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Frobbe
Jan 19, 2007

Calm Down
So much stuff on my painting table:



Finishing up the squad of cadians first, then it's off to the races with the mordians. Guess i'll slog through the skitarii sometime after.

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Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

richyp posted:

All the black lines are just dark blue ink run into the edges as I find it flows better than paint.

Mostly, I'm debating whether I want to just learn how to make paint flow well or not. My understanding is that ink doesn't seal quite as well, and there's an attractive simplicity to using the same paints for everything (and just adjusting the consistency as needed for the current situation). I should probably just paint some guys and see how I feel about it; that's why I have a half-dozen Reaper test minis!

Slimnoid
Sep 6, 2012

Does that mean I don't get the job?

Avenging Dentist posted:

Mostly, I'm debating whether I want to just learn how to make paint flow well or not. My understanding is that ink doesn't seal quite as well, and there's an attractive simplicity to using the same paints for everything (and just adjusting the consistency as needed for the current situation). I should probably just paint some guys and see how I feel about it; that's why I have a half-dozen Reaper test minis!

If you're worried about inks, just hit the model with matte varnish before going over it with gloss. This works fine with ghost tint paints and Didi's Magic Ink, so it should work just fine with other inks.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
Sooooo

I did my test minotaur up using the Duncan Rhodes method, and that looked good on flesh. Basecoat, shade, highlight, highlight. So that's neat, I can paint draped cloth, flesh, that kind of poo poo. I have no loving clue how to paint sci-fi armor. How do I sci-fi?

This kind of thing:



There are so many little edges and I can't hit them without getting paint on panels.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
I am going to paint Salamanders while I watch the BBC Television production of Macbeth for school. What can I do to make this situation more British?

PantsOptional
Dec 27, 2012

All I wanna do is make you bounce
Tea and Hobnobs?

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Casual Racism.

And complain about the weather.

PantsOptional
Dec 27, 2012

All I wanna do is make you bounce

SteelMentor posted:

Casual Racism.

And complain about the weather.

I thought that was New England.

Vermintide
Oct 26, 2013

So since my Skaven weapon teams are on 50mm x 50mm bases in Kings of War, I tried to come up with a clever way to switch between KoW and 8th/9th/etc without having to do a bunch of re-basing. Came up with this idea, made and cast some 50mm size bases that I can slide and lock the standard warhammer cavalry sized bases into, then pull 'em apart if I want them back to the normal size. They're a little rough but work pretty well, I think, and they stay nice and secure.


Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

PantsOptional posted:

I thought that was New England.

They get it honest.

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through

Vermintide posted:

So since my Skaven weapon teams are on 50mm x 50mm bases in Kings of War, I tried to come up with a clever way to switch between KoW and 8th/9th/etc without having to do a bunch of re-basing. Came up with this idea, made and cast some 50mm size bases that I can slide and lock the standard warhammer cavalry sized bases into, then pull 'em apart if I want them back to the normal size. They're a little rough but work pretty well, I think, and they stay nice and secure.




WhiteOutMouse did the same thing for his Flesh Hounds in 40k. They went from cav bases to 50mm rounds. Works great.

SERPUS
Mar 20, 2004
I'm having a lot of trouble with Citadel's Troll Slayer Orange. I can't seem to get an even coat, no matter the water dilution I use. Does matte medium or Flo aid make this better.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

SERPUS posted:

I'm having a lot of trouble with Citadel's Troll Slayer Orange. I can't seem to get an even coat, no matter the water dilution I use. Does matte medium or Flo aid make this better.

I found adding a bit of ratskin flesh to any orange makes the color more even. Maybe Jokaero Orange as well? Granted it does change the color a bit... it really depends on your undercoat.

Bistromatic
Oct 3, 2004

And turn the inner eye
To see its path...
This kinda counts as painting i guess and i don't think there's a more appropriate thread.

I made a custom set of token for Dropzone Commander. I had previously been using old AT-43 token and while i like their style they're not an exact fit for the effects you need.
These are all made from acrylic glass, spraypainted from the back. First the colour designs, then a layer of white to make the colours pop and then a thick layer of black. Cutting and milling were done with a Zünd CNC mill

My army generally has yellow markings and a white registration number so i matched those colours for the tokens. The only exception is fleet assets like the fighter in the top right of the last picture which have teal markings so tokens relating to them match that.
Activation markers are triangular, status effects are square and mission objectives are hexagons. The big army logo is purely for vanity reasons and doesn't have an in-game use.

Peeling design elements from the masking film


All the colours are spreayed except white


Masking film removed


Black backing layer


The whole sheet after milling


Tokens in a box


Army comparison and effects

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Bistromatic posted:

This kinda counts as painting i guess and i don't think there's a more appropriate thread.

