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simble posted:That means manual. Right. Do they use mech for actual manual and manuell for DCT? Because using mech for DCT sounds pretty contradictory.
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The best thing about e46 smgs is that they actually can be converted to manual and it's not super complicated if you know a tech (or can program). I'm just waiting for the day someone puts one up for sale with a failed SMG pump...
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Crustashio posted:The best thing about e46 smgs is that they actually can be converted to manual and it's not super complicated if you know a tech (or can program). I'm just waiting for the day someone puts one up for sale with a failed SMG pump... If the BMW SMG is anything like the Alfa selespeed it's very likely that they'll pop up cheap as hell. After sperging out reading about the Alfa ones they aren't inherently unreliable, but the problem actually stems from that even authorized Alfa mechanics are clueless when it comes to diagnosing, calibrating and maintaining them. That coupled with Alfas refusal to sell the individual parts for the selespeed actuator (which is like $1000+ as a whole) led to a lovely reputation. If I remember correctly the SMG system is very similar, but I don't know if BMW are as poo poo at maintaining them as Alfa was. It's a pretty cool concept, and I'd love to try one though. When they work, and you learn to drive them properly they are supposed to be very fun.
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I see an alarming number of F30 435i's with utterly terrible fartcan exhausts on them. Why yes, I would like my brand new car to sound like a civic with a $100 ebay exhaust droning away at 55 mph on the freeway.
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Crustashio posted:The best thing about e46 smgs is that they actually can be converted to manual and it's not super complicated if you know a tech (or can program). I'm just waiting for the day someone puts one up for sale with a failed SMG pump... Way more  than I want to deal with. I've got a friend that has a couple e46 m3's that's going to keep an eye out for me, so that will be some help. My favorite things that I've seen so far include some dealer in Ohio apparently buying every manual m3 they can get their hands on and then putting them up at retarded prices and then the one I found on m3forum that includes pictures on a gravel road where it looks like the guy is blasting it around a curve. That will bring the buyers in 
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fknlo posted:Way more EAG? yeah, gently caress those guys. I think we were bitchin about them a couple of pages ago for loving up e90 manual wagon prices.
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BraveUlysses posted:EAG? yeah, gently caress those guys. Yeah, them. They have one listed at $75k 
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Crustashio posted:The best thing about e46 smgs is that they actually can be converted to manual and it's not super complicated if you know a tech (or can program). I'm just waiting for the day someone puts one up for sale with a failed SMG pump... Yep: http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/how-to-own-a-bmw-e46-m3-with-a-proper-manual-for-next-t-1747802451 I know the smg gets poo poo on everywhere but having been for a drive in one with the ZCP programming it was not as terrible as advertised on the Internet. Having the smg pump failure out of nowhere and run a couple grand does suck balls but as seen in the link above it wouldn't exactly be the end of the world. The SMG compared to the 7 speed DCT it definitely looks like crap buts that's because the DCT is so good.
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Jonny 290 posted:I am so confused right now I am too. It looks like it's setup to be rear engined but there in an engine up front what is going on here MrChips
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found it, the '767' one-off http://oppositelock.kinja.com/the-16-cylinder-bmw-that-almost-was-bmw-767i-gold-1231465406 rear cooling cause no room up front, i reckon this is like pure distilled GDCS Dear god this is amazing.
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MrChips posted:
Amazing things happen when engineers are allowed to play...     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5HZ7AEG0TQ V12 from their LeMans car slapped in a X5 on race suspension and 20" wheels. quote:The X5 V12 Le Mans had 700 hp, was capable of 0-60mph in 4.7seconds and had a electronically limited top speed of 193 mph. In an X5. That’s lunacy. But wait there’s more. Hans Stuck, BMW’s famed racing driver, took the X5 Le Mans to the Nurburgring (because they’re Germans, they must go to the ‘ring) and was able to lap it in 7 minutes 50 seconds. He was able to break the 8 minute mark on the Nurburgring Nordschleife in an X5. That time would be fast by today’s standards, but that was 15 years ago. Simply madness.
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MrOnBicycle posted:If the BMW SMG is anything like the Alfa selespeed it's very likely that they'll pop up cheap as hell. After sperging out reading about the Alfa ones they aren't inherently unreliable, but the problem actually stems from that even authorized Alfa mechanics are clueless when it comes to diagnosing, calibrating and maintaining them. That coupled with Alfas refusal to sell the individual parts for the selespeed actuator (which is like $1000+ as a whole) led to a lovely reputation. If I remember correctly the SMG system is very similar, but I don't know if BMW are as poo poo at maintaining them as Alfa was. SMGs are great, most of the hate comes from people who have never owned or never will own one.
