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SweetJahasus
Dec 23, 2005

Dragon Slayer
Samurai Warrior
Escape Artist
Viking
Chong-Ra Master

BE THE WIZARD
Cool, thanks for the help.

Someone above mentioned multiplayer. What's the story there? Since I was already above the level threshold for it when I got my account back I got no real explanation of it in-game and even then the tutorials are pretty lack luster. From looking up some of the dungeons in padx, it looks like I could get some very useful things, but they obviously are much too hard for me solo. How's it work? Is it all done asynch and do we each bring a full team to the mix? If anyone has a place I can read up on it or wants to drag my stupid idiot face through some of them I'd be interested.

So much has changed since I quit holy crap :v:

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silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




MP is pretty simple.

If you're playing with someone, you both bring a team, and switch off, so you take a turn with your team + his leader, then he takes a turn with his team + your leader, and the board sticks so whatever the board looks like after you're done, he has to work with.

Skill timers only advance when the card is visible though so that's a bit tougher. You add total HP iirc.

If you do it in single player mode, it's identical to the rest of pad except there's a whole lot of cool dungeons always available. Like Zaerog infinity, so I max skilled two of them when mp dungeons were half cost during a good skillup event. :3:

silvergoose fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Mar 29, 2016

SweetJahasus
Dec 23, 2005

Dragon Slayer
Samurai Warrior
Escape Artist
Viking
Chong-Ra Master

BE THE WIZARD
Cool deal - is there any place where SA folks organize for this or is it just where you have to know someone you can continually organize rooms with?

Oh, also - I have this "present" that I can give, does anyone else have one to give so we can trade off and get 2 REM rolls a piece? Also, should this be done during a GF or is it on a special REM machine so it won't matter?

Edit: VVV Oh well that's lovely - already have all of those VVV

SweetJahasus fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Mar 29, 2016

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT
It's a special REM that only spits out starter dragons or noel dragons.

For easy coop arrangements, head to synirc and join #pad.

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009

SweetJahasus posted:

Edit: VVV Oh well that's lovely - already have all of those VVV

Noel dragons aren't really for 'having,' they give 3m XP on-color. A "Great" and you've max leveled a card.

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib
If anyone could give me team advice for clearing grimoires legend, I'd really appreciate it. I've struggled through it 3 or so times today with a stone, but still haven't gotten the drop I need for a shiva

https://www.padherder.com/user/belenar

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
For those doing C10 with A. Pandora, what is the best number of connected dark orbs to not break 300k? I'm not really worried about one shotting the two health bags, but a damage gate on a 7x6 board worries me.

Plorkyeran
Mar 22, 2007

To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed
She gives you infinite hearts and doesn't even one-shot you under 30%, so it really doesn't matter. I just pronged her down to the danger zone and then did a non-row match of like 8 orbs for the kill.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Kung Food posted:

For those doing C10 with A. Pandora, what is the best number of connected dark orbs to not break 300k? I'm not really worried about one shotting the two health bags, but a damage gate on a 7x6 board worries me.

Yeah it's really hard to die against her. Just died 5-6 matches I think.

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


maou shoujo posted:

No. It took a long time for NA to get FF1, about 6 months I think. Maybe more. Presumably FF2 won't take as long, but there has been no word yet.

I don't think it's worth using piis on Yuna, even for convenience. The maxed dupe method would be even more grossly inefficient. Her skillups are not too hard to farm. On 2x drop rate you have a 50% chance of getting her drop afaik. She does not drop from the boss so I think you can run lower difficulties if you do not care about rank exp. You should note that the return of the collab shuffled who drops what -- Yuna's skillup drops from Cloud of Darkness in the first dungeon.

Fair enough. I'll evo and level the spare Yunas in the meantime. When we get the dungeons, I'll have a go at max skilling her. If she's still not max skilled by the time the dungeon goes away then I might feed off the extras for a skill up or two. I didn't try too hard to skill her up last time but I think there was something else that could drop, either on that floor or instead of the weapon and I was getting really unlucky. The mats to evo and ult evo her aren't hard or anything.

The Jumpoff
May 4, 2011
Your dad's in the Russian Mafia, that's the jumpoff!

big black turnout posted:

If anyone could give me team advice for clearing grimoires legend, I'd really appreciate it. I've struggled through it 3 or so times today with a stone, but still haven't gotten the drop I need for a shiva

https://www.padherder.com/user/belenar

What team are you attempting it with now? Because looking at your box (assuming everything is correct and totally updated), you have a decent Krishna team but it needs levels, awakenings, and a couple skill ups.

