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A Catholic monk criticized Polish Prime Minister Beata Szydlo and her supporters for refusing to take in any refugees. Momentally a shitstorm in the comments ensued, as Polish Catholics wanted to know how the gently caress this guy dares to evaluate someone's else's faith. 
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Last year you may remember we used satellite imagery to examine craters from artillery attacks in Eastern Ukraine which, in combination with additional evidence, proved Russia had been launching artillery attacks in Ukraine from Russian territory. Now in the Savchenko trial the exaxt same methodology was used by a prosecution expert witness to prove Ukrainian artillery fired into Russia, citing Bellingcat and winning praise from the judge https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2016/03/25/russian-prosecution-cites-bellingcat-methods-in-savchenko-trial/ So now we've had a nice precedent set in a Russian court for a methodology we developed being acceptable evidence to prove the origin of artillery attacks, which is always handy.
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Mar 25, 2016 08:05
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The best way to spot for artillery is clearly with a bag over your head. Edit: Speaking of Savchenko, Ukraine says she's to be returned. Here's the original article if anyone reads Russian: http://grani.ru/Politics/Russia/Politzeki/m.249858.html anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Mar 25, 2016 |
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Mar 25, 2016 08:31
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So Bellingcat is accurate when it's in Russia's favor? Of course it doesn't do any good to point out the contradiction. After sentencing her to 22 years in prison they worked out a prisoner exchange deal with Ukraine it seems. I imagine that was part of the plan all along, with the announcement she would be returned to Ukraine coming hours after her sentencing.
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Mar 25, 2016 19:26
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There isn't really any confirmation of this happening, FWIW, and this seems to be the only source.
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Mar 25, 2016 19:31
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:So Bellingcat is accurate when it's in Russia's favor? Of course it doesn't do any good to point out the contradiction. The Savchenko farce has served effectively as a tool for the politically obtuse liberal opposition to further discredit itself in the eyes of most Russians. A quiet exchange after the kangaroo trial is over is the most logical outcome because there's no upside to keeping her locked up and no downside to performing the exchange.
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Mar 25, 2016 21:52
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The Pope, in a gesture of humility, washed feet of some refugees. A lot of Polish Catholics didn't take it well. Some Facebook quotes:
These are the same people who usually present themselves as ultra-orthodox and maintain that you have to completely adhere to everything a priest teaches you to be even a passable Catholic.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:01
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OddObserver posted:There isn't really any confirmation of this happening, FWIW, and this seems to be the only source. Now Tymoshenko (aka "Her") is claiming it, FWIW.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:03
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This Pope isn't even Polish, what a fraud.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:03
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Gantolandon posted:The Pope, in a gesture of humility, washed feet of some refugees. A lot of Polish Catholics didn't take it well. bleh
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Mar 25, 2016 22:04
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gently caress those pretend Catholics. poo poo like this makes me almost as angry as the Prosperity Gospel.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:08
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:gently caress those pretend Catholics. poo poo like this makes me almost as angry as the Prosperity Gospel. The Pope should start excommunicating people again, imho.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:10
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:gently caress those pretend Catholics. poo poo like this makes me almost as angry as the Prosperity Gospel. Fun fact: there is a priest in Poland that runs a charity organization and espouses what is pretty much a Catholic version of the Prosperity Gospel.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:23
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steinrokkan posted:The Pope should start excommunicating people again, imho.
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Mar 25, 2016 22:32
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The Pope should excommunicate countries. He does but the bar is too high for anyone to reach.
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Mar 25, 2016 23:03
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It's really lame when papal authority falls so low you can't even excommunicate or call crusades
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Mar 25, 2016 23:13
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Polish paleoconservative catholics should elect an antipope for maximum hilarity.
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Mar 25, 2016 23:38
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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I wonder how many bishops would send thier taxes to him
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Mar 25, 2016 23:40
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Bring back the Great Schism. Everyone excommunicate each other and get on to more important things.