I made a custom set of token for Dropzone Commander. I had previously been using old AT-43 token and while i like their style they're not an exact fit for the effects you need.
These are all made from acrylic glass, spraypainted from the back. First the colour designs, then a layer of white to make the colours pop and then a thick layer of black. Cutting and milling were done with a Zünd CNC mill

My army generally has yellow markings and a white registration number so i matched those colours for the tokens. The only exception is fleet assets like the fighter in the top right of the last picture which have teal markings so tokens relating to them match that.
Activation markers are triangular, status effects are square and mission objectives are hexagons. The big army logo is purely for vanity reasons and doesn't have an in-game use.

Peeling design elements from the masking film


All the colours are spreayed except white


Masking film removed


Black backing layer


The whole sheet after milling


Tokens in a box


Army comparison and effects


I love them, quoting the whole thing so I don't lose it for when I'm doing mine :v:

And stencil-spraying them in the reverse order onto the back is genius.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

signalnoise posted:

For whatever reason my citadel paints seem to shrink like a urethane paint against the surface of whatever model I'm painting, thinned only slightly.

It might be your primer. I have issues with primer that is too smooth, and the paint had nothing to grab onto. Try laying down a quick Dullcote layer before starting your base layer.

Bistromatic posted:

Army comparison and effects

I don't play DZC, but these are awesome and very professional looking. You could seriously make money with these.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

berzerkmonkey posted:

It might be your primer. I have issues with primer that is too smooth, and the paint had nothing to grab onto. Try laying down a quick Dullcote layer before starting your base layer.

No no, you misunderstand. This is a GOOD thing!

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)
Look what was waiting for me on my desk at work when I got in today:



A 1979 book on painting fantasy miniatures! It actually seems to have some good advice in it, better than I would have expected and I know child and teenage me in the 1980s would have done a much better job if I had a book like this pre-internet days. It even teaches you that dry brushing terrifies trees!

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~
That's really neat! I feel like it might lose something by being in black and white though.

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)
I wonder if it adds something, actually. Instead of just taking pictures of steps, notice on that tree how its differentiating steps by placement and direction of the lines. In some ways that makes things more clear. Whole book is like that.

jadebullet
Mar 25, 2011


MY LIFE FOR YOU!
Does anyone have any tips on making small ghostly wisps of spirit/smoke out of greenstuff?

Also, if I am painting something like a wisp of spirit/smoke and I want to make it look ghostly, what colors should I use to give it that effect? I was thinking starting with a blue-gray and working up to white, but I am not sure.

The effect I am going for is damaged power armor with wisps of spirit around the edges of the holes. Kind of like smoke, but I want it to be ghostlike.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


nesbit37 posted:

I wonder if it adds something, actually. Instead of just taking pictures of steps, notice on that tree how its differentiating steps by placement and direction of the lines. In some ways that makes things more clear. Whole book is like that.

Yeah, I loved reading the CMON articles that used similar diagrams. The problem with taking pictures is that depending on lighting at that instant, it usually doesn't show the effect very well. Especially since everyone seems to work with a close, direct light and aren't going to go out of their way to put it in a light box that has the same ambient lighting every time. There's also the old problem of good blends not showing up at all under direct light.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

signalnoise posted:

Sooooo

I did my test minotaur up using the Duncan Rhodes method, and that looked good on flesh. Basecoat, shade, highlight, highlight. So that's neat, I can paint draped cloth, flesh, that kind of poo poo. I have no loving clue how to paint sci-fi armor. How do I sci-fi?

This kind of thing:



There are so many little edges and I can't hit them without getting paint on panels.

You can try a sort of reverse edging; choose a uniform color and prime it that, give it a coat of wash with like nuln oil or your preferred ink and then on the larger, flatter panels with the original color blending lighter as you get to the edge. Also with models that hug their guns that tight it's perfectly fine to paint the arms and fun separately.

Chance II
Aug 6, 2009

Would you like a
second chance?
Painted some more of the big monsters from BloodRage and got access to a camera that can actually take close up pictures.









signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

You can try a sort of reverse edging; choose a uniform color and prime it that, give it a coat of wash with like nuln oil or your preferred ink and then on the larger, flatter panels with the original color blending lighter as you get to the edge. Also with models that hug their guns that tight it's perfectly fine to paint the arms and fun separately.


I'm sure on other models that's fine, these are a nightmare to fit together. In any case, I'll give that a shot.



What was the consensus on what to do with used Simple Green/Purple Power? Cat litter?

A Single Sphink
Feb 10, 2004

COMICS CRIMINAL

Chance II posted:

Painted some more of the big monsters from BloodRage and got access to a camera that can actually take close up pictures.











I love those sculpts so much. Do you know if they plan on selling them as standalone figures?

Chance II
Aug 6, 2009

Would you like a
second chance?
I haven't heard anything about since it was released. It would be cool though. A lot of the models would make cool Frostgrave units.

