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NattyBo
Sep 20, 2004

Football Team.

BAILOUT MCQUACK! posted:

I can't find a definitive answer on this, do enemies always re-spawn or do they have a set number of re-spawns like in DS2?

They always respawn

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Orv
May 4, 2011
There is at least one minor, tiny area where the three enemies in there don't respawn, but that's all I've seen.

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009



I finally found Rosaria so I donated all my covenant items and got a ring. Anyone know what that does? Also, what do the other 2 options on the menu mean. I see the number "5" in the text, so I assume I have to give up 5 items for... something to happen.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Alabaster White posted:

I finally found Rosaria so I donated all my covenant items and got a ring. Anyone know what that does? Also, what do the other 2 options on the menu mean. I see the number "5" in the text, so I assume I have to give up 5 items for... something to happen.

That five refers to the amount of times you can do it on that character. You can be reborn (change your appearance) or respec five times on a single character or playthrough, it looks like

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009



Lovely Senorita posted:

That five refers to the amount of times you can do it on that character. You can be reborn (change your appearance) or respec five times on a single character or playthrough, it looks like

Ooh, I had no idea those were tied together. Glad to see the red covenant getting all the cool stuff again :c00l:


I was suddenly overtaken by an overwhelming urge to kill the Darkmoon lady at Firelink. Hope that didn't gently caress up a questline or something :v:

e: vvvv oh man that's really useful, I was wondering how to get that for myself

Kite Pride Worldwide fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Mar 28, 2016

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Alabaster White posted:

I finally found Rosaria so I donated all my covenant items and got a ring. Anyone know what that does? Also, what do the other 2 options on the menu mean. I see the number "5" in the text, so I assume I have to give up 5 items for... something to happen.

Thief ring, makes you invisible at a distance in pvp

Scrree
Jan 16, 2008

the history of all dead generations,
For anyone who missed the 10am Wedneday release and was wondering what real early PvP looked like I've uploaded some minimally edited footage I took in the first two days. Obvious spoilers for the areas up to and a little after the third boss.

https://fat.gfycat.com/OldMeaslyJunco.webm

Scrree fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Mar 28, 2016

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

There doesn't seem to be video proof yet but consensus seems to be that both miracles and sorceries are bugged out the rear end right now and that increasing INT/FAI or upgrading spell tools have absolutely no effect on damage. If there was one thing that needed to be fixed in that day one patch, it's that, because the new animations for magic are incredibly good and I'm probably going to roll three different characters just to try out every spell in the game once it's fixed.

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009



net cafe scandal posted:

There doesn't seem to be video proof yet but consensus seems to be that both miracles and sorceries are bugged out the rear end right now and that increasing INT/FAI or upgrading spell tools have absolutely no effect on damage. If there was one thing that needed to be fixed in that day one patch, it's that, because the new animations for magic are incredibly good and I'm probably going to roll three different characters just to try out every spell in the game once it's fixed.

Yeah, I've been using Magic Weapon and it gives me a whopping +25 damage no matter what my INT or catalyst level is at. I thought maybe they were nerfing the hell out of buff spells but I guess spell formula bug is more likely.

CuddlyZombie
Nov 6, 2005

I wuv your brains.

My hopes are that they fix that scaling, and also that there is some sort of revelation about Darkmoon Blades and how on earth they are different from Blue Sentinels. Like, what is even the deal?

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009



CuddlyZombie posted:

My hopes are that they fix that scaling, and also that there is some sort of revelation about Darkmoon Blades and how on earth they are different from Blue Sentinels. Like, what is even the deal?

Blue Sentinels warp in to help out Way of Blue members from invaders, while Darkmoons invade people who have already successfully invaded before as a form of retribution. Unless that's not how it works anymore.

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

Alabaster White posted:

Blue Sentinels warp in to help out Way of Blue members from invaders, while Darkmoons invade people who have already successfully invaded before as a form of retribution. Unless that's not how it works anymore.

It seems that Sentinels and Darkmoons are functionally identical which is my least favorite thing I've heard about the game.

CuddlyZombie
Nov 6, 2005

I wuv your brains.

Alabaster White posted:

Blue Sentinels warp in to help out Way of Blue members from invaders, while Darkmoons invade people who have already successfully invaded before as a form of retribution. Unless that's not how it works anymore.

That's how one would think it works, but as it is, they're apparently identical.


E: The other thing I think is weird is that I'm confused about Mound Maker summon signs. Like, what's the incentive to summon them? It's not a huge problem since Mound Makers can just get their shackles by invading, but it'd make more sense if there was a reason to summon them. If you summon and kill a Mound Maker, do you get a shackle of your own?