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Mar 25, 2016 23:57
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Gantolandon posted:The Pope, in a gesture of humility, washed feet of some refugees. A lot of Polish Catholics didn't take it well. "We need to keep Muslim refugees out to preserve Catholic Polish culture. Also, gently caress the Pope, he's a pagan antichrist communist." Someone get some Evangelicals over to Poland stat. I'd apologize for advocating making Poland worse, but you'd barely notice the difference. It would just be hilarious to see Protestantism spring up in Poland, because the Pope treated some Muslim refugees as people  .
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Mar 26, 2016 00:21
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Friendly Humour posted:I wonder how many bishops would send thier taxes to him
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Mar 26, 2016 10:45
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DrProsek posted:"We need to keep Muslim refugees out to preserve Catholic Polish culture. Also, gently caress the Pope, he's a pagan antichrist communist." Eh, they're already here in all but name. I've mentioned this before, but the religious-conservative crowd is hugely influenced by American evangelical thought. Catholic creationists are a thing, a lot of the popular anti-gay and anti-feminist arguments are straight from evangelical theology, and they even imported all of the old Protestant moral panics. I remember the priest at school warning us about the spiritual dangers of tabletop RPG's and showing a subtitled VHS "documentary" about satanic ritual abuse - and this was in the early 2000's, years after even most American biblethumpers had long abandoned belief in that stuff. Honestly if the Pope says "you should take in refugees" during his visit, I wouldn't rule out some sort comical, first-as-tragedy-then-as-farce schism, or at least some organized right-wing opposition to the Pope materializing beyond the current complaints. There are thousands of devout Catholics who agree with Francis on literally nothing, it's just that so far actual Vatican influence in Poland was small and they could safely ignore him. The papal visit could bring this conflict to a head.
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Mar 26, 2016 13:44
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How about some news from Ukraine? It appears the Russian-backed militants may be ramping up their attacks. There is shelling in Horlivka and some Ukrainian doctors were attacked. http://www.dialog.ua/news/81874_1459024968 quote:Attacking militants during the evacuation of the wounded Ukrainian soldiers from Avdeevka industrial zone, where more than one day, the militants fired at positions of the anti-terrorist operation.
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Mar 27, 2016 00:53
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:How about some news from Ukraine? Casualty numbers seem to be going up, too. 2 KIA, 11WIA over the last 24-hour period there was a report on...
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Mar 27, 2016 01:13
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Death to the separatists. Death to Putin.
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Mar 27, 2016 07:32
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This has been part of a steady trend of violence as spring comes around, field guns are being fired again, thankfully no GRADs. I don't think it's even clear what the separatists are fighting for at this point besides fighting against stability, not even Russia is going to recognize your depopulated hell state, just let it end. In other news, separatists have apparently run out of DPR flags and have switched to good old bolshevik red.
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Mar 27, 2016 09:20
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sparatuvs posted:This has been part of a steady trend of violence as spring comes around, field guns are being fired again, thankfully no GRADs. I don't think it's even clear what the separatists are fighting for at this point besides fighting against stability, not even Russia is going to recognize your depopulated hell state, just let it end. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Mar 27, 2016 |
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Mar 27, 2016 09:50
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anilEhilated posted:It makes sense for Russia to support them and urge them to keep fighting; the bigger the clusterfuck, the less attention on Crimea which has been the real prize. The vast majority of fighters are not actually directly controlled by Russia, I guess they don't see much to go home to, and would rather just be leaders of their flock of homo sovieticus.
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Mar 27, 2016 09:58
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Doesn't need to be direct control, just propaganda: just be good little insurgents, kill some more of those fascist pigdogs for us and we'll definitely take you into Mother Russia's loving embrace. Yeah, next time. Pinky swear, cross our border and hope to die.
