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Oh they declared. They just lost. First the Russians came and then the Italians, then the British. The United Kingdom was horrified at the monster they (somewhat) helped create and broke their alliance immediately. Russia and Italy were desperate to contain the beast which was forming on their border. After all, I just took east switzerland and Franche-Comte. The coalition struck in late 1950. Within a year the Italians and the Russians surrendered, the British unable to gain a foothold in German land. I mobilized the people of the Empire but there was no need, my armed forces were sufficient. They will be back with a vengeance, and I will fight them off again. Germany is an armed camp, and soon enough I force the communists to come to power and a people's revolution will take hold. In the 19th and 20th centuries, there is only war. 
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Paradox Grand Strategy: In The Grim Darkness of the 2nd Millenium There Is Only War Honestly that's a pretty good introduction to a history book, too.
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SirJohnnyMcDonald posted:Unfortunately it lacks Schleswig because I forgot about it and just ended up sphering Denmark. Restart.
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SirJohnnyMcDonald posted:After lots of trial and error I've managed to form Super Germany in Vicky 2 by June 10th 1845. Almost as impressed by a fully formed Italy by 1845. How did that happen? For my part I just completed a campaign as the Ottomans where I strove to become a fully modernized, democratic welfare state while keeping all my European and African possessions at the historical peak. Me, Germany and Japan dismantled Russia, France and the UK over the course of the game. I had, among others, Croatia, Hungary, Serbia, Poland, Romania, Slovenia, Algeria, Morocco, Persia, Greece and Hail as my sphered friends.  Quite satisfied with my score, but I kinda slacked off on industrialization and just let my capitalist build what they want and the pops promote on their own. But this was partly because I needed to keep my national focuses on soldier promotion the entire game through simply to keep up with my swelling army and keep my hungry neighbors (Russia!) at bay. 
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Super Germany forms the EU over 100 years early, peace reigns in Europe for a thousand years. Super Kolonialism follows, bad times are had outside the continent. Everyone speaks German, tea is outlawed.
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SirJohnnyMcDonald posted:Oh they declared. They just lost. I assume you mean 1850?
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Pimpmust posted:Super Germany forms the EU over 100 years early, peace reigns in Europe for a thousand years. Are you Philip K. Dick?
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If you were Philip K. Dick, would you know you were Philip K. Dick? Wait, isn't that a Philip K. Dick story?
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SirJohnnyMcDonald posted:Oh they declared. They just lost. That's what always turns me off uniting Germany with Austria sphered. It's just so annoying when it makes you go over the BB limit and then everyone DoWs and you have to throw your millions of mobilized brigades at them.
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All this SuperGermany chat makes me want to start a new Victoria 2 game as France, but even if I had time for it I'm pretty sure it'd turn out about as well as all of my prior attempts to stop Germany from forming. 
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I've had good luck stopping it as Sweden. I basically sphered Holstein as quick as possible, then laughed as the NGF never forms
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Last time I did a France game, I took an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" approach to Germany. I spent the vast majority of my game working on biting off pieces of Spain and colonizing, all the while keeping good relations with Germany. Eventually I just let them have Alsace-Lorraine since I had already eaten pretty much the entire Iberian peninsula, so the territory trade was worth it, since Germany and I became inseparable bros who conquered Europe and dismantled the British Empire together.
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So is hpm the go to mod nowadays for V2? Is it any good?
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One of my first Vic2 games had me sphere Hannover as France and then give the game up after getting bored. Besides you need Germany to form so conquering all of the Rheinland isn't such a huge pain.
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SirJohnnyMcDonald posted:So is hpm the go to mod nowadays for V2? Is it any good? HoD and NNM is all you need. And the new beta patch.
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looking at zoomed in details of HoI4 makes me really not want to buy it. I mean, yeah lol grognards and NATO symbols are funny to joke with but it's ugly as hell to see forty skinny scrawny dudes shooting rifles at each other all over the German-French border. I seriously hope there's some better alternative introduced in the near future because seeing the same scrawny looking dude cloned a thousand times shooting his rifle at his mirror image while a bunch of identical boats roam around the sea is just ugly as hell.
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Personally, I think gameplay is more important than graphics
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There's still counters, they just aren't NATO counters. You don't have to use the unit models if you don't want.
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Mans posted:looking at zoomed in details of HoI4 makes me really not want to buy it. Who the hell plays zoomed in enough to see 3d unit models? The only time I see them in EUIV is in the combat resolution screen.
