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Anidav posted:UNIVERSITY graduates may have to start paying their loans back sooner after a report revealed many students will never earn an income high enough to repay their HELP debts. I wonder what the increase in funding per student has been since 2009. Seems a bit misleading to whinge about it doubling compared to GDP if the number of students has doubled. What they should do (assuming abolishing HECS entirely is off the table) is means test HECS and if your parents have earned less than a certain amount over the past couple of years you don't incur a HECS debt at all. I guess NZ is too closely tied to Australia to be much use as a HECS haven when I graduate right?
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Amazingly I bet they haven't considered the the knock-on effects of targeting lower income earners. For some bizarro reason these right-wing bootstraps people must think that you can adjust who has to pay X and magically all this money comes floating in. I hope they aren't holding their breath WRT people overseas paying back HECS.
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Recoome posted:Amazingly I bet they haven't considered the the knock-on effects of targeting lower income earners. For some bizarro reason these right-wing bootstraps people must think that you can adjust who has to pay X and magically all this money comes floating in. I don't think it's a rational response, it's about externalizing the poo poo they know they're in for, and somehow they'll never have pay for anything themselves. Blaming poors for the state of the economy is just a bonus.
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:33 |
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fuckkin poors should just get a good job which pays good money
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:37 |
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I wonder why they don't make you pay your spouse's HECS if only one of you are over the repayment threshold. My wife is going to be a stay at home mum so I should probably repay her HECS when mine is done. Or will this not raise enough money for anyone to care? It seems fairer than pinging low income earners.
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bigis posted:I wonder why they don't make you pay your spouse's HECS if only one of you are over the repayment threshold. They'll get her HECS when she's dead
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:43 |
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Scott Morrison Diaries 29/03/2016: Will our budget emergency finally be fixed by loving the poor? Upon further research I have concluded that all economic problems will be fixed by loving the poor from all angles and disrupting social mobility. This sort of thinking has never been tried before so I am excited to show my findings to Malcolm and...
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:45 |
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becasue the tories ideologically support the institution of marriage and therefore wont do anything that puts a married couple in a worse position than two individuals filing their taxes alone
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bigis posted:I wonder why they don't make you pay your spouse's HECS if only one of you are over the repayment threshold. Nah mate, you'll get tax cuts and some sort of baby support bonus and a free car.
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:46 |
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Dat middle class welfare.
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:48 |
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Actually while I'm on a rant about poors, here's a really nice personal anecdote from me. I do a lot of work alongside my full-time university workload and my regular casual job as a waiter. This has ranged from youth work, to tutoring, through to doing research assistant work for psychology Ph.D students. I should have a counselling gig shortly, which is a lot of pressure. Of this, only the tutoring has been paid, with the rest basically being a combination of a) wanting to help and b) gaining experience. Unsurprisingly, I have essentially no free time at all and I don't get paid a whole lot. What triggers me greatly is the discussions I have with my Dad over why I am doing so much work for "experience" (viz. unpaid). As a successful military officer, he has no concept that in order to actually go further in my field (psychology), I have to work my rear end off and actually gain the right type of experience to I can apply to a Ph.D program. I framed this as "I must do X, Y, and Z in order to actually become A" because that's what you need to have in order to be competitive, whereas my older father believes I "choose to do what I do", and that I don't need help from the Govt. (i.e. Centrelink) because I could get a paid job doing what I essentially do for free. It just annoys the gently caress outta me to be constantly told I'm this lazy as gently caress 90's kid who needs to step up more and not be such a leaner because loving hell my life is poo poo right now because I am banking that this'll pay off one day. My life could be shittier but this whole idea that university students/graduates aren't contributing enough as a cohort loving triggers me so greatly that I am willing to write a whole bunch of words when I literally have 4 textbook-sized books on Cognitive Behavioural Therapy to read.
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:49 |
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Conservatives will only stop complaining about young people when it's legal to send them to work gulags to work for free. Oh wait gently caress.
