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The rebound clothesline would be a lot easier for me to accept if Kyle O'Reilly didn't already do the same move like a billion times better And also actually fall out of the ring that way sometimes so it doesn't immediately telegraph the spot like Dean does
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I think if Dean didn't have Shane McMahon level striking then I might like him better.
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That DICK! posted:Honestly I can't see Hogan coming back for years still, if ever. He's still years away from a good portion of the audience, particularly in the minority demographics WWE really wants, not booing the poo poo out of him as loudly as they fuckin can to ruin any segment he's in. People have drowned Roman in boos for 2 years for less WWE has an award named after The Ultimate Warrior. Hogan will be back someday.
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Davros1 posted:WWE has an award named after The Ultimate Warrior. Hogan will be back someday. And Moolah is in the hall of fame for her charitable work in the field of women's extracurricular activities. Although the histories of Moolah and Ultimate Warrior probably aren't common knowledge to shareholders and kids, unlike HH.
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ThePariah posted:As far as singles matches go, the Triple H match mentioned above is probably his best one. His Lumberjack match against Seth at Summerslam 2014 was also really good for a match type that usually isn't all that good. Most of his best matches were as part of The Shield, Dean has suffered from bad booking for most of his singles run. He's the weakest of the three Shield members in the ring, but he can put on good matches with the right opponents. Excuse me?
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Grozz Nuy posted:The rebound clothesline Actually, it's The Wacky Line. Alain Post posted:the rebound clothesline Actually, it's The Wacky Line. MrBling posted:"rebound off the middle rope into a jumping lariat" Actually, it's The Wacky Line.
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projecthalaxy posted:Actually, it's The Wacky Line. Actually, it's Nigel McGuinness's Jawbreaker Lariat. 
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Gonzo McFee posted:Excuse me? I guess you could make the argument he's better than Rollins since he's on the shelf and can't wrestle.
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yeah, ambrose is way the gently caress better in the character/personality department than reigns, but in sheer ring work I'd give roman the edge. I'd rather watch a dean match though any day
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The Shield consisted of The New Shawn Michaels, The New Mick Foley, and a trash can full of vomit with the word NEPOTISM written on it. That's what the Shield were.
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Seth Rollins is super good & also cute and he's the person I want to return the most right now.
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Lady Naga posted:Seth Rollins is super good & also cute and he's the person I want to return the most right now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C0xkSpGINY
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Seth is one of the best workers in the world, Roman is very good, Dean is somewhere in between. Hope you all enjoyed my take on this burning issue.
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Grozz Nuy posted:The rebound clothesline would be a lot easier for me to accept if Kyle O'Reilly didn't already do the same move like a billion times better Judging other wrestlers based on Kyle O'Reilly is very unfair
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If we used KOR as the standard, every other wrestler on earth would be impossibly good-looking. Even Bull Dempsey (especially Bull Dempsey)
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Basic Chunnel posted:If we used KOR as the standard, every other wrestler on earth would be impossibly good-looking. Even Bull Dempsey (especially Bull Dempsey) Awww, he's not that bad. Now if you wanted to make fun of his promos, that would be a different story.
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Gonzo McFee posted:smh at you drat Romaniacs. Not Romantics? Or is that reserved for fans of the Romantic Touch?
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Writer Cath posted:Not Romantics? Or is that reserved for fans of the Romantic Touch? Roman doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath of Adam Ant.
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astrollinthepork posted:I love Dean Ambrose super bad, but my only exposure to him has been through promos since I never watch wrestling anymore. What are the best Ambrose matches? I assume his psychology is top notch, but how about technical ability? The Lumberjack and Hell in a Cell matches with Rollins were both great, although the finishes aren't good. Everything up until then is great though!
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The most interesting part of the Cell match, to me, was seeing what a modern, Concussion Era Cell bump looked like, where you fall through a cleared table from a platform/foothold like seven feet up. I'm not complaining, I'm no CZW "bleed for my amusement" guy, but it was just interesting.
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astrollinthepork posted:I love Dean Ambrose super bad, but my only exposure to him has been through promos since I never watch wrestling anymore. What are the best Ambrose matches? I assume his psychology is top notch, but how about technical ability? Dean's done some very good work on the main roster but he has yet to top his match with Regal in FCW for me. But I'm obviously a huge Regal mark.
