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Sober
Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.

muscles like this? posted:

It's a Canadian show and I believe it is actually ended which is why it's weird that USA is treating it like a new thing.
Wait, the show is done? I swear I saw commercials for that show just today.

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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Wiki says its on a final season that started last week.

Snak
Oct 10, 2005

I myself will carry you to the Gates of Valhalla...
You will ride eternal,
shiny and chrome.
Grimey Drawer
I did it. I survived season 5 of Justified on my second watchthrough.

Unrelated, I have never watched a Mobile Suit Gundam series in my life. But due to it being mentioned somewhere in some thread, I randomly started watching Iron-Blooded Orphans.

Norwegian Rudo
May 9, 2013

ShakeZula posted:

The show isn't bad, very much a police procedural. The twist (we learn the identity of the victim and the killer at the start of each episode, and we get parallel storylines building up to and investigating the murder) is interesting and generally well-done.

The twist works well in most cases as it allows the guest actors to really go to town instead of having to play it close to the vest to hide their guilt. All in all it's one of the very few procedurals I still watch and enjoy.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

corn in the bible posted:

it's a spanish period drama with a ninja in it. you can watch it on netflix if you life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APEzzYXFfhs

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm all in.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Snak posted:

Unrelated, I have never watched a Mobile Suit Gundam series in my life. But due to it being mentioned somewhere in some thread, I randomly started watching Iron-Blooded Orphans.
I don't really care for Gundam but it was a pretty cool show. The thread for it in ADTRW is horrifically bad though.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.
Okay so

I finally just watched the first episode of Teachers.

I mean

I heard this was good, but sweet Christ this is amazing. This is weapons-grade comedy; would only barely be out of place airing next to Broad City.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Snak posted:

I did it. I survived season 5 of Justified on my second watchthrough.

Unrelated, I have never watched a Mobile Suit Gundam series in my life. But due to it being mentioned somewhere in some thread, I randomly started watching Iron-Blooded Orphans.

yay1 You're in for a treat.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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DivisionPost posted:

Okay so

I finally just watched the first episode of Teachers.

I mean

I heard this was good, but sweet Christ this is amazing. This is weapons-grade comedy; would only barely be out of place airing next to Broad City.

Yeah more people should be watching Teachers. It's real fun.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

DivisionPost posted:

Okay so

I finally just watched the first episode of Teachers.

I mean

I heard this was good, but sweet Christ this is amazing. This is weapons-grade comedy; would only barely be out of place airing next to Broad City.

It's kind of sad it's on TVland because it means no one saw it, but it's an amazing show.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Snak posted:

I did it. I survived season 5 of Justified on my second watchthrough.

Unrelated, I have never watched a Mobile Suit Gundam series in my life. But due to it being mentioned somewhere in some thread, I randomly started watching Iron-Blooded Orphans.

good for you, Iron Blooded Orphans is dope as gently caress

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

sbaldrick posted:

It's kind of sad it's on TVland because it means no one saw it, but it's an amazing show.

I was happy to find out Hulu has TVLand shows. I was avoiding it but that Walmart spoof show isn't too bad either. The wannabe rapper boyfriend doing the airhorn noises is like laser focused to make me laugh.

The Duke
May 19, 2004

The Angel from my Nightmare

bring back old gbs posted:

I was happy to find out Hulu has TVLand shows. I was avoiding it but that Walmart spoof show isn't too bad either. The wannabe rapper boyfriend doing the airhorn noises is like laser focused to make me laugh.

He's only in like 3 episodes :smith:

The Duke fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Mar 29, 2016

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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What's that one called? I'll check it out too.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

EL BROMANCE posted:

What's that one called? I'll check it out too.

Superstore. I am pretty sure the actor who plays the Manager is a legit Muppets voice actor, for better or worse.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Cheers. Isn't there one on NBC with a similar name/premise, or is that the same show?

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

bring back old gbs posted:

Superstore. I am pretty sure the actor who plays the Manager is a legit Muppets voice actor, for better or worse.

That's Mark McKinney, from Kids in the Hall and SNL

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

ShakeZula posted:

That's Mark McKinney, from Kids in the Hall and SNL

Yeeesssssss, it was hitting some weird nostalgia part of my brain whenever I would hear him speaking a line without looking at the screen.

Sober
Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.

bring back old gbs posted:

I was happy to find out Hulu has TVLand shows. I was avoiding it but that Walmart spoof show isn't too bad either. The wannabe rapper boyfriend doing the airhorn noises is like laser focused to make me laugh.

That dude in Superstore is YMMV a bit but drat if it isn't hilarious the dude is basically a liberal hippie (like only a few degrees from Ilana in Broad City) trapped in a white trash body.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
How do writers' rooms work in TV dramas that have them? How are they organised? Do individual writers pitch stories which everyone works on. Do they all get together to thrash out what they want to do, then assign writers to particular episodes and send them off to write them? What's the process, generally? I've tried looking it up, but all I get on Google is the BBC Writersroom contest.

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer
The answer is always going to be "it depends". But a general overview would be, the showrunner has an idea of the stories they want to tell in the episode. The writers will all collaborate to flesh out the episode, decide on story beats and episode arcs, then the head writer for the episode will go off and write the episode. First draft will be complete and they will all meet up to tear the script apart. Rinse and repeat.

(this is all based off TV show podcasts I listen to. I have no actual experience)

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


EL BROMANCE posted:

Cheers. Isn't there one on NBC with a similar name/premise, or is that the same show?