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Ormy posted:SMGs are great, most of the hate comes from people who have never owned or never will own one. Pretty much. But the good thing about that is that the prices are low for those of us that know better than to trust the first couple of replies in every forum thread ever created about SMG:s. I take it that SMG's (like selespeeds) need calibration at least once a year to run properly? Yeah how many second hand owners are going to that? Then they whine about how lovely it is. But who cares, like I said, the reputation means that it's cheaper.
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Ormy posted:SMGs are great, most of the hate comes from people who have never owned or never will own one. I don't want one because of personal preference. That's really it. If I found a good enough deal on one where I thought doing the 6 speed conversion would be worth it I'd buy one. That's about it though.
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I'm willing to bet it's significantly better for track use vs daily driver duty. I thought I saw somewhere on a blog a few years ago someone did data acquisition crunching of two similar e46m3s (mt vs smg) on a track and it illustrated the benefits of smg pretty well.
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They're only a little annoying to park; I dailyed mine and parked on a pretty steep hill every day, it was fine. The shifts are faster than any human could ever do and it feels so so awesome keeping your foot in and just clicking up, it made me feel like a race driver.
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I guess, I prefer feeling like an 80's rally car driver with my three pedals.
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Ether Frenzy posted:I see an alarming number of F30 435i's with utterly terrible fartcan exhausts on them. Why yes, I would like my brand new car to sound like a civic with a $100 ebay exhaust droning away at 55 mph on the freeway. If they appear to be stock they might actually be the "BMW M-Performance" sport exhaust, it's a port delivery upgrade item. I had one put on my F10 535 (manual transmission) and it sounds great to me. These new cars are way too quiet.
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MrChips posted:
I thought the V12 in my 850 was ludicrous. Can only imagine how expensive plug wires would be on that beast.
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Keyser S0ze posted:If they appear to be stock they might actually be the "BMW M-Performance" sport exhaust, it's a port delivery upgrade item. I had one put on my F10 535 (manual transmission) and it sounds great to me. These new cars are way too quiet. Yeah, I can't see that these particular ones I've seen are something that BMW would do as a stock option because I imagine I see those all the time and don't even notice them because they sound okay, I live in LA after all - But I've noticed three recently in my neck of the woods that all were just blatting out a very unflattering drone at 45-55 mph on the 101, all were 435i's, and I imagine the drivers of them think it sounds aggressive rather than 'slightly broken'. Speaking of aggressive sounding cars, I rolled up next to a 427 Shelby Cobra last night on the drive home, revved up to ~8000 as firmly as possible, and I couldn't even hear it myself inside my own car because the drat Shelby sounded like a lopey top fuel dragster about to stage.
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oh L.A. - gotcha.......prob modder FnF bro's running some cheapo fartcans then. Haven't seen that in Norcal yet.
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Yeah, the flat-brim ratio to driver level was pretty high across this cross-section of the population.
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BraveUlysses posted:I'm willing to bet it's significantly better for track use vs daily driver duty. I've played with a few E46 M3's with SMG over the years and honestly I didn't find them that bad on the street, sure not great but not terrible. On the track I really loved it even though I still refer the 'slower' mechanical 6-speed.
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Does it seem like E90 M3 prices are going up or am I just imagining things? Maybe as I get closer to purchasing a car my requirements get a little crazy (manual, sedan, 09+, preferably less than 45k mi) and that drives the price up. Separate but related, is it insanity to own an E9x M3 without a warranty or is it typical BMW forums garbage where a few vocal people drown out a majority of owners that have few issues?
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Dad has a 12k mile '08 E90. He just got notice from BMW that it's part of the airbag recall and that dealers are not selling those airbag cars, nor are they taking them in trade. ETA for replacement is late this year, into next year. I think that's going to make a temporary spike in all BMWs of that age, since it's going to be solely private-party sales for a while.
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fknlo posted:How do you and I keep ending up looking at basically the same poo poo? I'd probably be on the E90 train too but I don't want to spend that much at the moment. We need a support group. I was all over the drat place until I found out my wife was pregnant and my options narrowed significantly. I think the airbag recall idea might be right. This is going to suck. Maybe buying a car with the open recall isn't a solid idea at this point. What else lives in the same realm as an E90 M3? When your criteria is manual, sedan, and RWD your options shrink considerably. The best alternative I've come up with in that range ($35-40k cap) is a Cadillac CTS-V. That's a lot of car for $35k but I'm not sure I want to own a drat Cadillac. What else is out there?