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:51 |
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millenials
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:52 |
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Has there been a cohort of 20-30year olds since the baby boomers that hasn't been completely shat upon by the preceding generations? It's just more of them same. I look forward to to taking a hit to my income and/or quality of life to pay for nursing homes for boomers because god forbid we make them pay for that poo poo.
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:54 |
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Waiting for mother nature to cook up that airborne disease that only kills those over 69
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:55 |
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I mean like I'm real happy for a person who is at the peak of their career but I'm really feel like I'm getting hosed in the rear end here Like lol my parents unironically think I should be buying property, also they vote Liberal and so does my brother (I vote Greens)
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:02 |
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Then the bubble pops and they blame labor.
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:05 |
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Anidav posted:Waiting for mother nature to cook up that airborne disease that only kills those over 69 Sorry modern medicines going to keep them alive so they can stomp on face of humanities youth - forever.
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Recoome posted:As a successful military officer,
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:18 |
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Yeah can you imagine the exquisite cognitive dissonance I feel on a daily basis?
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:19 |
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Phoneposting so can't be hosed quoting the guy who said it, but voluntarily paying off a hecs debt is basically the dumbest thing ever. When you could get a 15-25% discount it could be made to stack up if you were debt free and the other option was investments that weren't making much more than CPI. The thing is now that HECS is so much lower than the interest rate on your house or car it's a no brainer to leave it unpaid if you have other debts. Even if you have no debt you are better off putting that money in a term deposit at the meagre rates the banks are paying for them.
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:28 |
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http://www.fortitude-australia.com
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:41 |
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Fortitude is an Australian political party, born of Australia's first patriotic street movement: the United Patriots Front. The UPF after splitting from the Reclaim Australia Committee first became active in May 2015 and has since been the most controversial political force in Australia. Originating in Melbourne, its founding members have endured constant slander and the most defamatory accusations from the mainstream press. The UPF in the beginning took a strong and public stance against further Islamic immigration, further building of mosques etc. This sparked outrage from among the egalitarian social circles, the adherents to which can be found at any time in their dwellings: State Universities, local institutions of government, news and journalistic organs and anywhere else in Australia where there is money & influence but no real work. And so we earned for ourselves a relentless enemy with a fanatical devotion to the global-equality concept, so fanatical that any conflict with them would strongly resemble a dispute with crazed members of some fundamentalist religion. Our members quickly learned that there was little which distinguished the egalitarian concept and its adherents from religious fundamentalism and its warriors, which is amusing when considering that these 'counter-protesters' all self-describe as 'intellectual atheists'. These self-proclaimed socialists, anarchists, the journalists in popular media, politicians and professors of 'distinction' etc expressed all the same qualities and vices present in the character and psychological make-up of a religious fanatic, since the equality concept is nothing more than a religion - and a false one at that - a religion to replace all other religions by subjugating all the peoples of the world and bringing them under a new law of equality by force and coercion. In fact the only essential difference between the equality concept and religious convictions is, in egalitarianism the God-figure is replaced with the idea of equality itself. I shall have more to say on this subject later. In any case this enemy has been proven indispensable for our development as a street political movement, its obsessive rantings, lack of emotional control and violent counter-protests have forced us into the faces of hundreds of thousands - or millions - of Australian people who would otherwise have never known we existed. Blair Cottrell the current Chairman of the movement seemed to have an unusual ability to predict every accusation or method of attack made against the movement before it was made - therefore the media's attacks were always and easily countered with calm rebuttals which reinforced the conviction of existing adherents and won new supporters from among the working masses. The movement was and is still protected against infiltration/internal subversion by the formation of a definite hierarchy, with a locked inner circle and the power of final decision residing in the Chairman. This firstly ensures that no State subversive or troublemaker may enter the movement and wreak havoc from within, their efforts are thus always attacks made from the external - easy to predict and easy to see. Secondly it preserves the original founding elements; the potency and purity of the doctrine and gives an appropriate status to every individual, encouraging efficiency, discipline and duty. After numerous public rallies and demonstrations (some of the largest Nationalistic rallies Australia has ever seen), the members announced the birth of Fortitude - to create a legitimate political arm which would coincide with and provide a new ambition for the UPF's street rallies. While Fortitude produces candidates to contest seats and pursues legitimate political power - the UPF will continue to dominate the streets with public rallies and demonstrations in the major cities and rural towns with the green and gold, creating an enormous suggestive spectacle, changing the way people feel and think about their Nation, reviving that sense of community, pride, honor and duty. For our people and our country.
