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Electromax posted:So there are two things out there with blue people in a forest. If only he'd painted them purple instead. Avatar sucks
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It's too bad Divine is dead, he'd be perfect for Granny Goodness.MacheteZombie posted:People online are already claiming it's Steppenwolf This makes more sense. Avatar is kind of amazing, becuase it was huge, massive film, that has been completely forgotten. It's not something that people rave about, but every once and a while someone will bring it up and people will remember it. I feel like Jurrassic World suffered from the same thing.
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When exactly did "grosses a billion worldwide" become par for course for blockbusters? I remember when Avengers came out, it going over a billion was cited as something pretty remarkable, but now it seems relatively commonplace. The big question about The Force Awakens wasn't whether it'd make more than a billion, it was how much more than two billion it'd get. If you look at the list of the highest-grossing movies, most of the top ten are all from the last five years. I realise there's inflation, of course, but is it all down to China opening up as a market?
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Mar 28, 2016 22:30
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Another Lego Batman trailer. This is my Batman. https://youtu.be/LHgQSwgKygk
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Mar 28, 2016 22:35
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Wheat Loaf posted:When exactly did "grosses a billion worldwide" become par for course for blockbusters? I remember when Avengers came out, it going over a billion was cited as something pretty remarkable, but now it seems relatively commonplace. The big question about The Force Awakens wasn't whether it'd make more than a billion, it was how much more than two billion it'd get. If you look at the list of the highest-grossing movies, most of the top ten are all from the last five years. There's a number of factors, but China becoming such a huge player is definitely part of it. Mostly it's just down to expectations. With a $250M budget and $100-150M estimated on marketing analysts are saying after everyone gets their cuts of the money that the bare minimum to break even is around $800M worldwide. And you'd think they want to do significantly more than break even on a movie like this.
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I've actually just looked at Wikipedia, and it seems as though the only movies in the list of the top ten highest-grossing which pre-date 2010 are... Avatar and Titanic, the top two, which will probably never be toppled from their lofty perches. Star Wars has come closest and it had this colossal event at the back of it.
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Mar 28, 2016 23:00
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X-O posted:There's a number of factors, but China becoming such a huge player is definitely part of it. Mostly it's just down to expectations. With a $250M budget and $100-150M estimated on marketing analysts are saying after everyone gets their cuts of the money that the bare minimum to break even is around $800M worldwide. And you'd think they want to do significantly more than break even on a movie like this. Even setting aside the fact that WB already has no less than three films spinning out of this one that are already in (respectively) post-production, very late production, and very late pre-production, it's entirely possible that it'll fall short of the last two solo Batman films. That's not a good look. I obviously don't have access to WB's internal expectations, but I'd guess their reactions would be something like: >1.2B: great >1.1B: good <1.1B: satisfactory <1B: underperforming <900M: very disappointing <800M: panic, Tsujihara et al. commit mass suicide I doubt it'll end up above 1.1B or below 800M, though.
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Mar 28, 2016 23:36
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Oh if it ends up below 800 mill everybody is getting fired and all the late production movies are going to get pushed back for re-shoots and retooling but that is very unlikely to happen.
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Mar 29, 2016 00:20
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Yeah, still think it'll end up somewhere in between 900M and 1.1B when all's said and done. Its legs probably won't be *that* bad.
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I find it interesting people aren't liking the Fallout Batman dream, as it was one of my favorite parts of the movie. Though I guess if you aren't familiar with New Gods stuff It could come across confusing. Speaking of that, someone better make that Batman outfit for Fallout 4.
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twistedmentat posted:I find it interesting people aren't liking the Fallout Batman dream, as it was one of my favorite parts of the movie. Though I guess if you aren't familiar with New Gods stuff It could come across confusing. I don't think its so much that people hate the scene. Its just that its so out of place and its used as a plot device to bolster Bruce's mistrust of Clark and setup a future movie. Zach is trying to build a universe with many pieces shoved into one movie instead of a few pieces portrayed in a few movies. To his (and the franchise's) detriment in my opinion.
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Given the amount of marketing the opening numbers arent a surprise. I am more than a little curious about that huge drop right after though. Should be interesting to watch.
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Comfortador posted:I don't think its so much that people hate the scene. Its just that its so out of place and its used as a plot device to bolster Bruce's mistrust of Clark and setup a future movie. I guess that makes more sense, and just for clicks they're acting like people are hating it. Though a friend pointed out that it means the first Fourth World stuff in a movie was done by Synder.
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Mar 29, 2016 02:48
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twistedmentat posted:Though a friend pointed out that it means the first Fourth World stuff in a movie was done by Synder. Okay now I hate it.
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It's not true, there's a terrible 80s movie called Abraxas starring Jesse Ventura that's technically Fourth World.
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twistedmentat posted:Though a friend pointed out that it means the first Fourth World stuff in a movie was done by Synder. Coughcoughmastersofftheuniversehackhough
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Mar 29, 2016 03:59
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Zack Snyder wishes he could make something as good as Masters of the Universe.
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Yeah Abraxas and Masters of the Universe are basically Kirby Fourth World movies. Both suck though.
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Mar 29, 2016 04:23
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Lurdiak posted:Zack Snyder wishes he could make something as good as Masters of the Universe. Let's not be hasty. At least Snyder can make something visually interesting.
