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No Mans Land posted:She has no personality or public persona of her own, she reads off a teleprompter for a cable news station and occasionally asks loaded questions, its very difficult to insult an empty suit but i guess he thought it was necessary. Now he just says their ratings are low if they come after him. He's learned. What the whole thing reveals is that Trump deep down inside really does view women as trophies and objects of physical attractiveness for men to obtain. I actually think maybe he is just pandering with the whole muslims thing, but there's basically no question that Donald Trump really is very sexist. quote:And what, is he going to call all the men "bastards"? Men are more likely to project a certain persona that can be attacked if they come after him. Difficult to attack women but they are used, and use themselves, as political pawns too. To ignore them all out of chivalry is a way to get taken advantage of. Like Bernie did by refusing to attack Hillary. This is an argument which flies well on reddit and maybe with a certain demography of 17-25 year old dudes, but not for the general American electorate
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Mar 26, 2016 20:00
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Despera posted:Why don't we talk about Hillary's alleged mysogyny? loving left wing main stream latte clinging media. Because this is the Republican thread. Retarded thread for morons is that way.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:02
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Mar 26, 2016 20:04
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:There are things women as a whole are not as good at doing as men are and it is objectively okay to acknowledge this. like, apparently, running for president
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Mar 26, 2016 20:04
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Epic High Five posted:just so everybody knows, this comment in defense of a position of "show me somebody suing him for gender discrimination" is pulled from an article about somebody suing him for gender discrimination Just another typically goony assumption. It is a quote that has been used in plenty of writeups about Trump over the past few decades.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:04
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mike12345 posted:Because this is the Republican thread. Retarded thread for morons is that way. Hey I'm just saying there's a double standard against Trump here
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Mar 26, 2016 20:04
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Slate Action posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/713803130417324032 It's just as okay to insult specific women as it is to insult specific men.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:05
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:like, apparently, running for president They just have to have their husband do it first so they know how its done.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:05
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:like, apparently, running for president I'm not fond of this fact, but Hillary is going to be the next President.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:06
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:There are things women as a whole are not as good at doing as men are and it is objectively okay to acknowledge this. Please enlighten us on what things these would be in the office. I'm curious. No Mans Land posted:Women on average work fewer hours in the office than men, this is a fact. This plays into lower effectiveness. Still havent entered the realm of sexism. If you still think thats sexism then I guess life is very hard for you. Plenty of countries work less than us and are more productive. Studies have shown that increased hours worked does not produce a 1:1 increase in productivity, and at a certain point it is the opposite.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:06
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Third World Reggin posted:They just have to have their husband do it first so they know how its done. maybe she confused the oval office with a kitchen or something
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Mar 26, 2016 20:06
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Typo posted:That's cool, but calling her a bimbo was completely unnecessary, saying she has blood coming out of "whatever" was not necessary. What if i told you that from time to time women like feeling like trophies to obtain. Do good with this knowledge and go forth. I think at the end of the day Trump is just more honest than a lot of you.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:07
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Typo posted:What the whole thing reveals is that Trump deep down inside really does view women as trophies and objects of physical attractiveness for men to obtain. I actually think maybe he is just pandering with the whole muslims thing, but there's basically no question that Donald Trump really is very sexist. I think Donald Trump actually just has no time or respect for those he considers useless, weak, low-energy, etc. It's just that, if you're one of those things and also an attractive woman, he'll at least give you the time of day because he wants to treat you like a sex object, whereas he'd just ignore you entirely if you were a man. So, yeah, Trump is a pretty bad sexist, but not quite as bad as it might appear if you were to ignore his disdain toward most men as well. It's also worth noting that holding certain specific women in high esteem is not incompatible with being a male chauvinist in general. I know women who think that women are, on average, worse than man at most things, and I can tell you they sure as gently caress don't count themselves in the category of "most women." That doesn't mean they don't hold sexist opinions.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:08
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Women are garbage. Except for me. I am special.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:10
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No Mans Land posted:What if i told you that from time to time women like feeling like trophies to obtain. Do good with this knowledge and go forth. I think at the end of the day Trump is just more honest than a lot of you. Look, get off the internet and talk to some girls irl, date somebody, get some female friends, consider the viewpoints of your mother or sisters. This is a lot more complicated than you think it is.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:10
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I'd totally be up for some oval brownies
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Mar 26, 2016 20:10
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No Mans Land posted:What if i told you that from time to time women like feeling like trophies to obtain. Do good with this knowledge and go forth. I think at the end of the day Trump is just more honest than a lot of you. 
