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Skaw posted:Certainly developed the political opinions of a Teen Girl. Good job, Microsoft. 
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Phanatic posted:You don't design the next 50 years of capability based around the adversaries you're fighting today, right now. That's what Gates did when he cut the F-22 buy in favor of the F-35s and seriously compromised us in the event of a real war against a near-peer. But then, what is the difference between an expensive military tech project that is absolutely necessary and will help us fight the war of the future, and an expensive military tech project that is a waste of money that could be used for something else?
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Mar 25, 2016 02:18
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Maxwell Lord posted:But then, what is the difference between an expensive military tech project that is absolutely necessary and will help us fight the war of the future, and an expensive military tech project that is a waste of money that could be used for something else? That's sort of what people spend their careers trying to figure out, and what you elect them to determine. Given the fallibility of human foresight sometimes you don't find out until you've already hosed up.
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Mar 25, 2016 02:45
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Phanatic posted:You don't design the next 50 years of capability based around the adversaries you're fighting today, right now. That's what Gates did when he cut the F-22 buy in favor of the F-35s and seriously compromised us in the event of a real war against a near-peer. Also the overwhelming majority of the time, militaries do just that, plan based on current conditions. It's the reason we've had such a hard time fighting guerrilla wars in the Middle East, because we don't have the training or equipment for it because everything is based around conventional warfare. The F-22 was designed and built during the Cold War to combat the proposed MiG. The Soviet Union collapsed, we built it anyway. Your other point is off base also. It's not "do we use the B-2 or let it sit there," it's "we're designing a new plane, does it need these features that the last one never needed."
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Here's one from my childhood. An ad for a bubble bath that starts with an animated little girl shouting "I want my clothes off!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HGQsWPNpus
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Mar 25, 2016 02:49
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OniPanda posted:Also the overwhelming majority of the time, militaries do just that, plan based on current conditions. It's the reason we've had such a hard time fighting guerrilla wars in the Middle East, because we don't have the training or equipment for it because everything is based around conventional warfare. Ironically, the U.S. Army finally mastered insurgency tactics at the expense of conventional fighting skills. At the tail end of the Iraqi surge they realized something like 90% of their units were unable to fire artillery accurately. Those might have been scare numbers to get more funding. I have no idea what percent of units are supposed to fire artillery accurately. Maybe 20%? The trend towards guerrilla fighting did hurt conventional war training, though.
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Mar 25, 2016 14:25
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Krispy Kareem posted:Ironically, the U.S. Army finally mastered insurgency tactics at the expense of conventional fighting skills. At the tail end of the Iraqi surge they realized something like 90% of their units were unable to fire artillery accurately. See also air-to-air warfare in the Vietnam war which highlighted aerial combat skills issues[1] [1] Intro to Top Gun
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OniPanda posted:What near-peer exists that wouldn't be screwed if we weren't selling them weapons? It's more fluid than that. Russia, for one. Russia has scarily-effect SAM systems and is selling them to everyone, S-300s are *everywhere* and if a non-stealth airframe gets within missile range of that system, odds are good that that plane's not making it home. Even if you're not going to war against Russia, saying "Well, in the next 50-70 years we're not going to war with anyone Russia sells stuff to" isn't good planning. quote:Which one exists that we aren't selling weapons to that would actually rival us in 15-20 years even if we completely stopped all new acquisition and development? That's a much bigger list than you think. Our current dedicated air-superiority plane, the F-15C, last rolled off the production line in 1992, and they have literally started falling apart in midair through structural fatigue. quote:Also the overwhelming majority of the time, militaries do just that, plan based on current conditions. It's a dumb idea and has repeatedly proven to be a dumb idea. quote:It's the reason we've had such a hard time fighting guerrilla wars in the Middle East, because we don't have the training or equipment for it because everything is based around conventional warfare. Right. So now you advocate that what we should do is just plan to fight nothing but guerrilla wars in the Middle East for the next 50 years? quote:The F-22 was designed and built during the Cold War to combat the proposed MiG. The Soviet Union collapsed, we built it anyway. Your other point is off base also. It's not "do we use the B-2 or let it sit there," it's "we're designing a new plane, does it need these features that the last one never needed." Again, you design for the missions you anticipate. Designing a new heavy bomber that can't enter contested airspace and can't operate without supremacy is not good planning. The best weapon for bombing ISIS is probably an extended range Reaper, but there's a whole bunch of poo poo that *can't* do, so unless you want no ability to do anything other than bomb ISIS for 50 years you need to do other things too. Could you send enough big old bomb trucks to bomb sites protected by modern missile systems to get the job done? Yeah, probably, but a bunch of them wouldn't make it home, and a bunch of their crews wouldn't make it home, and that's something that limits our options, and planning to limit your options is a bad thing. Right now, every single thing our military does is predicated on air superiority, and if you want to maintain that in the face of proliferation of modern SAMs, that means low-observable designs. This isn't the forum to debate this, but if you're seriously interested in it I suggest the airpower thread which has plenty of people in it who do this kind of thing for a living.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Ironically, the U.S. Army finally mastered insurgency tactics at the expense of conventional fighting skills. At the tail end of the Iraqi surge they realized something like 90% of their units were unable to fire artillery accurately.   Good thing they know how to form a square for if they get attacked by cavalry!
