Warcraft 3 had some fun stuff in it. This is just World of Warcraft barfed onto bad CGI.
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Mar 24, 2016 21:54
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teagone posted:I think that's why my dad had told me he's really looking forward to the movie too. It just reminds him so much of the RTS games that he loves. He's never touched WoW, but played the RTS games for the last 2 decades. He still plays Warcraft 3 everyday after work (when he's not playing Banished). it doesn't look like the old games at all.
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Mar 24, 2016 22:09
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Groovelord Neato posted:it doesn't look like the old games at all. Argue with my dad, not me. He's the one who told me it reminded him of the games. That said, the art direction seems to be reminiscent of WC3's aesthetic though, from what I've seen in the trailers.
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Mar 24, 2016 22:28
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Looking forward to thing because it stars Ragnar from Vikings and its doing the Warcraft 1 story before it became about space paladins.
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Mar 24, 2016 23:15
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teagone posted:Argue with my dad, not me. He's the one who told me it reminded him of the games. Buy him an account.
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Mar 25, 2016 01:45
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CJ posted:What racial stereotype is orcs? The Other
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Mar 25, 2016 02:20
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Sir Kodiak posted:Buy him an account. I dunno man, it sounds like he likes his dad too much to put him through that.
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Mar 25, 2016 02:35
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Sir Kodiak posted:Buy him an account. I don't want to have him go through the pains of debating with Groovelord Neato of all people. He's much too old for that kind of bullshit.
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Mar 25, 2016 02:39
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FreudianSlippers posted:I like that the name of the big hero Moses Orc dude is literally "Slave". His other name is a combination of Goku and Superman.
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Mar 25, 2016 04:02
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Doctor Spaceman posted:His other name is a combination of Goku and Superman. Sugoku? Gooperman?
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Mar 25, 2016 04:05
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Late Unpleasantness posted:Sugoku? Goku + Kal-El = Go'el
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Mar 25, 2016 04:10
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Funnily enough, in both the Old Testament and the New, Goel is a title attributed to God and means "the redeemer," so that gives you an idea of what Metzen thinks about Thrall.
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Mar 25, 2016 04:25
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Wonder how many "my people" speeches will be in it.
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Mar 25, 2016 04:31
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lol how bad do you think this movie is going to ruin Duncan Jones' career when it bombs
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Mar 25, 2016 06:18
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Immortan posted:lol how bad do you think this movie is going to ruin Duncan Jones' career when it bombs He can always go back to directing low budget high concept films. The budgets on Source Code and Moon were only $28m and $5m.
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Mar 25, 2016 06:29
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teagone posted:I don't want to have him go through the pains of debating with Groovelord Neato of all people. He's much too old for that kind of bullshit. i wouldn't want to whip an old man anyway.
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Mar 25, 2016 10:53
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:He can always go back to directing low budget high concept films. The budgets on Source Code and Moon were only $28m and $5m. Aw I forgot he was the one directing this, I feel sad now.
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Mar 25, 2016 11:12
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wyoming posted:Aw I forgot he was the one directing this, I feel sad now. Maybe it'll actually be good.
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Mar 25, 2016 15:28
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Stunt Rock posted:Maybe it'll actually be good. Yeah let's hope he'll be more of a James Gunn than a Josh Trank when it comes to this "Low budget director suddenly handed a $100m film" deal.
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Mar 25, 2016 15:40
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The only time I ever connected Orcs with black people is then they do the MC Hammer dance in WoW. Am I weird for never once thinking of them as being an analogue for black people?
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Mar 25, 2016 17:33
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:He can always go back to directing low budget high concept films. The budgets on Source Code and Moon were only $28m and $5m. It never stops to amuse me that Americans considers that to be low budget movies.
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Mar 25, 2016 17:56
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Jamesman posted:The only time I ever connected Orcs with black people is then they do the MC Hammer dance in WoW. EDIT: Never mind, I'm wrong -- they do the Peanut Butter Jelly Time dance.
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Mar 25, 2016 18:52
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I've always treated Warcraft species as taking so many traits from different real-world cultures that they stand on their own as a referrable archetype. Sort of like how Tolkien used a lot of cultural stuff to invent the dwarves, which over time has become a codified archetype of its own.
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Mar 25, 2016 19:36
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MisterBibs posted:Sort of like how Tolkien used a lot of cultural stuff to invent the dwarves, which over time has become a codified archetype of its own. Dwarves being miners and expert craftsmen wasn't something that Tolkien invented.
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Mar 25, 2016 20:34
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Alhazred posted:Dwarves being miners and expert craftsmen wasn't something that Tolkien invented. I vaguely recall reading that Tolkien's dwarves drew a lot from Jewish culture / stereotypes, culturally/linguisticly. Searching for a home, good with metals, the way they spoke, etc. Even if that's wrong, my ultimate point is that if you fuse many disparate real world cultures into your fictional characters, it's easier for me to just describe them as their fictional characters. What do Orcs represent? Warcraft orcs. It's been around/refined enough that it's its own thing. If we were asking what Other Game Race In Another Game represents, "Warcraft Orcs" would be a simple way to define that representation. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Mar 25, 2016 |
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Mar 25, 2016 20:43
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Dwarfs being great craftsmen/miners/tech people has existed literally forever, though I think the first depiction in relatively recent pop culture would be in the 1924 version of Die Nibelungen (it's fully available on Youtube so why are you waiting, it's like the ur-fantasy flick I think even Berserk fans would dig it let alone anyone into Tolkien, I mean it's literally from "RINGS OF THE NIBELUNGEN" c'mon of course Tolkien didn't create that :P). When Siegfried spares one's life in exchange for a magic cap before the guy gives him a tour of their mine where they have huge bejeweled crowns/etc. for the giants. The Nibelungs/dwarfs in the mythology were basically the original settlers of the land but in this movie I definitely got the impression that they mined out and created all the treasure seen rather than it just being what they hoarded over the years. It has some of my favorite effects ever too. Not that they're super realistic today, just the creativity for some things in it is really awesome. Like the Lord of the Rings books it was originally created as a single but ended up being split into two films! I kind of assumed that in real life in the time periods from which typical western fantasy draws from if you were working in a mine all your life the combination of nutrition available and work would make one end up not super tall but pretty built with some engineering know how while still being uneducated in the traditional sense just to be able to be alive. Fantasy dwarfs are of course a massive exaggeration of that notion but surely circumstances like that had an effect on how we look at fantasy "races" now. Anyways Die Nibelungen is like 1000000000x the movie Warcraft will be so check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TnXruo9FlQ
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Mar 25, 2016 21:20
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Just go watch some videos with trolls and goblins, it's much more focused racism and stereotyping than orcs.
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Mar 25, 2016 21:34
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Invalid Validation posted:Just go watch some videos with trolls and goblins, it's much more focused racism and stereotyping than orcs. 
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Mar 25, 2016 21:52
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Alhazred posted:Dwarves being miners and expert craftsmen wasn't something that Tolkien invented. he did make them jews, tho.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:23
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Goblins seemed more like Jersey/Boston/New York bros than Jewish stereotypes to me. Maybe it's because I never spent a lot of time around them in WoW and my main exposure comes from Gazlowe in Heroes of the Storm.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:27
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Invalid Validation posted:Just go watch some videos with trolls and goblins, it's much more focused racism and stereotyping than orcs. Tauren are a bland generalization of Native American cultures and the Kalu'ak takes it one step further by being an offensively dated portrayal of the Inuit. The movie is going to be bad, hopefully they at least make it entertainingly bad like Street Fighter was.
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