For Krishna:

mini-chiyome/RG Cao Cao/Tsubaki/Mamiya gives you a team that's 100% SBR and should be able to keep Krishna fed with Orbs (plus gives you 7 Orb Enhances). Gadius is an option if you want a full-board change.

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

The Jumpoff posted:

What team are you attempting it with now? Because looking at your box (assuming everything is correct and totally updated), you have a decent Krishna team but it needs levels, awakenings, and a couple skill ups.

For Krishna:

mini-chiyome/RG Cao Cao/Tsubaki/Mamiya gives you a team that's 100% SBR and should be able to keep Krishna fed with Orbs (plus gives you 7 Orb Enhances). Gadius is an option if you want a full-board change.

Thanks for the tips. Yeah, it's up to date as of a day or two ago, so no really drastic differences

I'm running a ronia team that can take it by a loving hair if everything lines up juuuuust right. It's the same as the ronia team on my pad herder except sleeping beauty subbed in for high dark ninja

... I'm bad at team building

The Jumpoff
May 4, 2011
Your dad's in the Russian Mafia, that's the jumpoff!

big black turnout posted:

Thanks for the tips. Yeah, it's up to date as of a day or two ago, so no really drastic differences

I'm running a ronia team that can take it by a loving hair if everything lines up juuuuust right. It's the same as the ronia team on my pad herder except sleeping beauty subbed in for high dark ninja

... I'm bad at team building

Wait your box is listing a Theurgia and Phoenix for Shiva. Just get the mats for evo'ing Phoenix and Theurgia, de-evo one of your Shiva's, and then make Awoken Shiva and go on to murder 99% of the middle level descends.

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

The Jumpoff posted:

Wait your box is listing a Theurgia and Phoenix for Shiva. Just get the mats for evo'ing Phoenix and Theurgia, de-evo one of your Shiva's, and then make Awoken Shiva and go on to murder 99% of the middle level descends.

I just got theurgia to drop like twenty minutes ago :D

Slappy Pappy
Oct 15, 2003

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The Jumpoff posted:

What team are you attempting it with now? Because looking at your box (assuming everything is correct and totally updated), you have a decent Krishna team but it needs levels, awakenings, and a couple skill ups.

For Krishna:

mini-chiyome/RG Cao Cao/Tsubaki/Mamiya gives you a team that's 100% SBR and should be able to keep Krishna fed with Orbs (plus gives you 7 Orb Enhances). Gadius is an option if you want a full-board change.

As someone who uses Krishna as my main (kill me now), my advice is to friend up as many Shiva Dragons as you can. It's a much better friend choice for Krishna than other Krishnas.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Topic of friends, are there any Awoken Thor users here after more Saria friends? I have two people in my friend list who use him, which is not enough to regularly take advantage of the guy, especially considering our rank differences. My Saria isn't maxed yet; she's only level 74 (meaning that she's almost halfway to 99 because the EXP curve is insane), but is fully-awakened, so she should still be useful to people I think.

My ID is 359,601,444 and here's my PADherder if anyone would like to help.

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Mar 30, 2016

Valicious
Aug 16, 2010
I just got a Nexus 5X running the latest version of Android, but PADListener is now saying ir won't work with my version of Android. What do?

I realized I need to farm Gold Bowl Dragon like gently caress for Genie skillups before coin rotation. Given that it's 1.5x drops, should I be running Master or Legendary? (Mugcorn doesn't evolve, just a regular appearance rate monster on floors)

aherdofpenguins
Mar 18, 2006

Zo posted:

Pad Twitter announced two new gfes, ones alright sub, other's a strong but not crazy leader. She also announced a new MP monster:


Judging from her name, it looks like she'll be one of FOUR new mp monsters. There are a series of four flowers in Chinese lore called the four "gentlemen". She's 蘭, or the orchid. After that there's going to be bamboo, plum, and chrysanthemum. So I wouldn't spend any MP until you see how powerful her three sisters are.

Orchid represents spring, so if we don't see the next monster after the next rotation then it's possible we have to wait until summer for bamboo to come.

aherdofpenguins fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Mar 30, 2016

Valicious
Aug 16, 2010
Am I doing this math right for calculating damage with a single prong on my Blodon/Orochi/Scheat/Nut/Umasachi&Yamasachi/Blodin team?
PADHerder says the team will have 46,695 attack after multipliers, x1.25 for the extra orb, x(1.5*19) for the prong awakenings.