CuddlyZombie fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Mar 28, 2016

turtlecrunch
May 14, 2013

Hesitation is defeat.

net cafe scandal posted:

There doesn't seem to be video proof yet but consensus seems to be that both miracles and sorceries are bugged out the rear end right now and that increasing INT/FAI or upgrading spell tools have absolutely no effect on damage. If there was one thing that needed to be fixed in that day one patch, it's that, because the new animations for magic are incredibly good and I'm probably going to roll three different characters just to try out every spell in the game once it's fixed.

I chose...poorly. :negative:

Anyway I finally beat Aldritch and moved onto the area after DOTFV, and I have to say the hits keep coming in this game. I went down, heard a kind of screaming, went through the fog and... :eyepop: and then :eyepop: again after I did a bit of damage. And now I'm exploring upstairs and well The Way is Shut and it was the most amazing way of blocking my path ever and I love this game...

Boomstick Quaid
Jan 28, 2009

CuddlyZombie posted:

That's how one would think it works, but as it is, they're apparently identical.


E: The other thing I think is weird is that I'm confused about Mound Maker summon signs. Like, what's the incentive to summon them? It's not a huge problem since Mound Makers can just get their shackles by invading, but it'd make more sense if there was a reason to summon them. If you summon and kill a Mound Maker, do you get a shackle of your own?

I think you'd advance way of blue since you get covenant items for killing invaders

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

CuddlyZombie posted:

That's how one would think it works, but as it is, they're apparently identical.


E: The other thing I think is weird is that I'm confused about Mound Maker summon signs. Like, what's the incentive to summon them? It's not a huge problem since Mound Makers can just get their shackles by invading, but it'd make more sense if there was a reason to summon them. If you summon and kill a Mound Maker, do you get a shackle of your own?

You have to use your imagination for that one. A purple could come in handy as an escort through Aldrich Faithful/Watchdogs territory for example as somebody rolling with the purples might be a bit more comfortable with PVP than some white phantom off the street. Some will be totally ignorant of what a purple actually does. Some might summon you out of desperation for a difficult stretch in the game. Some might do it for funsies since there really is no telling what will happen upon summoning - a Moundmaker's duty can be fulfilled by killing another dark spirit. Sometimes you'll just be summoned so the host can kick your rear end just like a red soapstone sign. I raised my eyebrow at the covenant at first but I think theres plenty of opportunity for it to be cool, especially since the risk of just getting summoned into a gank squad is partially rebuffed by the fact that groups of 2 or more attract random invaders real easy and a situation with multiple factions fighting at once is where an errant purple really has a chance to shine.

Please From just give me my blue eye orb, and put a PVP arena in the DLC, and this will have the best multi of any Souls game ever.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

You can put on the white or no aura ring as a purple just to muddy the waters further.

The Insect Court
Nov 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Is there a covenant equivalent to Path of the Dragon/Dragon Remnants for the losers who enjoy ~honorable battle~?

And how does summon range work? Is there a soul memory equivalent?

VextheGrey
Dec 3, 2000

"No, Sasquatch! NOOOOO!!"

net cafe scandal posted:

There doesn't seem to be video proof yet but consensus seems to be that both miracles and sorceries are bugged out the rear end right now and that increasing INT/FAI or upgrading spell tools have absolutely no effect on damage. If there was one thing that needed to be fixed in that day one patch, it's that, because the new animations for magic are incredibly good and I'm probably going to roll three different characters just to try out every spell in the game once it's fixed.

Yeah, it's pretty terrible. I just spent my last 10ish levels upping attunement and faith for my str/fth build. I mean, a 44 damage lightning bolt isn't the worst I guess, but time to burn a respec. I was going to make a build around the executioner's sword, what with 30fp on kill in the xb1 version, but I suspect that has to be bugged or primed for nerf, so wasted titanite too.

Astroduck
Aug 30, 2006

Before killing Yhorm and Aldrich , I activated the Dancer of the Boreal Valley fight and homeward boned out. Later after I killed Yhorm and Aldrich, you get teleported into that room to fight the Dancer. Since I has already started the fight, the boss was already there and was completely unaggressive. It let me kill it without fighting back and the ladder still came down after, so it didn't mess up my ability to progress.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.
That explains even high sorceries being piss-weak. Patch tomorrow likely only for performance, so I'll have to wait with respeccing my main and smashing NG+ :(

Chameleon exists, 12 INT required. Six bosses needed to reach that point. I need to get that going on a twink-build. Not that many useful disguises outside of DS1 tradition.