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Mar 29, 2016 04:38
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twistedmentat posted:I find it interesting people aren't liking the Fallout Batman dream, as it was one of my favorite parts of the movie. Though I guess if you aren't familiar with New Gods stuff It could come across confusing. I got the Darkseid stuff and I still didn't like it. It comes completely out of left field and since we have no connection to Superman, seeing him as dictator of the world isn't really a big shocking moment. It's not like the scene of him walking up and choking out Batman is contrasted with him playing with some kids in the park or anything. It's up against him frowning his way through explosions and fire and the Titanic from what I recall, though I'll grant I only saw it once. Plus it had Batman shootin motherfuckers like mad.
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First Major thing? Okay so I saw this a few times, when Bruce gets up in the morning there is a woman in his bed. I took the fact we don't see anything more than he's got a woman in his bed, but it was just showing that he was leading an empty life, that the woman meant nothing to him as nothing but a nights distraction, but some people have been suggesting that she was the deleted Barbara Gordon. I find that kind of creepy, like Wolverine sleeping with Kitty Pryde creepy; masters sleeping with students, especially when it's an man and a young woman. I think its more people trying to insert stuff that isn't there. redbackground posted:Coughcoughmastersofftheuniversehackhough According to any primary sources, it wasn't. Canon Films never had any license to produce anything, and its more fans noticing similarities.
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twistedmentat posted:According to any primary sources, it wasn't. Canon Films never had any license to produce anything, and it's more fans noticing similarities. Director Gary Goddard posted:As the director of Masters of the Universe, it was a pleasure to see that someone got it. Your comparison of the film to Kirby’s New Gods was not far off. In fact, the storyline was greatly inspired by the classic Fantastic Four/Doctor Doom epics, The New Gods and a bit of Thor thrown in here and there. I intended the film to be a "motion picture comic book," though it was a tough proposition to sell to the studio at the time. 'Comics are just for kids,' they thought. They would not allow me to hire Jack Kirby who I desperately wanted to be the conceptual artist for the picture… So no, it was never intended to be an official Fourth World movie, but it sure is an unapologetic love letter to it. redbackground fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Now this is an article I trustquote:How ‘Batman V Superman’ Will Turn A Profit Despite Critical Kryptonite
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redbackground posted:Well, and the director himself: It's more accurate to say its a love letter to Kirby, which is perfect. Ouch, 65% decline in its second weekend.
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Mar 29, 2016 05:33
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It apparently dropped 55% from Friday to Sunday beating out Fant4stic Four's 47% drop off.
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It's not directly comparable to others because of the Easter weekend though. Others haven't opened on Easter weekend.
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twistedmentat posted:First Major thing? She's meant to be faceless. Compare that and Bruce's relationship with his mother to Clark with Lois and his mom. If you want another angle, throw in Lex and his relationship with Mercy (who is totally into him), and his mother (who is never mentioned). People complain about how unsubtle the movie is, but I really don't know if there is room for subtlety with modern movie audiences. You need a Lex Luthor to spell things out. I don't mind because I'm the type of person that finds comfort in my fears being punched in the face by men in colorful costumes.
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twistedmentat posted:First Major thing? I'm pretty sure that was a small nod to Bruce Wayne's womanizing ways across all depictions of him in media. I don't think it was big enough to necessitate projection, talking about his mom, or assuming it was Barbara goddamn Gordon. It's okay to like this movie without pretending it's the most complex and thought provoking thing in existence.
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Yea, its supposed to be something that's just part of his empty life, not some hidden clue to anything. God drat nerds will make up theories about anything just to make themselves look smart, or try to place deeper meaning on something. Like the loving "The Joker is actually Jason Todd" crap.
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Remember that horseshit when Dark Knight came out and people thought they'd found The Riddler.
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twistedmentat posted:First Major thing? Wouldn't be the first time that happened, and in a much better continuity, too.
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Electromax posted:So there are two things out there with blue people in a forest. If only he'd painted them purple instead.
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Lurdiak posted:Remember that horseshit when Dark Knight came out and people thought they'd found The Riddler. The Riddler could be a really awesome villain if done right, though. Really play up Batman's detective angle, have the Riddler be a really sharp "Order and logic" counterpoint to the Joker's "Chaos and mayhem", etc. I guess about the closest we've ever come to something like that on screen was "Die Hard With A Vengeance"?
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I have no issue with Riddler being in a Batman movie and that might've been a good way to go for the third film but I'm talking about the stupid-rear end conspiracy theory based on a pun.
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Xenomrph posted:The Riddler could be a really awesome villain if done right, though. Really play up Batman's detective angle, have the Riddler be a really sharp "Order and logic" counterpoint to the Joker's "Chaos and mayhem", etc. People don't seem to care about the Worlds Greatest Detective Batman, and just want to see Punch and Gadget Batman these days. Why I love Long Halloween so much, most of it is Batman investigating, and the Holiday Murders being so strange that he can't even fully solve them.
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Mr. Detective didn't even notice he was followed 5 feet back down the stairs.
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Aphrodite posted:Mr. Detective didn't even notice he was followed 5 feet back down the stairs. To be fair, it was Wonder Woman, but yea, that always feels like the movies leave that aspect out of the character. I mean, the closest we got in the Nolan ones is that weird scene with the bricks, which never made any sense to me. how could you get a finger print from a random bullet, and not the one fired?
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It was Superman I was thinking of. He follows him down pretty closely since they're in the same shot, but gets distracted by the TV. Wonder Woman was presumably already downstairs, since she had just taken the drive.
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twistedmentat posted:To be fair, it was Wonder Woman, but yea, that always feels like the movies leave that aspect out of the character. I mean, the closest we got in the Nolan ones is that weird scene with the bricks, which never made any sense to me. how could you get a finger print from a random bullet, and not the one fired?
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