46,695*1.25*(1.5*19)=1,663,509
After the Blodin buff comes to NA (1.25x when matching a prong)
46,695*1.25*(1.5*19)*(1.25*2)=4,158,773

I know prongs are monster-specific, but that should give good idea right?

Jolyne Cujoh
Dec 7, 2012

It's not like I've got no worries...
But I'll be fine.

Spamtron7000 posted:

As someone who uses Krishna as my main (kill me now), my advice is to friend up as many Shiva Dragons as you can. It's a much better friend choice for Krishna than other Krishnas.

as someone who also runs krishna, lol, no, the only thing that makes Krishna usable is the constant skyfall buff from having two of him. Without it you're going to get orb starved unless you're running 2 5 turn changers and some quick haste.

Valicious posted:

Am I doing this math right for calculating damage with a single prong on my Blodon/Orochi/Scheat/Nut/Umasachi&Yamasachi/Blodin team?
PADHerder says the team will have 46,695 attack after multipliers, x1.25 for the extra orb, x(1.5*19) for the prong awakenings.

46,695*1.25*(1.5*19)=1,663,509
After the Blodin buff comes to NA (1.25x when matching a prong)
46,695*1.25*(1.5*19)*(1.25*2)=4,158,773

I know prongs are monster-specific, but that should give good idea right?

that math is way loving wrong (and also the Blodin buff is already here). For one thing, the Blodin buff increases your damage by 1.25^2 (1.5625), not 1.25*2 (2.5). Second, that is not at all how prongs work. That team averages out to 3 prongs per monster (or something like that), which means that your attack will be multiplied by about 1.5^3, or 3.375. Your damage after a single prong match will therefore come out to be 46695*1.5625*1.25*3.375=307804. You should also never team with another Blodin, as that leaves you with a tone of HP and no RCV to get it back once you get hit. Instead, team with awoken I&I, and also probably run rows instead of prongs because rows spike harder, period.

Valicious
Aug 16, 2010

Jolyne Cujoh posted:

as someone who also runs krishna, lol, no, the only thing that makes Krishna usable is the constant skyfall buff from having two of him. Without it you're going to get orb starved unless you're running 2 5 turn changers and some quick haste.


that math is way loving wrong (and also the Blodin buff is already here). For one thing, the Blodin buff increases your damage by 1.25^2 (1.5625), not 1.25*2 (2.5). Second, that is not at all how prongs work. That team averages out to 3 prongs per monster (or something like that), which means that your attack will be multiplied by about 1.5^3, or 3.375. Your damage after a single prong match will therefore come out to be 46695*1.5625*1.25*3.375=307804. You should also never team with another Blodin, as that leaves you with a tone of HP and no RCV to get it back once you get hit. Instead, team with awoken I&I, and also probably run rows instead of prongs because rows spike harder, period.

I thought my math was off. I'd go rows if I could, but I don't have the subs for a row team.

Jolyne Cujoh
Dec 7, 2012

It's not like I've got no worries...
But I'll be fine.
Blodin/Andro/Snow White/Scheat/Sadalmelk/I&I has 11 rows, bind clear, a good amount of orb change and the Blodin>I&I spike, plus it can use prongs to clear trash between Blodin, Scheat and I&I.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


First ever challenge 10 down with Ryune :toot:

big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

Valicious posted:

I just got a Nexus 5X running the latest version of Android, but PADListener is now saying ir won't work with my version of Android. What do?

I realized I need to farm Gold Bowl Dragon like gently caress for Genie skillups before coin rotation. Given that it's 1.5x drops, should I be running Master or Legendary? (Mugcorn doesn't evolve, just a regular appearance rate monster on floors)

I'm also on a nexus 5x and I had to do a combination of https://m.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/comments/476fev/psapadlistener_update_for_android_m_enables_box/d0apnrp  and https://m.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/comments/476fev/psapadlistener_update_for_android_m_enables_box/d0anmut

It's a little clunky, but still way easier than keeping it up to date by hand

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.
Yesterday was nice. Max skilled Markab and also max skilled Saria.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




So what're some good starting subs for shiva? Already have a couple of big flamies and a goblin and working on an ogre...obviously echidna when I can get one, and phoenix knight likewise.

