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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
What happened to the emails of people with periods in their names?

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computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
e: should've read the last page

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Dr. Quarex posted:


All because somebody at Google apparently arbitrarily decided that periods should be ignored. And I am still not entirely sure I know why.

This is because Google was wrong. the RFC for the acceptable ways to format an email address speciifcally says to ignore periods within an address, and treat them as the same address.

AFAIR, Google added suppoer for + addressing at the same time.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I use the + a lot in hopes of figuring out where spam comes from. it always goes to my actual address. So they either strip it out or something else gives out my email.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Cojawfee posted:

I use the + a lot in hopes of figuring out where spam comes from. it always goes to my actual address. So they either strip it out or something else gives out my email.

Or the people who buy/snipe the email addresses strip out the "+" so you don't know where it comes from.

old bean factory
Nov 18, 2006

Will ya close the fucking doors?!

Cojawfee posted:

What happened to the emails of people with periods in their names?

I can tell you that some German dude's emails get sent to me at random because of my gmail address.

That's my Gmail story.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe
Same, except a black guy in North Carolina.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
For a while I kept getting plumbing invoices for some guy in Seattle. Freaked me out because it was cold out and my apartment complex was all "Let your faucets drip to prevent the pipes from freezing." I was driving somewhere and got an email with an invoice from a plumber and my paranoia got the best of me and assumed that I didn't run my faucets good enough and the building was destroyed with water damage and they sent me an invoice already.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

stubblyhead posted:

This game was pretty awesome, not that I ever made too much progress with it.
Same. I actually went looking for a screenshot of Uncle Smoke since that was literally the only thing I remembered about the entire game, but then I saw those dudes and I was like OH MY GOD THE ALIEN AUCTION THING I WAS 5 I HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON

EoRaptor posted:

This is because Google was wrong. the RFC for the acceptable ways to format an email address speciifcally says to ignore periods within an address, and treat them as the same address.

AFAIR, Google added suppoer for + addressing at the same time.
That makes perfect sense. And why they would try to casually pretend now that it never happened.

My favorite side effect of this was that I had to decide what to do with the Facebook page of the dude with my Firstname.Lastname since he could no longer access it. I had literally no way of contacting him and when I asked on his page if one of his friends could talk to him for me, they all defriended me. So I was like "O.K., fine" and just took it over.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



I had some lady trying to order a football team-branded coffee mug from Dick's Sporting Goods and she kept putting in my gmail address over and over... I don't know if she bought the same mug 4 times or just tried to re-send the confirmation that many times. Eventually she gave up.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

Dr. Quarex posted:

Same. I actually went looking for a screenshot of Uncle Smoke since that was literally the only thing I remembered about the entire game, but then I saw those dudes and I was like OH MY GOD THE ALIEN AUCTION THING I WAS 5 I HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON

Remember the book that came with? I did a book report on it in second grade.

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

Dr. Quarex posted:

Though as far as I can tell you can no longer find any proof that this is the case, GMail originally did differentiate e-mail addresses like Your.Name and YourName, even though now it just casually says "any number of periods in an e-mail address will reach the same person, obviously!"

They always ignored .s in names - I got my gmail account when it was still invite only and this was true then. The reason you got a sudden uptick in email intended to go to idiots is because that's when the service opened up enough that all the idiots got a gmail account.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

mng posted:

I can tell you that some German dude's emails get sent to me at random because of my gmail address.

That's my Gmail story.

Some woman with kids uses my email for everything, even after I internet detectived and called her at work telling her to stop, so whenever I get toys r us rewards in her name I go spend them on legos.

Such is life.

reagan
Apr 29, 2008

by Lowtax
I'm a member of the same-name Gmail club as well. It's been going on since 2011. I have to assume that the guy gets most of his e-mail just fine, otherwise why would he keep using my address?

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Yeah I mean, Ookiimarukochan, I understand what you are saying, but I got an acknowledgement from support at one point that people "may" have been able to inadvertently create separate accounts with dots in them, but they claimed they never should have been able to receive e-mail separately from my account.

Well, maybe that was true, but they sure gave out that address a lot before realizing nothing was working. Kind of like Reagan, I always wondered what in the world was going on on the other end, considering the number of accounts people have opened in dot variations of my e-mail address that I have had to shut down or otherwise reclaim.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

reagan posted:

I'm a member of the same-name Gmail club as well. It's been going on since 2011. I have to assume that the guy gets most of his e-mail just fine, otherwise why would he keep using my address?

Yeah I mean if I didn't get the reminder email from the red cross about my appointment to donate blood, I wouldn't think much of it. But didn't he wonder why he never got that morbidly obese black albino chick's beaver shots?

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
The NRA and a car dealership keep emailing me thinking I'm my dead dad

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



stubblyhead posted:

morbidly obese black albino chick's beaver shots?

Some guys get all the luck...