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Also there is NATO counters but by all means 
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:There's still counters, they just aren't NATO counters. You don't have to use the unit models if you don't want. There are NATO symbols. There is a toggle box in the options menu, shown off in the last Stream. Tuskin38 fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Mar 27, 2016 |
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Are the soldiers especially skinny???
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Yeah they're all wearing massive coats and stuff, how can you even tell that they're skinny? Paradox's artists have gotten way better at unit modeling, look at the base EU4 units compared to the unit packs they're doing today, it's like night and day. Some of the animations are a bit janky in HOI4 though, the routing one especially was a bit  Fintilgin posted:Who the hell plays zoomed in enough to see 3d unit models? lots of people There's no way they're not gonna do lots of unit packs for this game, I'm sure variety will get patched up and then some before too long. And in general I think HOI4 is the best looking by far of Paradox's games, the map is super crisp and the lighting effects are great. the ships sailing through land bothered me a bit in that last WWW though. I guess there's no reasonable way to fix it but there was one that kept cruising straight through Shandong in China and it was insanely distracting. Koramei fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Mar 27, 2016 |
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Mans posted:looking at zoomed in details of HoI4 makes me really not want to buy it. Why do you think people prefer NATO counters? Because they're more visually appalling and easier to digest than what paradox produces. It's almost as if NATO designed these counters to relay information quickly in a simple manner.
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It could just be that conflict and famine have left those particular soldiers severely emaciated. I was usually zoomed in close enough for the counters to switch to models when I was controlling a particular battle line but I didn't spend most of the game like that, usually zoomed out far enough to see an entire front and keep an eye on progress. That said, I didn't really notice anything off about the models and find their animations break the monotony of what ultimately just boils down to staring at a map, it will also provide you with some basic feedback instantaneously based on what they're doing. I hope you can also watch your enemies cities gradually become more on fire as you relentlessly bomb them over the course of the war... they were going to more details at a glance this time around.
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WeaponGradeSadness posted:There's still counters, they just aren't NATO counters. You don't have to use the unit models if you don't want. oh word? i swear i heard it was only models now and no counters. I don't care if they're nato counters or not i just find those units jarring in HoI. It's just odd to see world war 2 armies being represented by broomstick stacks. my ability to feel human is restored and i eagerly away the ability to pre-order when possible, as soon as i get my Franco and Salazar portraits.
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Tuskin38 posted:There are NATO symbols. There is a toggle box in the options menu, shown off in the last Stream. Yeah they showed off the NATO symbols while making fun of them last stream.
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They show it off here, specifically. And throughout that video you can see that armies appear as counters (NATA or Paradox) until you zoom waaaay in to specifically admire you splendid troops.
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Possibly dumb idea- I think it'd be interesting if at some point the EU4 developers curated a the game into an 'EU4' and 'EU4-lite' pair of games/game-modes, with one keeping in all the continuously expanding rules while the other tried to filter out some of the less accessible bits and micro-management. Personally I think EU is the most accessible of the Paradox map-games, but with Cossacks and seemingly with Mare Nostrum they're adding elements that are pushing that accessibility level downwards, and I worry they'll start to lose that step-up game that lets people get comfortable with the Paradox style.
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Empress Theonora posted:They show it off here, specifically. jesus loving christ Mao looks like one of those alien things from stellaris. did all the budget go to fascist portraits?
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Mans posted:jesus loving christ Mao looks like one of those alien things from stellaris. Have you looked at paintings of Mao in real life? Dude just had a weird head.
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Mans posted:jesus loving christ Mao looks like one of those alien things from stellaris. IIRC somebody pointed out in the replies to the China DD thread that the portrait of Mao they used is him way older than he would have been during WWII, but they weren't sure if they'd be able to fix it in time for release.
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Man, why do people still respond to mans
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Wait, there's no Guangxi Clique. Preorder etc
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cool and good posted:Man, why do people still respond to mans Because it makes it harder to pretend that you're your favorite
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Phi230 posted:Why do you think people prefer NATO counters? Because they're more visually appalling 
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Beauty's in the eye of the beholder.
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 vs.  I'm not sure what the first picture is supposed to depict (It's supposed to be a horse I know, but it could also be a cow, zebra or a number of other animals) while the second picture is clearly depicting a unit of cavalry and you just have to marvel at the timeless beauty and functionality of a NATO symbol, which for me increases the immersion factor by a lot.
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Baronjutter posted:Are the soldiers especially skinny??? GaussianCopula posted:
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