Anything else easily farmable early? I got a lucky red dragonfruit from the pal machine so I'm using that too.

Sadly my main doesn't have any good leaders that work with shiva, but the few shiva/shivadog goonfriends sure are letting me beat stuff! Just a couple mats away from evolving shiva, too. Probably worth doing the first ulti until I can get the mats for demolishing or awoken?

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
Just a heads up, Super Star Vault returns tonight. Check PDX for times.

Also, upcoming Godfest info:

Day 1 (3/31) - Chinese + Samurai, 1x Odins, 1x Ilm/Zuoh, 1x JP Callers
Day 2 (4/1) - Mechanical Star 1 + 2, 1x Sonias, 1x Dragonbounds, 1x Metatrons

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Oh hey, given that; which day is better for a baby shiva account? My gut says day 1, antares and deneb seem fine but not amazing.

silvergoose fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Mar 30, 2016

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

DaveWoo posted:

Just a heads up, Super Star Vault returns tonight. Check PDX for times.

Also, upcoming Godfest info:

Day 1 (3/31) - Chinese + Samurai, 1x Odins, 1x Ilm/Zuoh, 1x JP Callers
Day 2 (4/1) - Mechanical Star 1 + 2, 1x Sonias, 1x Dragonbounds, 1x Metatrons

I have zero mechanical star gods so it'll be a couple of courtesy rolls (right now my budget is 3-4 rolls) on the second day. Pretty meh otherwise.


silvergoose posted:

Oh hey, given that; which day is better for a baby shiva account?

None are particularly good. I would stockpile stones instead. Day 1 is better, if you really wanna roll.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




trucutru posted:

I have zero mechanical star gods so it'll be a couple of courtesy rolls (right now my budget is 3-4 rolls) on the second day. Pretty meh otherwise.


None are particularly good. I would stockpile stones instead. Day 1 is better, if you really wanna roll.

I mean. I have nothing right now, just shiva, so I really wanna roll, but I guess I can long-haul it and just spend stones on box space instead. Need more shivafriends. And more mystic masks ffff.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


DaveWoo posted:

Just a heads up, Super Star Vault returns tonight. Check PDX for times.

1AM EST :laffo:

gently caress you, GungHo.

Xenochrist
Sep 11, 2006


Kuros posted:

Yesterday was nice. Max skilled Markab and also max skilled Saria.

Congrats. I'm just sittin here goin 0/12 on amon skill-ups. Haven't fed to markab yet but because I don't use him I'm sure I'll max skill easy.

3x times 0 is still 0, etc. etc.

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

DaveWoo posted:

Just a heads up, Super Star Vault returns tonight. Check PDX for times.

Also, upcoming Godfest info:

Day 1 (3/31) - Chinese + Samurai, 1x Odins, 1x Ilm/Zuoh, 1x JP Callers
Day 2 (4/1) - Mechanical Star 1 + 2, 1x Sonias, 1x Dragonbounds, 1x Metatrons

I'll probably give it a single pull each day for the hell of it.

Xenochrist posted:

Congrats. I'm just sittin here goin 0/12 on amon skill-ups. Haven't fed to markab yet but because I don't use him I'm sure I'll max skill easy.

3x times 0 is still 0, etc. etc.

I think Markab's skill would be decent for SI once we get 9.0.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe

silvergoose posted:

I mean. I have nothing right now, just shiva, so I really wanna roll, but I guess I can long-haul it and just spend stones on box space instead. Need more shivafriends. And more mystic masks ffff.

I'd say Day 1 is worth spending a few rolls on - both Leilan (the Red Chinese god) and Sanada (the Red Samurai) are very solid subs for a mono-Red team, and any of the other Chinese girls make solid leaders in their own right. Also, there's a Gala of Flame active, which slightly increases your odds of getting Red cards in general.

As for farmable Shiva subs, in addition to Echidna and Phoenix Knight, there's also Titan. The best place to farm up all three right now is the Multiplayer dungeons; if you need a partner for those, send me a PM and I might be able to help you out.

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


Roland Jones posted:

Topic of friends, are there any Awoken Thor users here after more Saria friends? I have two people in my friend list who use him, which is not enough to regularly take advantage of the guy, especially considering our rank differences. My Saria isn't maxed yet; she's only level 74 (meaning that she's almost halfway to 99 because the EXP curve is insane), but is fully-awakened, so she should still be useful to people I think.

