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Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

ianmacdo posted:

Think intelligence is fixed? You’re more likely to overestimate your own
"A new study published in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology found that believing that intelligence is fixed makes people more likely to overestimate their own intelligence and therefore less likely to develop their own intellectual capacity."

When I read this, i instantly thought of this thread.

There's a good reason for that.

*cough* cingulate *cough*

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darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Unbelievably Fat Man posted:

I think it was the creepy sex thread in Ask/Tell, but yeah, basically the pot calling their own gay werewolf mpreg son black.

It was the pyf porn, tits and rear end threads if I remember right. Admittedly they were creepy and there's a pretty big difference between writing porn off-site and having on-site "here is what I am wanking to" circlejerks.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

ianmacdo posted:

Think intelligence is fixed? You’re more likely to overestimate your own
"A new study published in the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology found that believing that intelligence is fixed makes people more likely to overestimate their own intelligence and therefore less likely to develop their own intellectual capacity."

When I read this, i instantly thought of this thread.

Isn't that just the dunning-kreuger effect or however it's spelled?

Edit: oh this includes belief that intelligence is fixed, ok

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

There's a good reason for that.

*cough* cingulate *cough*
What precisely keeps you from making your point explicit?

(Your thought is most likely wrong and really stupid, but that doesn't make it illegal.)

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Isn't that just the dunning-kreuger effect or however it's spelled?

Edit: oh this includes belief that intelligence is fixed, ok
It's actually about growth mindset, so expect Scott to blog about it soon. Also, the headline reifies the concept of one trait intelligence ...

My personal guess is this is not a replicable result. It smells like just the kind of stuff that fails to replicate constantly right now.

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Cingulate posted:

What precisely keeps you from making your point explicit?
(Your thought is most likely wrong and really stupid, but that doesn't make it illegal.)

I didn't have a point, but you're really into the whole "intelligence quantification" thing and I thought you would get riled if I said that.

:love:

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

I didn't have a point, but you're really into the whole "intelligence quantification" thing and I thought you would get riled if I said that.

:love:
I'm really into the "not being overconfident, especially on issues with political implications" thing. Unlike

*cough* a lot of people *cough*

Scratch-O
Apr 27, 2009

My goodness!
New study shows that objective measurement of intelligence is impossible due to the principle of mmblhbluh pedantic garbage says "what" Huh, how about that!

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Scratch-O posted:

New study shows that objective measurement of intelligence is impossible due to the principle of mmblhbluh pedantic garbage says "what" Huh, how about that!
As a strict Popperian, I for one believe nothing can be objectively measured (there are no protocol sentences/every observation is theory laden). But there could still be useful attempts to measure a trait - a much lower, but also arguably almost as important achievement.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Cingulate posted:

As a strict Popperian, I for one believe nothing can be objectively measured (there are no protocol sentences/every observation is theory laden). But there could still be useful attempts to measure a trait - a much lower, but also arguably almost as important achievement.

Did I ever tell you about the man who taught his rear end in a top hat to talk? His whole abdomen would move up and down you dig farting out the words. It was unlike anything I ever heard.

This rear end talk had sort of a gut frequency. It hit you right down there like you gotta go. You know when the old colon gives you the elbow and it feels sorta cold inside, and you know all you have to do is turn loose? Well this talking hit you right down there, a bubbly, thick stagnant sound, a sound you could smell.

This man worked for a carnival you dig, and to start with it was like a novelty ventriliquist act. Real funny, too, at first. He had a number he called “The Better ‘Ole” that was a scream, I tell you. I forget most of it but it was clever. Like, “Oh I say, are you still down there, old thing?”

“Nah I had to go relieve myself.”

After a while the rear end start talking on its own. He would go in without anything prepared and his rear end would ad-lib and toss the gags back at him every time.

Then it developed sort of teeth-like little raspy in-curving hooks and started eating. He thought this was cute at first and built an act around it, but the rear end in a top hat would eat its way through his pants and start talking on the street, shouting out it wanted equal rights. It would get drunk, too, and have crying jags nobody loved it and it wanted to be kissed same as any other mouth. Finally it talked all the time day and night, you could hear him for blocks screaming at it to shut up, and beating it with his fist, and sticking candles up it, but nothing did any good and the rear end in a top hat said to him: “It’s you who will shut up in the end. Not me. Because we dont need you around here any more. I can talk and eat and poo poo.”

After that he began waking up in the morning with a transparent jelly like a tadpole’s tail all over his mouth. This jelly was what the scientists call un-D.T., Undifferentiated Tissue, which can grow into any kind of flesh on the human body. He would tear it off his mouth and the pieces would stick to his hands like burning gasoline jelly and grow there, grow anywhere on him a glob of it fell. So finally his mouth sealed over, and the whole head would have have amputated spontaneous, except for the eyes you dig. Thats one thing the rear end in a top hat couldn’t do was see. It needed the eyes. But nerve connections were blocked and infiltrated and atrophied so the brain couldn’t give orders any more. It was trapped in the skull, sealed off. For a while you could see the silent, helpless suffering of the brain behind the eyes, then finally the brain must have died, because the eyes went out, and there was no more feeling in them than a crab’s eyes on the end of a stalk.