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:Does it seem like E90 M3 prices are going up or am I just imagining things? Maybe as I get closer to purchasing a car my requirements get a little crazy (manual, sedan, 09+, preferably less than 45k mi) and that drives the price up. Prices on the Coupe had been pretty plateau'd for like 4 years and both models are probably creeping up a bit now due to the realization that they aren't making cars like this that are affordable to the regular guy as much any more. I first started trying to convince my PO to sell me mine on MLK day 2013 and, in early Jan 2015 he finally sold it to me for the same price we'd agreed upon then. (He'd only put on 400 miles in that time.) I don't have a warranty and I don't feel concerned about it all. Car has been extremely bulletproof and I drive it with enthusiasm every time I start it up. Granted mine only had 16k miles on it when I got it but I've been dailying it since getting it and have had no issues. In ~7k miles and a year and a few months now, I've had to get the oil changed twice, I had to get a new battery (replacing the 7 year old original), and one of my angel eye bulbs (also an original bulb) went out. That's it for maintenance. I'm blackstoning my oil each time, and keeping an eye on the Dreaded Rod Bearing issue (which I may just do as a preventative measure.) My drivers side door locking mechanism seems to not always unlock when I pull the handle, which also seems to be a pretty common problem, it's an easy enough fix but I don't like pulling interiors apart unless it's critical and since you can unlock the door with the unlock button in the dash I have been ignoring it. Obviously you should be able to afford a healthy chunk of maintenance if it comes up or you should probably not own this car, but I've been pleased so far with how trouble-and-expense free it has been. I've spent far more in detailing products than I have in anything else for the car. From what I can tell from reading E9x forums it's a pretty small percentage that ever even get the rod bearing issue, probably less than 4% based on forum estimations/polling the membership group. Only the people with issues bitch about it, everyone else stays silent if they're not part of the group already, so it's probably not even that high. Costs about $2500 to fix ahead of time, or $20k if you frag your motor instead. The car is so fun to drive I never ever ever worry about it and will get it done ahead of time if my blackstone analysis shows any sign of even coming close to it being an issue. Mine's an E92, but so far isn't part of the airbag recall. Fingers crossed.
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fknlo posted:How do you and I keep ending up looking at basically the same poo poo? I'd probably be on the E90 train too but I don't want to spend that much at the moment. Because there isnt a person on this earth who wouldnt say no to an E9x M3. Absolutely no person.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Because there isnt a person on this earth who wouldnt say no to an E9x M3. Over the last year or so, at some point or another, we've both considered a 996 Turbo, 997 everything, I think a GT350, and probably some other things I'm forgetting. But yes, the E9x M3 is so perfect in so many ways.
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I feel like this is a steal and I already own one! http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/5468003436.html
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"NO TEST DRIVES UNLESS YOU HAVE THE MONEY" Good luck rear end in a top hat.
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Cash in hand is something you do for maybe a 500-1500 dollar car. No one is going to go around town with 14K in their pocket.
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Cojawfee posted:Cash in hand is something you do for maybe a 500-1500 dollar car. No one is going to go around town with 14K in their pocket. I've handed 15K in cash to someone before for an M3. As long as proper precautions are taken, it's every bit as no-hassle as the $1500 transaction.
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So I've been talking with a friend about buying his current DD - a '95 540i/6. Alpine white on tan. It's in fantastic shape mechanically, exterior ain't bad either. Only engine mod is a chip. It's getting a steering rack conversion right now. It's got some spring / shock combo on it that I can't remember. Aluminum rad, and a bunch of big stuff like rear main seal and whatnot done. Needs nothing but oil changes for a long time. If I buy it, I was going to have him toss on some coilovers, a magnaflow or something for some noise, and a set of ACS Type 2s. It would replace my 135i as my DD. I have a 70 mile round trip commute to work, mostly traffic free interstate. I've got a gutted and swapped e30 as a toy / garage hog right now too. I wanted to pick it up because it's a good deal on a very well taken care of example. I'ts one of those bucket list cars too - I've always heard how great e34 540i/6s are and this one will have a steering rack! I also hated racking up miles on the 135i (20k a year minimum) and leaving it at airports when I go on travel. The thing is, I still owe something like 13k on the 135i. The owner of the e34 is after a 135i and may be willing to work out a trade - I've got the cash to end up with a decent amount left to spare if the car is worth ~$12k. Feels like 135i's have depreciated a lot. 95k miles doesn't help! The financially sound option is either to keep the 135i and pay it off / crank up the boost and have fun with it, or to trade it for the e34 and throw the remainder at the e30. The AI option is to keep all three and have 3 unfinished projects. I feel like if I got rid of the 135i before experiencing the ~450whp they are capable of with bolt ons I'd regret it.
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