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Baronjutter posted:The french developed a literal mechanism for bringing powerful but useless unelected officials to heel. Where is CI and his guillotine gif when you need it?
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Hand Knit posted:I forget whether this is stated outright, but the structure of the book can basically be subdivided as (1) the conventional neoliberal "there is no alternative" historiography; (2) examples where the neoliberal policy package has been unnecessary; (3) examples where the neoliberal policy package has been insufficient The best filter.
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Slightly Toasted posted:Oh yay MB liberals are announcing 5-6 years of deficits too now this is probably the most optimal time to run a deficit in the history of our country . there is nothing wrong with running a deficit when you can borrow at near 0 interest with near 0 to negative inflation
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Mar 28, 2016 20:32
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McGavin posted:The best filter. Who said anything about a filter?
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Baronjutter posted:The french developed a literal mechanism for bringing powerful but useless unelected officials to heel. Could you give us some pointers on how to set this up? I think Canadians should get right to work on this, chop chop! e: jsoh posted:this is probably the most optimal time to run a deficit in the history of our country . there is nothing wrong with running a deficit when you can borrow at near 0 interest with near 0 to negative inflation  you're going to ruin the panic!
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jsoh posted:this is probably the most optimal time to run a deficit in the history of our country . there is nothing wrong with running a deficit when you can borrow at near 0 interest with near 0 to negative inflation Spotted the realtor(tm).
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Baronjutter posted:The french developed a literal mechanism for bringing powerful but useless unelected officials to heel. Canadian Napoleon's gonna be great, can't wait to freeze to death in the retreat from Alaska.
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Constant Hamprince posted:Canadian Napoleon's gonna be great, can't wait to freeze to death in the retreat from Alaska. Please. We will march on Russia like a proper Napoleon. (Then drown in the summer, to mix it up.)
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jsoh posted:this is probably the most optimal time to run a deficit in the history of our country . there is nothing wrong with running a deficit when you can borrow at near 0 interest with near 0 to negative inflation We could loan ourselves the money at zero interest if we actually wanted to. The entire fiscal framework of the government is mostly a pantomime designed to prevent what the business sector would perceive as government over reach (or, if you ask somebody with a more technocratic perspective like Pinterest Mom, they'll claim it's because of concerns about rampant inflation). The trouble with these deficits is that much of the money is spent to pay off political favours rather than making some of the smarter long term investments that would really benefit us, and then quite often the costs of deficit spending become an excuse to cut services, raise fees and lay off workers. The Ontario and Canadian governments went deep into deficit and probably did help reduce the full impact of the last economic downturn by doing so, but the lives of most Canadians are mostly unaffected by all this and now the bill for that spending is being paid by any government dependent interest group who lacks sufficient organizational muscle to defend its interests. Personally I'm glad that the Canadian public is showing less concern about maintaining balanced budgets but frankly I do not trust the liberals enough to get all that enthusiastic about any economic policy they roll out. At the end of the day I think what really matters is who owes favours to whom. Most economic theory, by the time it reaches the point of actually influencing government behavior, is at least partially just an obfuscating veil to hide whatever agenda the government is pursing behind closed doors. That isn't to suggest that concerns about inflation or unemployment or productivity are totally fabricated or that economics is nothing but propaganda, but in practice I believe that it's mostly a mistake to try and understand government policy by appealing to theory. Under ordinary conditions theory is usually just whatever it needs to be for the governing party to keep its most powerful friends happy. Usually the rare good policy initiative we get is just a lucky accident where some interest group or some swing group of voters happened to want a handout that coincided with the public good.
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Today I passed a truck carrying two Saudi export LAV IIIs on the 401 heading to Montreal, it was weird to see the sanctity of government contracts in person. I can't wait to see them show up on YouTube shooting at civilians/getting blown up by a TOW.
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All the guys I work with are getting all pissy about "GAHH LIEBERAL DEFICIT" and conveniently forget the massive deficit that PMSH ran the first year in office.
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MA-Horus posted:All the guys I work with are getting all pissy about "GAHH LIEBERAL DEFICIT" and conveniently forget the massive deficit that PMSH ran the first year in office. It was pretty easy to forget
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Ikantski posted:It was pretty easy to forget Haha yeah like that time when Harper ran on an anti-corruption, pro-accountability platform. Good times my man good times. *lights fire to stack of PMO memos*
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It's really funny in retrospect seeing how much Harper's attitude to accountability and transparency changed once he realized he was going to be in office for more than a couple years of minority government. One of his big signature moves was establishing the Parliamentary Budget Officer, and you can just imagine how much of a headache he thought it would cause the next Liberal government. Except the Liberals turned out to be so incompetent that Harper kept winning and suddenly the PBO turned out to be such a huge head ache that Harper ended up slashing the budget of the watch dog agency that he himself had established.