NattyBo I'm ready to trade you stuff once servers go back online, just that I need one more item: Solaire's shield.

Astroduck posted:

Before killing Yhorm and Aldrich , I activated the Dancer of the Boreal Valley fight and homeward boned out. Later after I killed Yhorm and Aldrich, you get teleported into that room to fight the Dancer. Since I has already started the fight, the boss was already there and was completely unaggressive. It let me kill it without fighting back and the ladder still came down after, so it didn't mess up my ability to progress.

Speedruntrick if I ever saw one. [spoiler]What goes into activating it, entering after a certiain stage in the game?

Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Mar 28, 2016

Space Harrier
Apr 19, 2007
GET READY!!!!
Where is everyone getting this idea that the unpatched Xbox One version is easier? I understand that the developers made a special supposedly easier version of this game for the press, but didn't that version only include a small portion of the game? I would assume that what I'm playing, which is labelled as version 1.0 , is the same code that's being pressed and shipped onto disc.

Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

Space Harrier posted:

Where is everyone getting this idea that the unpatched Xbox One version is easier? I understand that the developers made a special supposedly easier version of this game for the press, but didn't that version only include a small portion of the game? I would assume that what I'm playing, which is labelled as version 1.0 , is the same code that's being pressed and shipped onto disc.

People have tested the damage numbers of the 1.0 and the 1.1, and in the former the enemies do ~30% less damage.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

Genocyber posted:

People have tested the damage numbers of the 1.0 and the 1.1, and in the former the enemies do ~30% less damage.

There's also damage resistance differences involved and it gets easier later in the game as the scaling grows. Them lucky bastards.

Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Mar 28, 2016

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009



I've always said the ice levels are best in Souls games, and this one is no exception :stare::love:

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

Christ alive the Miracles in this game are beautiful. They definitely took a page from the Tonitrus for the lightning effects - please God I hope they fix miracle damage in time for US release.

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

Even Sorceries look good and impactful now.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
I'm gonna be hellof mad if they dont fix it b/c quality builds are way duller than phys/magic hybrids for the same points

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!
Anyone used the tears of denial miracle and can you confirm if it works like second chance?

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

Tip for anyone playing - dont join Rosarias Fingers until youve unlocked all 7 other covenants. Dark Souls is confusing

net cafe scandal fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Mar 28, 2016

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

It doesn't prevent you from joining other covenants

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

lets hang out posted:

It doesn't prevent you from joining other covenants

I heard it can lock you out of Darkmoons although it may be the respec option that does that.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

net cafe scandal posted:

I heard it can lock you out of Darkmoons although it may be the respec option that does that.

NattyBo was unable to join the spoilered one and he'd gone hollow, I had not on my main chara. No PvP invasions on my main character either, no NPC kills, sinless?

Idea: get rid of your sins wwith Velka's statue

Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Mar 28, 2016

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

Actually for those of you with the game I'm reading that the red soapstone now works the same way as the Dragon Eye, more or less. Apparently you can now see red signs while hollowed, with the area boss dead, and only when playing alone without co-op phantoms. Can anyone attest to this? Sounds perfect if so. But it does sound like bullshit.

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

Another thing - can you drop red soap signs in empty boss arenas?

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

I joined that covenant after Rosaria's, and I was all the way hollowed too. :shrug:

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Anyone know the softcaps for pyromancy scaling? I saw a streamer getting what looked like meaningful increases increases on his pyromancy flame's spellpower even after 30/30 INT/FAI, which is kinda where I'd hoped the softcap would be. Or maybe that is it and the gains are smaller than I realized.

I can't shake the desire to do a Dex + pyro hybrid run on my first playthrough, even though I know I'll be missing out on trying some fun quality weapons. :ohdear:

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

lets hang out posted:

I joined that covenant after Rosaria's, and I was all the way hollowed too. :shrug:

I wonder what the trigger is then.

Boomstick Quaid
Jan 28, 2009
I think you need a gesture from Sirris to get in, who won't give it to you if you've joined rosaria's fingers by then

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Genocyber
Jun 4, 2012

net cafe scandal posted:

I heard it can lock you out of Darkmoons although it may be the respec option that does that.

Joining Rosaria's Fingers makes the knight lady upset with you which prevents you form joining the covenant via her. But you can still access that covenant through another NPC: at the Anor Londo staircase, set it to its lower setting, and then walk off the top exit onto an invisible path.

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