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Mar 26, 2016 00:04
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Robert Downey Jr. is starring in a reboot of Nightmare on Elm Street? Fuckin sweet!
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Mar 26, 2016 00:14
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Finish the ad: "Eight hundred five eight eight, two three hundred..." It's one of maybe 4 phone numbers I have memorized, shamefully.
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Mar 26, 2016 00:27
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porkswordonboard posted:Finish the ad: Empiiiiire Content: Dodge's new "Villains need vehicles, too" BvS tie-in is loving retarded. Who wants to associate themselves with comic book mooks? Supervillains, maybe, but nobody wants to be the foot-soldier. video here
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Mar 26, 2016 00:36
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That hat + beard combination makes him look Amish as gently caress.
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Mar 26, 2016 01:09
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:That hat + beard combination makes him look Amish as gently caress. Pilgrim hats are now "badass" to nerds for whatever reason. 
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Mar 26, 2016 01:17
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porkswordonboard posted:Finish the ad: Nice! How about this one: "If you're having trouble sleeping, call the handy toll-free number, it's the offer of a lifetime, 1-877 ____ _____" Hint: It played at every commercial break during The Price is Right
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Mar 26, 2016 02:03
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Sleeveless posted:Pilgrim hats are now "badass" to nerds for whatever reason. Blood borne and probably still some tiny amount of warhammer fantasy people
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Mar 26, 2016 02:58
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1redflag posted:Empiiiiire "Today."
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Mar 26, 2016 03:13
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  I would guess someone's a fan.
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Took these today   Now I don't know much about the backstory of this insanity of marketing, but I don't feel like "minion made! (made in china)" is a very good thing to put on something From what I can gather from 30 seconds on rotten tomatoes these things are mindless who desperate look for a evil mastermind to serve, or in this case work for a typical chinese slave labor sweatshop stringball has a new favorite as of 01:49 on Mar 27, 2016 |
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Mar 27, 2016 01:47
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stringball posted:Took these today
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Nitrox posted:Philadelphia is not China, dude That's where it was distributed from it clearly says product of China are you willfully dense?
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Mar 27, 2016 04:36
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Nitrox posted:Philadelphia is not China, dude Uhh I can't tell if this is some sort of joke on the Pedant Wasteland forum name, but it's pretty clearly made in China.
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Mar 27, 2016 04:38
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Everyone knows that China has a city named Philadelphia just so they can trick gullible people into thinking that they're buying American, duh 
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Mar 27, 2016 04:39
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The few times I've been to Philadelphia I have observed people spitting on the street, maybe it is China after all?
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Mar 27, 2016 04:41
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Sleeveless posted:Everyone knows that China has a city named Philadelphia just so they can trick gullible people into thinking that they're buying American, duh I knew it! America needs a city called China to even things out.
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Mar 27, 2016 04:44
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Krispy Kareem posted:It doesn't make sense that we use these to bomb brown people without radar. They have great range and payload, but all their stealth technology is pretty much wasted. I'd like to see some massive Spruce Goose looking monster that holds 4k pounds of bombs and maybe costs 40 million per plane rather than the half-billion these new ones are going to cost.
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Mar 27, 2016 04:50
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Philly has a pretty huge Chinese demographic.
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Nitrox posted:I knew it! America needs a city called China to even things out. There's one in Illinois.
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Mar 27, 2016 10:48
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The North Tower posted:There's one in Illinois.
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Mar 27, 2016 12:20
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I don't even know who is joking and who is actually that dumb anymore in this forum. The company that distributes it is in Philly. It's manufactured in China. There's no contradiction.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:I don't even know who is joking and who is actually that dumb anymore in this forum. The company that distributes it is in Philly. It's manufactured in China. There's no contradiction. It's across the street from my girlfriend's house, I'm definitely joking. The Frankford Candy place, not China, just to be clear.
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Mar 27, 2016 15:20
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Love the new subtitle
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Mar 27, 2016 15:43
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Celluloid Sam posted:Love the new subtitle Enrique does not.
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Mar 27, 2016 16:58
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I could swear the whole Enrique joke was half in the Life Hack thread anyway. 
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AlphaKretin posted:I could swear the whole Enrique joke was half in the Life Hack thread anyway. PYF is basically just a large homogeneous mass
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Mar 27, 2016 17:08
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It started here, and like most good PYF memes it proliferated across the sub. walla!
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Wanamingo posted:PYF is basically just a large homogeneous Edited to be more accurate.
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AlphaKretin posted:I could swear the whole Enrique joke was half in the Life Hack thread anyway. Enrique has more than two halves. LITERALLY A BIRD posted:It started here, and like most good PYF memes it was beaten to death. I know i know i did it too
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Maybe advertisers have always done this and I'm just now noticing, but anyway, it seems like a lot of companies are doing this thing we're they make a mini documentary or social experiment to see what people will say and we're supposed to be surprised and/or inspired and/or moved to tears by the outcome. That's cool I guess, but I always wonder if they're entirely scripted or they just go through X number of participants to get the reactions they want. Take this one, for example. I really have trouble believing it. I just feel like it would be the kids naming pop stars and celebs and the parents saying "I just want my kids to put down the video games for 5 minutes and eat at the dinner table." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wfbY3i4FY0
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