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:50 |
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Calm rebuttals aye
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:50 |
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Recoome posted:Actually while I'm on a rant about poors, here's a really nice personal anecdote from me. I find it frankly sinister that you're being used as an intern like this, do you feel pressure to conform in order to get ahead as well?
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:57 |
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the leading way to become a successful clinical psychologist is to wait for one of the others to die
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 15:06 |
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Those poor rich white people and that reverse racism It should also depress everyone that racist South Africans come over here in droves and feel right at home.
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 15:32 |
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Apartheid gets such a bad rap these days, but no one ever talks about the multicultural-terror flood against good honest regular people it held back
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 15:51 |
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Think of all the sectarian violence Saddam stopped #justaskingquestions
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:15 |
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its fine to be a
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:25 |
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first-generation migrants can end up having really hosed up nationalist ideas about their adopted country
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:29 |
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I went to high school in the 80s and we had a few South African students. Most were so loving racist it was beyond parody, but one girl did try. But she kept getting stuck in the recursive narrative white South Africans were all taught - blacks are obviously inferior because they can't even read or write. There's no point in teaching them to read and write because they're so obviously inferior. It's been 30 years, I hope she managed to work her way out of that mindset, but I doubt it. Her parents were rich as hell and she probably ended up married to some equally well off afrikaner boy who spends all day reminiscing about when he had kaffirs to boss around and beat*. * and rape. Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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quote:http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/mar/29/states-offered-5bn-hospitals-funding-income-tax-raising-powers It's not perfect, but at least it's another step towards an independent ACT. open24hours fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Mar 30, 2016 |
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ewe2 posted:I find it frankly sinister that you're being used as an intern like this, do you feel pressure to conform in order to get ahead as well? yeah definitely
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 23:03 |
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I mean like everyone I work for is usually amazing, that's not really my problem. The issue I have is that we basically put so little money into mental health that unpaid internships are the only way for undergrads to gain experience unless you are about to luck out on a stable paid psychology job (you won't be working as a psych though, you need your degree first). It's this lovely catch-22 bullshit which forces undergrads to be slaves in order to have a chance at doing anything. But hey guys it's cause I'm a lazy no-good uni student i mean i'm just a leaner
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# ? Mar 29, 2016 23:14 |
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It sucks but the other option is to miss out to people who are able to put the unpaid time in. It's like being an actor or a musician or other jobs that people really want to do, it's very competitive.
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Recoome posted:I mean like everyone I work for is usually amazing, that's not really my problem. The issue I have is that we basically put so little money into mental health that unpaid internships are the only way for undergrads to gain experience unless you are about to luck out on a stable paid psychology job (you won't be working as a psych though, you need your degree first). It's this lovely catch-22 bullshit which forces undergrads to be slaves in order to have a chance at doing anything. I could understand your dad having weird and rigid ideas about working for free, but I honestly cannot see how he could turn that into the idea that you're the leaner.
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freebooter posted:I could understand your dad having weird and rigid ideas about working for free, but I honestly cannot see how he could turn that into the idea that you're the leaner. Because I'm not making money off a lot of the volunteer work. I also get centrelink e: I'm not paying taxes therefore I am a worthless complaining sponge Recoome fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Mar 29, 2016 |
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That's a great media representative to have where he won't show his face, let alone his whole name.
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