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MrBling posted:Dean Ambrose made me not want to watch his matches any more, because he has to do that loving "rebound off the middle rope into a jumping lariat" move ten times. I'm with you on this... it just looks poo poo now.... It should only come out every now and then...not every drat time.... I know it's a signature spot but urgh.... Having said that though.... Kofi needs to bring back that crazy rebound off the ropes with his shoulders move he did when he first debuted!
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Before signing with WWE Dean's big claim to fame was working hardcore garbage brawls, so yeah, he's never had the most technical style. But he makes up for it with charisma and an ability to connect with crowds, two things Roman is still looking for.
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projecthalaxy posted:The Shield consisted of The New Shawn Michaels, The New Mick Foley, and a trash can full of vomit with the word NEPOTISM written on it. That's what the Shield were. I love how people actually think Roman is a case of nepotism and ignore that he's a big, athletic, good looking guy with a football background, the exact guy wrestling promoters LOVE, Vince in particular. But no, it's clearly nepotism... a thing that has helped dozens of FCW alums become jobbers and midcard fodder.
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MassRafTer posted:I love how people actually think Roman is a case of nepotism and ignore that he's a big, athletic, good looking guy with a football background, the exact guy wrestling promoters LOVE, Vince in particular. But no, it's clearly nepotism... a thing that has helped dozens of FCW alums become jobbers and midcard fodder. Agreed. Roman's problem is that Vince is stuck in the mindset that looks are what gets over when that not been true since... has it EVER been true? All the biggest stars in the US I can think of got over on a combo of good in-ring work, mic work and sheer charisma. Even in WWF. Hogan was as much Terry Bollea being the larger than life cartoon superman as it was the 24-inch pythons brother. Austin, Rock, Foley, Flair, Dusty, all personality more than looks.
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Roman doesn't even look that good. He's no Lex Luger that's for sure
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Gaz-L posted:Agreed. Roman's problem is that Vince is stuck in the mindset that looks are what gets over when that not been true since... has it EVER been true? All the biggest stars in the US I can think of got over on a combo of good in-ring work, mic work and sheer charisma. Even in WWF. Hogan was as much Terry Bollea being the larger than life cartoon superman as it was the 24-inch pythons brother. Austin, Rock, Foley, Flair, Dusty, all personality more than looks. Look used to be a big, big thing. Hogan's look was a major factor in his rise. Hogan was mainly look and charisma, Rock's look wasn't as big of a deal but it sure helped him. The Road Warriors mainly got over on physique and never selling and were some of the biggest draws of the 80s. There's all sorts of big men it applies to... especially in the 80s. It sure helped the Von Erichs. You can go back to the 50s and the All American, clean cut, good looking babyface was what helped Gagne become the biggest babyface draw in the US. It means very little now, obviously although it helps guys like Roman and Cena draw in females.
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Alain Post posted:Lex Luger owned though You drat right he did.
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MassRafTer posted:I love how people actually think Roman is a case of nepotism and ignore that he's a big, athletic, good looking guy with a football background, the exact guy wrestling promoters LOVE, Vince in particular. But no, it's clearly nepotism... a thing that has helped dozens of FCW alums become jobbers and midcard fodder. The fact he gets booed constantly while being hand picked and superpushed is a lot closer to nepotism than being a pro graps success, though it's more stubbornness Shane is actual nepotism
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ZoDiAC_ posted:The fact he gets booed constantly while being hand picked and superpushed is a lot closer to nepotism than being a pro graps success, though it's more stubbornness I wouldn't even call Shane entirely nepotism, though it did help, obviously. Shane earned his place through being a reckless son of a bitch and taking giant bumps. That said, obviously there's a reason why he's being called in instead of, say,
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Go RV! posted:I wouldn't even call Shane entirely nepotism, though it did help, obviously.  ok there buddy
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the rock was nepotism, his dad is Rocky Johnson for god's sake!
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Do bars show Mania? I've got the network so I could watch at home but I'd like to watch somewhere loud and drunky if possible. But all I know of that's definitely showing it is this huge sports bar/OTB that's the most miserable place on earth. Any suggestions on how I'd even find somewhere? Also is there a thread for WWE2k16 here or in Games or something? Any chance of one surviving if not?
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If you asked me in a vacuum to describe what a professional wrestler looks like, I would describe Lex Luger exactly
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