My ID is 359,601,444 and here's my PADherder if anyone would like to help.

Am I one of those rear end in a top hat Thors that doesn't refresh enough? 323,392,257

I leave up Saria on my main and I refresh more often. 304,382,267 (I just loaded up a challenge dungeon or I'd add you first.)

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

I've got 2 Gadius and 2 Uriel + almost every other worthwhile red card there is, so that new MP monster Is probably what I will be going for. I'll wait to see what the other 3 are but I'm at 150k MP right now so I should be ready by the time she hits here.

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

silvergoose posted:

I mean. I have nothing right now, just shiva, so I really wanna roll, but I guess I can long-haul it and just spend stones on box space instead. Need more shivafriends. And more mystic masks ffff.

You can shoot me an invite I've got a Hyper Shiva up all the time. He's getting replaced with my Shivadra once i finish plussing him but that will be awhile. 367,253,340

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




DaveWoo posted:

I'd say Day 1 is worth spending a few rolls on - both Leilan (the Red Chinese god) and Sanada (the Red Samurai) are very solid subs for a mono-Red team, and any of the other Chinese girls make solid leaders in their own right. Also, there's a Gala of Flame active, which slightly increases your odds of getting Red cards in general.

As for farmable Shiva subs, in addition to Echidna and Phoenix Knight, there's also Titan. The best place to farm up all three right now is the Multiplayer dungeons; if you need a partner for those, send me a PM and I might be able to help you out.

Think I could do it just using something from my main account? Which dungeons have the best drop rates for those?

I could do some silly all-gods led by DIza, or I could do a monored with Goemon?

Got my mystic masks, just need a few dublits and the one regular mythlit tomorrow and I might be able to get him to karmic, woo!

Buckwheat Sings
Feb 9, 2005
Man I know it's silly but it's pretty rough trying to find a replacement for my stupid King Ruby Dragon with my Pandora crew. I finally have enough points to fill in with something solid but can't seem to get a good dark heart changer. I think vampire's a good one right? Doing normal dungeon nonstop sucks for drops and Starlight Sanctuary doesn't drop anything. I'm assuming Queen of the Gods never ever drops Hera since she's always cash right?

I'm basically in a weird place with a squad that's not quite 100% but somehow I got to the King of the Gods wall. I can easily get to Zeus but I blow through all my skills getting there.


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DaveWoo posted:

Also, upcoming Godfest info:

Day 1 (3/31) - Chinese + Samurai, 1x Odins, 1x Ilm/Zuoh, 1x JP Callers

I'm guessing this would do it. Well I have about 30 stones so maybe I miiight get lucky?

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DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe

silvergoose posted:

Think I could do it just using something from my main account? Which dungeons have the best drop rates for those?

I could do some silly all-gods led by DIza, or I could do a monored with Goemon?

Got my mystic masks, just need a few dublits and the one regular mythlit tomorrow and I might be able to get him to karmic, woo!

Basically, any Alt dungeon that has the mon as a boss or sub-boss has a decent chance of dropping it. (You'd have to check PDX for the specific dungeons, I don't remember off the top of my head.)

Diza might be able to do it, depending on your team; Goemon's a bit risky, since you can get clobbered on the early floors. Basically, you need a team that can generate consistent offense without getting hit, or a team that has enough HP/RCV to take hits of 20K or more.

Buckwheat Sings posted:

Man I know it's silly but it's pretty rough trying to find a replacement for my stupid King Ruby Dragon with my Pandora crew. I finally have enough points to fill in with something solid but can't seem to get a good dark heart changer. I think vampire's a good one right? Doing normal dungeon nonstop sucks for drops and Starlight Sanctuary doesn't drop anything. I'm assuming Queen of the Gods never ever drops Hera since she's always cash right?

I'm basically in a weird place with a squad that's not quite 100% but somehow I got to the King of the Gods wall. I can easily get the Zeus but I blow through all my skills getting there.

edit::

I'm guessing this would do it. Well I have about 30 stones so maybe I miiight get lucky?

Queen of the Gods does not drop Hera, correct. For Vampire, the best place to farm him right now is the Alt Multiplayer dungeon; let me know if you need a hand running it.

Oh, and the "1x Ilm/Zuoh" thing I wrote there actually means that they'll be showing up at a lower rate than they normally would during a Godfest. (The normal rate is 3x.)

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