Same show, likely. That's what the one on NBC is called. I thought it had been cancelled already, I haven't seen commercials for it or that Telenovella show in weeks.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Wheat Loaf posted:

How do writers' rooms work in TV dramas that have them? How are they organised? Do individual writers pitch stories which everyone works on. Do they all get together to thrash out what they want to do, then assign writers to particular episodes and send them off to write them? What's the process, generally? I've tried looking it up, but all I get on Google is the BBC Writersroom contest.

There was a good show on Sundance called The Writers' Room that Jim Rash hosted where he talked to showrunners and writers about how they put their shows together. If you can track it down somewhere I'd recommend giving it a watch.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


raditts posted:

Same show, likely. That's what the one on NBC is called. I thought it had been cancelled already, I haven't seen commercials for it or that Telenovella show in weeks.

The season for both ended but Superstore at least got renewed.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
david sixfeetunderman is a dick to his cool gay black lover

no wonder he ends up being a serial killer and then also a lumberjack

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
also nate dying sucks

Sober
Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.

xcore posted:

The answer is always going to be "it depends". But a general overview would be, the showrunner has an idea of the stories they want to tell in the episode. The writers will all collaborate to flesh out the episode, decide on story beats and episode arcs, then the head writer for the episode will go off and write the episode. First draft will be complete and they will all meet up to tear the script apart. Rinse and repeat.

(this is all based off TV show podcasts I listen to. I have no actual experience)
This is pretty much what usually happens. There is some variation depending on how much a showrunner wants to steer the ship. They might just do some passes to keep dialogue and tone consistent where some might just straight up take your script and rewrite the whole drat thing. You still probably get credits for it or I think you hash out who gets credits for it and everything. Credits are weird. I forget which is which but "and" and "&" are two completely different things; one means a team wrote it and another means someone worked off another's draft. "Story by" probably means someone in the room fleshed out most of the episode but "teleplay by" means someone else wrote the actual script (those two are paired together). Usually it's just "written by" though, which assumes you pitched a story, the room was fine with it for the most part right up until shooting.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

It varies totally wildly depending on the showrunner

Aaron sorkin literally only used his room as google machines and living encyclopedias

Matt weiner had to personally approve quite literally every single aspect of every line of dialog in the script as period or era appropriate on top of being character appropriate, and would end up rewriting submitting scripts so heavily that if he found himself rewriting more than a third of your scripts he would automatically place his name on written by byline no matter what, no ifs ands or buts

Robert kirkman is infamous in the writers room where he's in open rebellion with the showrunner (which apparently is why they've gone through so many since amc apparently defaults to kirkman every time) and basically runs the room over the showrunner

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Aaron Sorkin actually disputes some of the writing credits that other people have on The West Wing. He got into a spat with Rick Cleveland with credit over the Christmas episode about homeless veterans.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
aaron "studio 60" sorkin

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Mu Zeta posted:

Aaron Sorkin actually disputes some of the writing credits that other people have on The West Wing. He got into a spat with Rick Cleveland with credit over the Christmas episode about homeless veterans.
In Excelsis Deo and you'd do well to remember it!

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Mu Zeta posted:

Aaron Sorkin actually disputes some of the writing credits that other people have on The West Wing. He got into a spat with Rick Cleveland with credit over the Christmas episode about homeless veterans.

Aaron sor kin be a pain!

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Sober posted:

Usually it's just "written by" though, which assumes you pitched a story, the room was fine with it for the most part right up until shooting.

I read that in completely the wrong tone for my first pass. "Everything in the writers' room was fine until the shooting started."

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

Toxxupation posted:

Robert kirkman is infamous in the writers room where he's in open rebellion with the showrunner (which apparently is why they've gone through so many since amc apparently defaults to kirkman every time) and basically runs the room over the showrunner
This explains so much

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
Tonight's episode of Not Safe with Nikki Glazer had Kyle Kinane and Kristen Schaal. It was filthy and hilarious and I had to rewind to hear lines over my own laughter. Track that down.

"I'm worried the teens growing up with porn on their phones all the time are going to develop a fetish for men without faces."

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

END ME SCOOB posted:

Tonight's episode of Not Safe with Nikki Glazer had Kyle Kinane and Kristen Schaal. It was filthy and hilarious and I had to rewind to hear lines over my own laughter. Track that down.

"I'm worried the teens growing up with porn on their phones all the time are going to develop a fetish for men without faces."

Not Safe is one of the best new shows on TV in general. That whole thing where they feed the lines to porn stars through an earpiece while they're loving is something that everyone should view.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
Holy poo poo Psyche, thanks for springing this horribly transphobic episode on me out of nowhere.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

Wheat Loaf posted:

How do writers' rooms work in TV dramas that have them? How are they organised? Do individual writers pitch stories which everyone works on. Do they all get together to thrash out what they want to do, then assign writers to particular episodes and send them off to write them? What's the process, generally? I've tried looking it up, but all I get on Google is the BBC Writersroom contest.

As others have said, it varies wildly depending on the show. You might want to check out 6 Days to Air, which is a behind the scenes documentary about how an episode of South Park gets made, with a large focus on the writer's room.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

X-O posted:

There was a good show on Sundance called The Writers' Room that Jim Rash hosted where he talked to showrunners and writers about how they put their shows together. If you can track it down somewhere I'd recommend giving it a watch.

Seconded. It was pretty good and informative.

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Nov 19, 2011

First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.

thrakkorzog posted:

As others have said, it varies wildly depending on the show. You might want to check out 6 Days to Air, which is a behind the scenes documentary about how an episode of South Park gets made, with a large focus on the writer's room.
Isn't South Park on the very very very extreme? Like the dudes literally put the episode together the day it's supposed to air? Sounds interesting either way.

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