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Mar 26, 2016 20:11
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EXTREME INSERTION posted:Women are garbage. Except for me. I am special. I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but I have literally met several women who think this. It's kind of sad, really.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:12
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Mar 26, 2016 20:12
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Typo posted:Look, get off the internet and talk to some girls irl, date somebody, get some female friends, consider the viewpoints of your mother or sisters. This is a lot more complicated than you think it is. Lets assume ive done all that and still think the same things. Then what? Would you then explain what these complexities are? My mother and sister are voting for Bernie, but I feel like theyre only doing it because they feel like theyre supposed to, neither are too enthused about him and have never bothered defending him to me. Not that i have ever attacked him to them. Im just saying, its not like a lot of people especially women want to articulate at length why they are voting for someone. Its more like "whats my social circle..whats my family doing..ok i'll do that" Edit 2 - i know my mother supports bernie because of his stance on global warming and she works in green technology. Thats about it i think No Mans Land fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Mar 26, 2016 |
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Mar 26, 2016 20:13
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PT6A posted:I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but I have literally met several women who think this. It's kind of sad, really. I am somehow going to be exempt from all of this.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:13
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Bill wanted a sandwich, not to be first lady
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Mar 26, 2016 20:14
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No Mans Land posted:What if i told you that from time to time women like feeling like trophies to obtain. Do good with this knowledge and go forth. I think at the end of the day Trump is just more honest than a lot of you. woah. Ted Cruz is posting on SA now?
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Mar 26, 2016 20:15
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You've gotta admit, this is a first-degree burn. Really twists the knife in. Especially the "He made a good decision" part.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:16
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Jewel Repetition posted:That account's so on point sometimes, but other times you can tell it's at least sympathetic to white nationalism. oh man you have ruined that guy for me
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Mar 26, 2016 20:16
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Joementum posted:It's Lyin' Ted. L-Y-E-N Ted.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:18
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Patter Song posted:You've gotta admit, this is a first-degree burn. Really twists the knife in. Especially the "He made a good decision" part. It's pro gay if you think about it
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Mar 26, 2016 20:19
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No Mans Land posted:Lets assume ive done all that and still think the same things. Then what? Would you then explain what these complexities are? I can try for another 50 posts or so and probably not get anywhere and also I'm gonna go to the gym now Politics is roughly 99% emotional and maybe 1% rational on a good day. The problem with internet autists is that they insist on thinking everyone is 99% rational and different PoVs don't matter because people with the same rationalities ends up with the same conclusions. And they try to account for emotions by using amateur psychology and/or PUA material which gives them a warped and oversimplified model on how other people actually think irl. The whole "Trump is Alpha so women will vote for him" is case in point. This is why they seem awfully out of touch with reality. Like in the end, no amount of making posts on D&D is gonna equate to a couple of convos you have with real life women on the issue of sexism and politics in changing your opinion.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:20
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as a man I want to feel like a trophy . I want to be on the bullet farmers mantle , shiny and chrome for all future goo candidates to gaze at
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Mar 26, 2016 20:20
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Jeb is a mess
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Mar 26, 2016 20:22
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Ted Cruz giving a new meaning to Flowers for Algernon.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:22
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instead of regular protesting i just want to hire a mariachi band to play at all of trumps rallies
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Mar 26, 2016 20:23
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Jewel Repetition posted:L-Y-E-N Ted. Lion Ted. Rarr.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:25
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Typo posted:I can try for another 50 posts or so and probably not get anywhere and also I'm gonna go to the gym now But i think these women only think Trump is sexist (or more to the point, discriminatory) because of the non stop media narrative painting him as such, absent any actually damning evidence in favor of it. So my question has been, is he actually sexist and what has he done? Not, what is the perception among the easily misled? Because I think that's all that is happening here. It is easier for me to come to this point because of the amount of misunderstandings about Trump i have personally cleared up on these forums, just as one idiot with a forums account. Imagine whats happening everywhere else where no one is countering the endless "perception is reality" smear campaign. Edit i mean he does say off color things from time to time, but thats just lack of filters operating, ive never detected any actual malice, which seems like it would be the key thing with sex discrimination. No Mans Land fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Mar 26, 2016 |
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Mar 26, 2016 20:25
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No Mans Land posted:But i think these women only think Trump is sexist (or more to the point, discriminatory) because of the non stop media narrative painting him as such You can paint reality. For example, an ad where women are simply reading Trump's literal words about women. You aren't Roddy Piper with the magical sunglasses that let you see the false narratives that everybody else is under the spell of. e: No Mans Land posted:i mean he does say off color things from time to time, but thats just lack of filters operating So his unfiltered truth is sexism but he's not sexist. Your reasoning is mind-numbing.
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Mar 26, 2016 20:29
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It’s certainly not groundbreaking news that the early victories by the women on ‘The Apprentice’ were, to a very large extent, dependent on their sex appeal
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Mar 26, 2016 20:30
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No Mans Land posted:But i think these women only think Trump is sexist (or more to the point, discriminatory) because of the non stop media narrative painting him as such, absent any actually damning evidence in favor of it. So my question has been, is he actually sexist and what has he done? Not, what is the perception among the easily misled? Because I think that's all that is happening here. It is easier for me to come to this point because of the amount of misunderstandings about Trump i have personally cleared up on these forums, just as one idiot with a forums account. Imagine whats happening everywhere else where no one is countering the endless "perception is reality" smear campaign. Wait, what? I'm confused. Are you claiming there isn't evidence of Trump's sexism?
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Mar 26, 2016 20:30
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All of the women on ‘The Apprentice’ flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.
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It's pretty sexist to insult women based on their appearance and not endlessly ridicule Ted Cruz for same imo.
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