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like I'm starting to wonder if he's just a kid (Note his constant attempts to be a completely uninvited arbiter of what's "childish" and what isn't, like how non cgi effects are childish because power rangers used them and prequel dislikers are rejecting something not from their childhood, he's desperate to be seen as "mature"), a troll, or has something actually wrong with him. I've pm'd mods before to ban him or something but apparently making completely breathtakingly stupid points and repeating them until everyone has forgotten what the point of the thread was is technically not against the rules.
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MisterBibs posted:I'm "not bothering to pay attention" to things that fly directly in the face of what two movies have made plainly clear. I don't know why you (or others) came into a Superman film expecting anything short of trusting Superman being an absolute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7QZgH1eP2o
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what's the video where they're in the old ladies house and Mike calls China?
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MisterBibs posted:I'm "not bothering to pay attention" to things that fly directly in the face of what two movies have made plainly clear. I don't know why you (or others) came into a Superman film expecting anything short of trusting Superman being an absolute. That is exactly what I'm saying. I want a Superman film where trust in Superman can be implicit, a movie where Supes can a stand-in for an all loving god. However that isn't the movie they gave us. They gave us a Batman movie where Batman has Superman's powers. The movie does not have the essential atmosphere of hope and optimism that one should have in a Superman film. It's trying to shame an audience for liking grim and gritty 90s-esque super hero movies, while still being a grim and gritty 90s-esque super hero movie. Are you just incapable of appreciating or noticing atmosphere and tone in a movie Bibs? Do you not understand that it is a movie's job to get people into a specific emotional state so they can properly enjoy the movie, and that failing to do so is a failure of the movie? Can you only process movies as a series of factual statements about a fictional world?
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Terrible Opinions posted:That is exactly what I'm saying. I want a Superman film where trust in Superman can be implicit, a movie where Supes can a stand-in for an all loving god. They did. It's called BvS. It's a sequel to a movie called Man of Steel, which did the same thing. They did it by having a guy whose character is inherently, unarguably, intractably coded as a hero long before frame one airs. You cannot separate the implicit trust Superman engenders from the Superman character. In this respect, the movie cannot fail, only the audience can. It did for some. We're discussing a review by people who failed. For God's sake, BvS is a direct response to how some people saw Superman defending the world from another alien and came out of it with the bizarre notion that Superman was wrong. This is an issue that BvS resolves in the end: people who judge Superman harshly, in the end, throw him a funeral. Because they were wrong. The hero that personifies that wrongness is converted. Terrible Opinions posted:Do you not understand that it is a movie's job to get people into a specific emotional state so they can properly enjoy the movie, and that failing to do so is a failure of the movie? They did that by making the character Superman, though, and not some knockoff Superman where the notion of him not being trustworthy is possible. e: vvv dude, we're discussing stuff here. Say what you will about me, I'm not just spouting one-liners or content-less posts. Christ, I edit my posts obsessively to add more content because I'm constantly worried I'm not putting enough in. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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oh my god oh my god stopMisterBibs posted:e: vvv dude, we're discussing stuff here. Say what you will about me, I'm not just spouting one-liners or memes. You ain't "discussing" loving poo poo. You wouldn't know what discussion was if it drove a bus through your face. The fact that you can even read in the first place is remarkable. Your stupidity is quite frankly awe inspiring and I mean in the "old" way. The depths of your bullheaded stubborn thoughtlessness inspires fear within me. You are a gibbering unknowable lovecraftian entity of pure vapid voidlike stupidity. STOP POSTING NecroMonster fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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MisterBibs posted:You cannot separate the implicit trust Superman engenders from the Superman character. Exactly! You can't! But Zachy Snydes didn't know that, and decided to try anyways and guess what it sucks poo poo through a straw.
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Terrible Opinions posted:That is exactly what I'm saying. I want a Superman film where trust in Superman can be implicit, a movie where Supes can a stand-in for an all loving god. However that isn't the movie they gave us. They gave us a Batman movie where Batman has Superman's powers. The movie does not have the essential atmosphere of hope and optimism that one should have in a Superman film. It's trying to shame an audience for liking grim and gritty 90s-esque super hero movies, while still being a grim and gritty 90s-esque super hero movie. "Not my Superman"
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MisterBibs posted:Zod was the instigating factor in a war being held on Earth. It was Zod's decision to go to Earth to avenge his capture by Jor-El. hey, retard MisterBibs posted:The only people who think that he's not a Good Guy who's presence has forced earth into a chaos of arena and destruction are, in both films, proven entirely wrong. If Superman wasn't on Earth, Zod wouldn't have come to earth. Superman's presence caused the destruction. If Superman wasn't there, Metropolis wouldn't have been destroyed. It's inarguable
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like the whole point is that this superman isn't "your" superman but here is this guy resolutely shaking his head and repeating over and over that no actually it is "your" superman
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boom boom boom posted:If Superman wasn't on Earth, Zod wouldn't have come to earth. Superman's presence caused the destruction. If Superman wasn't there, Metropolis wouldn't have been destroyed. It's inarguable Superman had no choice in coming to Earth. I'll need to do a rewatch to remember precisely when he's able to fly in MoS, but I remember it's long after he's matured into an adult. It's not long, if memory serves, between "I can leave this planet" and "Zod is coming and will kill literally everyone unless I stop it". NecroMonster posted:like the whole point is that this superman isn't "your" superman but here is this guy resolutely shaking his head and repeating over and over that no actually it is "your" superman "Not my Superman" is a falsehood, as there's only one that everyone knows and can be reliably counted on when making a Superman film. Anything but the generally-agreed-upon interpretation of a character is of no more merit than your average tvTroper's "these two characters are totally in love with each other". MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Mar 29, 2016 01:37
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MisterBibs posted:Superman had no choice in coming to Earth. That doesn't matter. Superman's presence on earth caused the problem. That is an inarguable fact of the movie.