GIANT OUIJA BOARD
Aug 22, 2011

177 Years of Your Dick
All
Night
Non
Stop

Cingulate posted:

As a strict Popperian, I for one believe nothing can be objectively measured (there are no protocol sentences/every observation is theory laden). But there could still be useful attempts to measure a trait - a much lower, but also arguably almost as important achievement.

Shut up

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Cingulate posted:

As a strict Popperian, I for one believe nothing can be objectively measured (there are no protocol sentences/every observation is theory laden). But there could still be useful attempts to measure a trait - a much lower, but also arguably almost as important achievement.

:gary:

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Cingulate posted:

As a strict Popperian, I for one believe nothing can be objectively measured (there are no protocol sentences/every observation is theory laden). But there could still be useful attempts to measure a trait - a much lower, but also arguably almost as important achievement.

Joseph Addison posted:

A Man who has been brought up among Books, and is able to talk of nothing else, is what we call a Pedant. But, methinks, we should enlarge the Title, and give it to every one that does not know how to think out of his Profession and particular way of Life.

Actually, come to think of it, that quote is the entire dark enlightenment in two sentences, although presumably the books Addison were thinking of were a bit more substantial than Moldbug's or Yudkowsky's favorites. Imagine a guy in that era who cannot think of anything except in relation to chivalric romances or Robinsonesques. :v:

Woolie Wool has a new favorite as of 01:09 on Mar 23, 2016

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx

Cingulate posted:

As a strict Popperian, I for one believe nothing can be objectively measured (there are no protocol sentences/every observation is theory laden). But there could still be useful attempts to measure a trait - a much lower, but also arguably almost as important achievement.
Doesn't that make you a follower of Peirce or something

THAT'S MY PEIRCE
I DON'T KNOW YOU

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Woolie Wool posted:

Actually, come to think of it, that quote is the entire dark enlightenment in two sentences, although presumably the books Addison were thinking of were a bit more substantial than Moldbug's or Yudkowsky's favorites. Imagine a guy in that era who cannot think of anything except in relation to chivalric romances or Robinsonesques. :v:

Ohhh man would I ever read Don Quixote But With Bitcoin.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
After many anon messages telling him "you really should read the Sequences/Scott Alexander/Nydwracu", Phil Sandifer offers to read these things for $20 of cash money. Someone takes him up on it, specifically "I Can Tolerate Anything Except The Outgroup". (The sponsor is actually a Phil fan who couldn't read all the way through that one either.) Phil realises he priced his time for this dreck way too cheap. stormingtheivory offers to do the next one for $100.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

divabot posted:

After many anon messages telling him "you really should read the Sequences/Scott Alexander/Nydwracu", Phil Sandifer offers to read these things for $20 of cash money. Someone takes him up on it, specifically "I Can Tolerate Anything Except The Outgroup". (The sponsor is actually a Phil fan who couldn't read all the way through that one either.) Phil realises he priced his time for this dreck way too cheap. stormingtheivory offers to do the next one for $100.

That post is great.

I bet that post about Osama Bin Laden is no longer the worst response Scott has ever gotten, given the poo poo he's written about since then.

Dr. Akimbo
Oct 29, 2011

Yes Jim, that is the loving point of them, nobody just says their safeword for funsies you loving sociopath.
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Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Cingulate posted:

I'm really into the "people except me not being overconfident, especially on issues with political implications" thing. Unlike

*cough* a lot of people *cough*

FTFY

Cingulate
Oct 23, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Why are you keeping it so vague?

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
So has Justine Tunney done anything lately? She still around? She still darkly enlightened?

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx

The Vosgian Beast posted:

So has Justine Tunney done anything lately? She still around? She still darkly enlightened?
https://twitter.com/JustineTunney/status/706890182654631937

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!



Confirmed: Trump plans to expel all trans people to their own separate but equal country.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Hey, this kind of thing worked out for Ernst Röhm! :v:

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

AHAHAHAHAHAHA God bless this woman.

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Did I ever tell you about the man who taught his rear end in a top hat to talk? His whole abdomen would move up and down you dig farting out the words. It was unlike anything I ever heard.

This rear end talk had sort of a gut frequency. It hit you right down there like you gotta go. You know when the old colon gives you the elbow and it feels sorta cold inside, and you know all you have to do is turn loose? Well this talking hit you right down there, a bubbly, thick stagnant sound, a sound you could smell.

This man worked for a carnival you dig, and to start with it was like a novelty ventriliquist act. Real funny, too, at first. He had a number he called “The Better ‘Ole” that was a scream, I tell you. I forget most of it but it was clever. Like, “Oh I say, are you still down there, old thing?”