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At least the creation of the office has emboldened Kevin Page to keep tabs on the federal budget even after he got the boot.
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lol all conservatives are trash bastards, no exceptions
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I agree that Mackay is probably the best, and O'Leary is probably the least distasteful of all the other candidates (and isn't that a sad state of affairs?). What are you hoping for? A non-conservative to lead the Conservative Party? Sadly, the CPC is not quite so dumb as the NDP when it comes to picking a leader, so I don't foresee that coming to pass.
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PT6A posted:I agree that Mackay is probably the best, and O'Leary is probably the least distasteful of all the other candidates (and isn't that a sad state of affairs?). What are you hoping for? A non-conservative to lead the Conservative Party? Sadly, the CPC is not quite so dumb as the NDP when it comes to picking a leader, so I don't foresee that coming to pass.  Not really, but it would be hilarious.
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BGrifter posted:
Stockwell [Doris] Day is one of the dumbest people on God's green earth. A potted plant would be a better leader than he was or would be again.
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PT6A posted:Stockwell [Doris] Day is one of the dumbest people on God's green earth. A potted plant would be a better leader than he was or would be again. I know, I lived in his riding. Having him ride back into federal politics on the back of Barney the Dinosaur would be fantastic.
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BGrifter posted:I know, I lived in his riding. Having him ride back into federal politics on the back of Barney the Dinosaur would be fantastic. No part of him being a meaningful part of federal politics would be fantastic, actually. EDIT: Isn't he a young-earth creationist? gently caress that poo poo in the ear, we can't let people who are that mentally defective be involved in any significant part of the legislative process.
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quote:Media covering the Day campaign bus, nicknamed "Prayer Force One", whistled The Flintstones theme song to mock the idea that humans and dinosaurs co-existed. Sometimes you're good people, Media.
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How is O'Leary less distasteful than Kenney or Chong? Out of that group, Kenney seems to be the most competent and Chong the least, uh, inflexible, I guess.
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eXXon posted:How is O'Leary less distasteful than Kenney or Chong? Out of that group, Kenney seems to be the most competent and Chong the least, uh, inflexible, I guess. Because O'Leary doesn't have a massive boner for Jesus.
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eXXon posted:How is O'Leary less distasteful than Kenney or Chong? Out of that group, Kenney seems to be the most competent and Chong the least, uh, inflexible, I guess. O'Leary is 'No True Conservative™', and thus, may be less passively malign than the rest.
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O'Leary is definitely my choice: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...?service=mobile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuqemytQ5QA Truly, the man is a national treasure.
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O'Leary is my choice if Mackay doesn't get the nod, because I'm politically gay: I'd rather an rear end in a top hat like O'Leary than a oval office like Kenney.
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CPC: A low-rent Trump impersonator is our second choice.
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infernal machines posted:CPC: A low-rent Trump impersonator is our second choice. He's not a racist, and he's not a bright orange colour. Hardly a Trump impersonator.
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He's not racist, that we know of, yet. But he's not yet leading the party that tried to turn a head garment into a wedge issue. Read that novel of a Globe and Mail article I posted, he's certainly in the same business league as Trump.
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infernal machines posted:He's not racist, that we know of, yet. But he's not yet leading the party that tried to turn a head garment into a wedge issue. Tried and failed spectacularly, I should say. I don't think the CPC will continue to fish in that pond. Let's face it: our political climate is very, very different from what exists in the US. If only because we have fewer complete bumpkins to foul the process up, for the most part.
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You do remember that Trump was a media personality not known for racism and authoritarian leanings until 8-9 months ago right? Lol if you don't think O'Leary is taking notes.
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Trumps business has an extremely long history of being racist as gently caress.
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jsoh posted:Trumps business has an extremely long history of being racist as gently caress. Yeah but I don't think people outside NYC really know that.
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Chong seems about as reasonable and competent as the CPC has to offer.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Yeah but I don't think people outside NYC really know that. There was a kerfuffle here in Toronto when it came out how the (then newly opened) Trump hotel treated people of colour.
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infernal machines posted:There was a kerfuffle here in Toronto when it came out how the (then newly opened) Trump hotel treated people of colour. Go on... Only thing I'd heard about it is the horrible construction and that it produced the best 0 star restaurant review the Globe has ever written. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life...rticle21833277/ Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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A man of Indian descent was turned away from the restaurant, when the article describing his experience came out a flurry of similar experiences came out. http://globalnews.ca/news/1902749/man-says-he-was-turned-away-from-trump-hotel-restaurant-due-to-his-turban/
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