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boom boom boom posted:That doesn't matter. Superman's presence on earth caused the problem. That is an inarguable fact of the movie. Well... you can argue it if you're dumb.
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boom boom boom posted:That doesn't matter. Superman's presence on earth caused the problem. That is an inarguable fact of the movie. Zod was the aggressor, though. Zod made the choiceto attack Earth. The dude who made the choice to attack Earth was Zod. He brought the conflict to Earth. Clark didn't have the choice to come to Earth. Christ, reductio ad absurdum it and go down the chain if you'd like. Do you blame Jor-El? Every Kyptonian for digging their own core out of the planet, causing Jor-El to make the choice to send Clark to Earth in the first place? MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Mar 29, 2016 01:42
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Like, this guy can't even understand that different interpretations of a character can both co-exist and remain distinct.
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MisterBibs posted:Zod was the aggressor, though. Zod made the choice to attack Earth. mother fucker, the entire point is that Superman's presence on earth causes all the problems Superman fights, so you can't say that it's wrong for people to reject his presence on earth.
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Of course Superman isn't morally culpable for what Zod did, but Zod only destroyed Metropolis because of Superman, so people saying "get out of here, Superman" is completely reasonable.
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boom boom boom posted:so you can't say that it's wrong for people to reject his presence on earth. Why would I have to say it, when the movies RLM has reviewed makes it abundantly clear that the people who reject his presence on Earth are misguided and wrong, twice-over? Don't get me wrong, the notion that there was a need for the debate in the first place was a nonsensical one, but at least BvS resolved the issue with finality. After BvS, there's no space for fearing Superman (when he comes back, of course). Granted, that was the end-point of MoS too, but there's no need to do it again. e: vvv no, that's a flaw of the viewer, not the movie. It's why critics like RLM kept bringing up MoS long before BvS even came out: the movie made one thing painfully clear, but they still thought it was wrong. Enter BvS, a movie that does it again because some folks didn't figure it out the first time. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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MisterBibs posted:Why would I have to say it, when the movies RLM has reviewed makes it abundantly clear that the people who reject his presence on Earth are misguided and wrong? That is a flaw with the movies! They present a Superman that it is totally reasonable to reject.
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TTBF posted:Can't trust him to be a good dad. Why can't we have this goofy, campy Superman poo poo in a movie? Why does everything have to be grimdark or ironic or deconstruct the superhero mythos? I don't want that po-faced mopey bullshit in my superhero stories, I want Superbabies and rainbow kryptonite and all that weird goofy crap. I say this as a guy who never really read the comics and has no stake in the character or the world, but the 60's-70's era comics look better than the recent movies from their covers alone.
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Please don't bring the quality of the movies into it when he cannot even comprehend the content of those movies.
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Who the H is Chris
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Lady Naga posted:Who the H is Chris BvS's main demographic https://twitter.com/GunwildPrime/status/713591522038562816 https://twitter.com/grandkeyzer/status/713753371824537600 https://twitter.com/GunwildPrime/status/713762998981169152 https://twitter.com/GunwildPrime/status/713765063203627008 my brain could only take so much, i had to go in https://twitter.com/Anawnnemus/status/714618402992590848 https://twitter.com/grandkeyzer/status/714379294164840448 
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Mar 29, 2016 02:15
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Why the gently caress do I care about some guy stop posting a million tweets from a random jagoff
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Twitter is for looking at porn, stop reading non-porn tweets.
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MisterBibs posted:"Not my Superman" is a falsehood, as there's only one that everyone knows and can be reliably counted on when making a Superman film. Anything but the generally-agreed-upon interpretation of a character is of no more merit than your average tvTroper's "these two characters are totally in love with each other".
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CelticPredator posted:i guess it's still just called alien 3  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71RJJ0umdjQ&t=3840s Gildiss fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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Mar 29, 2016 04:25
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HAHAHA Holy poo poo! That's great!
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The little head-shake from Rich Evans is what surprised me the most when that happened. I mean, in hindsight it makes sense since they prolly get that a lot (gee, I wonder why). Gotta give them credit, he didn't try and convince me of something that's inherently unconvincing.Terrible Opinions posted:Then why does the WB keep trying to make a movie out of Superman at Earth's end Superman? I had to look up what that is, not a surprise, and I don't see a single thing that WB is doing that comes even close to that. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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MisterBibs posted:The little head-shake from Rich Evans is what surprised me the most when that happened. I mean, in hindsight it makes sense since they prolly get that a lot (gee, I wonder why).
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MisterBibs posted:The little head-shake from Rich Evans is what surprised me the most when that happened. I mean, in hindsight it makes sense since they prolly get that a lot (gee, I wonder why). Gotta give them credit, he didn't try and convince me of something that's inherently unconvincing. Yeah, they caught on that you're an idiot.
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I love the way that they aren't angry, they're just disappointed. Its the kind of reaction that you have if your child still litters when you've tried to explain to them why not to in the past.
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Can we just post that gif as a response to every single Mr bibs post because at this point it's clear he's too utterly thick to change his mind
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