“Nah I had to go relieve myself.”

After a while the rear end start talking on its own. He would go in without anything prepared and his rear end would ad-lib and toss the gags back at him every time.

Then it developed sort of teeth-like little raspy in-curving hooks and started eating. He thought this was cute at first and built an act around it, but the rear end in a top hat would eat its way through his pants and start talking on the street, shouting out it wanted equal rights. It would get drunk, too, and have crying jags nobody loved it and it wanted to be kissed same as any other mouth. Finally it talked all the time day and night, you could hear him for blocks screaming at it to shut up, and beating it with his fist, and sticking candles up it, but nothing did any good and the rear end in a top hat said to him: “It’s you who will shut up in the end. Not me. Because we dont need you around here any more. I can talk and eat and poo poo.”

After that he began waking up in the morning with a transparent jelly like a tadpole’s tail all over his mouth. This jelly was what the scientists call un-D.T., Undifferentiated Tissue, which can grow into any kind of flesh on the human body. He would tear it off his mouth and the pieces would stick to his hands like burning gasoline jelly and grow there, grow anywhere on him a glob of it fell. So finally his mouth sealed over, and the whole head would have have amputated spontaneous, except for the eyes you dig. Thats one thing the rear end in a top hat couldn’t do was see. It needed the eyes. But nerve connections were blocked and infiltrated and atrophied so the brain couldn’t give orders any more. It was trapped in the skull, sealed off. For a while you could see the silent, helpless suffering of the brain behind the eyes, then finally the brain must have died, because the eyes went out, and there was no more feeling in them than a crab’s eyes on the end of a stalk.
:golfclap:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Patrick Spens posted:

AHAHAHAHAHAHA God bless this woman.

I showed my bff and he was all "we get it already Justine, you're awful, good job I guess"

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
http://raggedjackscarlet.tumblr.com/post/139384853583/fuckboy-is-basically-that-which-is-why-i

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Hah. Is there any difference between "fuckboy" as this person understands it and how DJ Khaled (et al.) does?

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Off-topic, but where did you find this?

FYI I only just learned this week that that "Two Wolves" "Indian" parable was made up by Billy Graham in 1978 and has nothing to do with any real Native traditions, which makes the comic extra-funny.

E: Nvm, It's an edit of this

Pththya-lyi has a new favorite as of 00:08 on Mar 25, 2016

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
Ragged Jack Scarlet is the author of the wonderful fan theory Undertale Prime, which was greeted with great hilarity by anyone with the slightest media literacy. The theory is that the game Undertale reads to him like just s-j-w fanonisation of a real game. He does better meta than most of the rationalsphere, which means worse than anyone who knows what they're talking about. Give him 6000 words a post and he'll be Scott.

In other amusement, Phil Sandifer is still pissed off at reading that loving Scott piece.

edit: oh, Phil's noticed Jack.

divabot has a new favorite as of 02:07 on Mar 25, 2016

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

divabot posted:

Ragged Jack Scarlet is the author of the wonderful fan theory Undertale Prime, which was greeted with great hilarity by anyone with the slightest media literacy.

Bu... But SJWS ARE THE ONES THAT DO MENTAL GYMNASTICS

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Speaking of mental gymnastics and deceptions, what was it with the Michael Moore interview with him? Is there actually any muting going on cause frankly with these people lying is just revising reality.

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

Annointed posted:

Speaking of mental gymnastics and deceptions, what was it with the Michael Moore interview with him? Is there actually any muting going on cause frankly with these people lying is just revising reality.

With who? Link?

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
The other important point about Undertale Prime was that it was written without ever having played the game - it is based only on knowledge of it gleaned trough Tumblr.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

With who? Link?

With Sargon

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sUD1RvFWzeE

Apparently the excuse is that Sargon was "muted" regarding the "regressive left" definition, as in defining what that exactly means.

Apparently there is a video from Sargon with Michael Brooks that's "uncensored", which for me could mean that he edited it in post to save face.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

divabot posted:

The other important point about Undertale Prime was that it was written without ever having played the game - it is based only on knowledge of it gleaned trough Tumblr.

I'm really glad I don't spend much time on tumblr since as far as I can tell Undertale has become the new Homestuck in terms of godawful fans ruining everything

I liked the game and I have intentionally avoided everything else related to the game for that reason :colbert:

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

I'm really glad I don't spend much time on tumblr since as far as I can tell Undertale has become the new Homestuck in terms of godawful fans ruining everything

I liked the game and I have intentionally avoided everything else related to the game for that reason :colbert:

Wimp

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
https://twitter.com/joolsd/status/331199351118520323

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
I have been corrected, Ragged Jack Scarlet did in fact play Undertale. His ludicrously terrible discourse on it is in fact anchored to the thing.

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Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/supermarlobrand/status/711808201197420544

NRx dilemma: on one hand you hate demotism, but you love Trump

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