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Mar 27, 2016 10:04
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Guildencrantz posted:Eh, they're already here in all but name. I've mentioned this before, but the religious-conservative crowd is hugely influenced by American evangelical thought. Catholic creationists are a thing, a lot of the popular anti-gay and anti-feminist arguments are straight from evangelical theology, and they even imported all of the old Protestant moral panics. I remember the priest at school warning us about the spiritual dangers of tabletop RPG's and showing a subtitled VHS "documentary" about satanic ritual abuse - and this was in the early 2000's, years after even most American biblethumpers had long abandoned belief in that stuff. I would elaborate how much the Polish Catholic Church is out of control, but instead I'm going to leave here a quote from a Polish priest. "It's a myth! There is no such quote in the Holy Scripture where Jesus tells people to share their wealth. It's Cathomarxism, a collection of stereotypes which are used to create a religion. Jesus didn't say anything about sharing their income. He helped the poor, but had plenty of rich friends and didn't tell them "Oi, you have too much money, give some off."
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Gantolandon posted:I would elaborate how much the Polish Catholic Church is out of control, but instead I'm going to leave here a quote from a Polish priest. Oh look I went as far as translating the Supply Side Jesus comic just for the occasion, back when Father Jacek said what had to be said about Cathomarxism. Sadly, didn't take wykop.pl by storm, I wonder what gives... Here it is http://imgur.com/a/g7TwX/ Anne Frank Funk fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Mar 27, 2016 |
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Mar 27, 2016 19:05
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Pierogi posted:Oh look I went as far as translating the Supply Side Jesus comic just for the occasion, back when Father Jacek said what had to be said about Cathomarxism. Sadly, didn't take wykop.pl by storm, I wonder what gives... It's beautiful 
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Mar 27, 2016 20:12
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Pierogi posted:Oh look I went as far as translating the Supply Side Jesus comic just for the occasion, back when Father Jacek said what had to be said about Cathomarxism. Sadly, didn't take wykop.pl by storm, I wonder what gives...  Happy Easter goons. Supply Side Jesus is risen. Alleluja alleluja alleluja!
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Mar 27, 2016 21:28
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Holy poo poo, Polish Catholicism is disgusting.
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Mar 27, 2016 22:41
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It's honestly amazing how far back the Soviet Union set back leftism around the world with their bullcrap.
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Mar 28, 2016 00:50
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drilldo squirt posted:It's honestly amazing how far back the Soviet Union set back leftism around the world with their bullcrap. Yeah, Bolshevism turned altruism into a dirty word. Nowadays having any sort of social agenda in the formed Eastern Block is like being a mutant product of incest.
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Mar 28, 2016 00:55
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The recent Ukraine developments have me a little worried. I've got a friend who is flying back to visit family for a week at the end of April, how hard should I be trying to talk them out of it? e: Family in Kaniv, for reference.
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Mar 28, 2016 02:12
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bango skank posted:The recent Ukraine developments have me a little worried. I've got a friend who is flying back to visit family for a week at the end of April, how hard should I be trying to talk them out of it? West of the Dnieper you should be safe. I wouldn't go to Kharkov, or anywhere in Donbass obviously. April will probably not be a good month for Ukraine, both sides are already talking about spring offensives and the ceasefire north of Donetsk completely collapsed last afternoon. e:woops meant west. ass struggle fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Mar 28, 2016 |
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Mar 28, 2016 02:42
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sparatuvs posted:East of the Dnieper you should be safe. I wouldn't go to Kharkov, or anywhere in Donbass obviously. April will probably not be a good month for Ukraine, both sides are already talking about spring offensives and the ceasefire north of Donetsk completely collapsed last afternoon. Thanks for the reply, I talked to him about it earlier tonight and turns out he's not going til May so while it's still a risky thing at least we'll be able to see what the spring brings before he heads out I guess.
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Unless Putin goes full  and decides to take Kiev, it should be fine. I have family there and outside of maidan there's been absolutely nothing there to worry about so far.
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