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh
The whole thing is only $75 on Amazon and comes with a butt-ton of other minis and a good game to go along with it, so there's no real reason not to just buy the box.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Wow, that's $72 CDN at meeplemart for a damaged box. Are the minis the Wrath of Kings material that got discussed in the DZ:I kickstarter comments, or something else? Like 'better than bones and PP restic, worse than HIPS'?

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh
I don't have any WoK, but that's what I've heard. They're a bit floppy but nowhere near as bad as Bones.

LordAba
Oct 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Spiderdrake posted:

Wow, that's $72 CDN at meeplemart for a damaged box. Are the minis the Wrath of Kings material that got discussed in the DZ:I kickstarter comments, or something else? Like 'better than bones and PP restic, worse than HIPS'?

Yes on your last question. Pretty nice, and the mold lines aren't bad, but are a bit of work to take off.

Honestly half of mold line removal is placement of the parts.

EDIT: They aren't floppy at all, though the Wraith of Kings models have HIPS for the weapons to reduce the odds of that. Great, GREAT combo.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
Content



edit: I loving hate photos

signalnoise fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Mar 29, 2016

lemonadesweetheart
May 27, 2010

Can someone let me know decent ratio for vallejo glaze medium to vmc and citadel paints. I tried 50/50 but it wasnt very glazey.

Electric Hobo
Oct 22, 2008

What a view!

Grimey Drawer
There's a pretty good guide for glazes here: http://youngwolf7.com/?page_id=1448
The guy uses 1:12 paint to medium for his favorite mix, so you need a lot more medium.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Spiderdrake posted:

Wow, that's $72 CDN at meeplemart for a damaged box. Are the minis the Wrath of Kings material that got discussed in the DZ:I kickstarter comments, or something else? Like 'better than bones and PP restic, worse than HIPS'?

The Wrath of Kings stuff is a touch softer than GW, but nowhere near Bones. The only complaints I have regarding WoK material is that some of the parts are incredibly thin and have a tendency to get bent. For instance, I've got a Deepman with a sword that I accidentally poked into something, and now it has a slight angle. It's certainly nothing to cause any concern though.

LordAba posted:

EDIT: They aren't floppy at all, though the Wraith of Kings models have HIPS for the weapons to reduce the odds of that. Great, GREAT combo.
Is it a different material for the weapons? It all seems like the same plastic to me, just thicker for the actual bodies.

richyp
Dec 2, 2004

Grumpy old man

lemonadesweetheart posted:

Can someone let me know decent ratio for vallejo glaze medium to vmc and citadel paints. I tried 50/50 but it wasnt very glazey.

It's the same scenario as how much water should you use to thin paint, i.e. it depends on the brand, age, consistency etc... of the paint. Then factor in how translucent you want the glaze to be, when I'm glazing I'll keep adding medium to the thinned paint and then paint it over existing paint on my palette until I get the desired level of tinting. It's pretty much always different ratios especially as I already have medium added to my water pot in addition to dropping it on to the palette on average though:

1:1 is pretty much just thinned paint that will dry slightly slower.
1:5-8 is good for darkening an existing colour without totally covering the underlying colour.
1:8-12 is a 50% transparent wash that stays put. If you've ever used any of VMC's transparent colours it's more or less the same
1:15+ is slightly tinted water great for subtle shadows in cheeks and eye sockets etc..

There's a range of 5-8/8-12 etc.. that I pulled out of my arse as every paint is different but if you aim for those values and tweak with more medium as necessary you'll get a feel for what works best for you.

richyp
Dec 2, 2004

Grumpy old man
Double post. Finished off the first rank of Skeleton Warriors but have no idea where my camera's disappeared to, in a toy box somewhere I suspect. So have a nice yellow tinted Camera Phone shot.



EDIT: Couldn't find my new camera but I managed to fix up my trusty SLR that's been broken for a couple of years thanks to a snapped pin. Much better shot now:

richyp fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Mar 29, 2016

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
The Wrath of Kings weapons, the ones that come on sprues, are actually ABS, not restic or HIPS. It's not as detailed a process, so that's why it's usually only for swords and other long straight weapons.

IIRC, the Deepmen don't have any ABS, but the Kaxes and Carcharodon weapons are.

Gareth Gobulcoque
Jan 10, 2008



This guy! I picked him up on clearance from CMON while buying some bases. Since it wasn't very expensive I didn't feel obligated to do a super technical job with really crisp blends. Since it's more artsy, I wanted a much looser painterly feel to it, so it was done entirely with wet blends. I also really wanted to do purple and green partly for the challenge and partly for the spring theme in the oath thread. I did strip it half way through as I was planning on doing multi directional lighting, but that ended in disaster. On the whole, pretty satisfied.

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JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
I totally have looked at that model in the clearance section many a time. Glad someone pulled the trigger on it.

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