ShiroTheSniper
Mar 19, 2009

I see dead arrows.
Lipstick Apathy
Microsoft's Allegiance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegiance_(video_game)



drat that was fun. I know it still runs today but dam that I loved the vanilla experience.

I used to spawn a slow rear end bomber at the beginning and moving thought sectors using the most indirect route and fartest away from the wrap gates to not be detected by scouts and warping at the ennemy base sector and blowing the HQ up.

Glorious 2K space MMO hero right here boys!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


ShiroTheSniper posted:

Microsoft's Allegiance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegiance_(video_game)



drat that was fun. I know it still runs today but dam that I loved the vanilla experience.

I used to spawn a slow rear end bomber at the beginning and moving thought sectors using the most indirect route and fartest away from the wrap gates to not be detected by scouts and warping at the ennemy base sector and blowing the HQ up.

Glorious 2K space MMO hero right here boys!

Thankyou!

I remember when it came out my internet was poo poo and so was my computer. Might have to give it a go again.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

CaptainSarcastic posted:

Faxes mostly still exist due to privacy laws and confidentiality. Unlike email or other digital methods, there isn't really a way to intercept or hijack faxes and thus they are used for private communication of documents.

There is no accountiblity with a fax. Sure, A fax machine says it received your transmission, but what fax machine? Did you dial the right number? Did the receiving fax have paper in it? Toner? Who knows?

Fax should die, the sooner the better

Bovril Delight posted:

Rightfax is a god send, no more replacing toner!

My dad has a sweet rear end old phone/fax combo that uses the heat transfer paper rolls. It's absolutely ancient, weighs a ton and I'm sure the company hasn't been around for 20 years. He keeps it because he has calling card minutes programmed into it and has lost the cards. :haw:

Rightfax can also eat my rear end. Biggest mistake I ever made in my career was making that thing work over VoIP. I wish I could travel back in time and kick my self in the balls for that one.


Fabulousity posted:


Then V.92 showed up to put an end to the whole stupid thing for half a second before being vaporized by DSL in major markets which was then clobbered by local and regional cable companies. The best part? While cable providers in all major American metropolitan markets have consolidated into three major national brands, like a trio of lovely T-1000s no one asked for, the broadband speeds in said markets are still pathetic despite hilariously high prices.



Almost. X2 and Flex were pretty much consolidated in to V.90, and most (but not all) Flex and X2 modems were upgradable to it. V.90 was fairly popular all the way up until the point you discribed. V.92 was very late to the dial up game. It added slightly better compression for HTML content and better support for call waiting. But like you said, by then, most people didn't care because they were switching to broadband or already had V.90 which V.92 wasn't a big improvment on.



woodch posted:

Hah! No, but our office basement is jam packed with old-rear end telco equipment that includes a bunch of decommissioned ISDN modems.

Buddy of mine actually had an ISDN connection in his apartment in, like... 2001-ish? I remember scrolling through pic threads here and marveling at HOW FAST EVERYTHING LOADED! Impressive to think that just 15 years ago, 128kbps seemed like lightning speed, and now internet speeds of more than 100x that are considered "entry-level tier" internet speed.

:corsair: I'm tellin' ya. We had it tough back then.

Fabulousity posted:

ISDN is missing in action, but it did have a fun second or two in the sun back there somewhere.

ISDN was never cost effective for home users, but I had it at my house when I was teenager. We couldn't get cable or DSL out there, so I was paying AT&T $100 a month for 200 channel hours of ISDN, and then $40 a month for my ISP. This is what happens when you are a massive nerd with a job and disposible income in the mid to late 90's.

ISDN is still kind of used today. PRI voice circuits use ISDN signalling. They are just 23 B channels and 1 D instead of 2 B and 1 D. I doubt there are many orders for new ISDN service today, but I am sure something out there stil uses it.


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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Norway went kind of all-in for ISDN for a few years in the 90s, so it wasn't a bad alternative up to DSL caught on - a couple of dollars extra per month, same minute price as modem dial-up, 64kbit instead of 56kbit, and you could use the phone while connected. (You could also bundle both B-channels for blazing 128kbit action and double the price).

Computer viking has a new favorite as of 23:27 on Mar 31, 2016

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
I had ISDN when I lived in Sweden in around 2000 and it had per minute usage charges for use 7am to 7pm weekdays, then half price for other times. It was ridiculously expensive. Replaced it with DSL and it was so much faster for about a tenth of the cost of ISDN.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Computer viking posted:

Norway went kind of all-in for ISDN for a few years in the 90s, so it wasn't a bad alternative up to DSL caught on - a couple of dollars extra per month, same minute price as modem dial-up, 64kbit instead of 56kbit, and you could use the phone while connected. (You could also bundle both B-channels for blazing 128kbit action and double the price).

I guess a computer viking would know a lot about Internet service in Norway.

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

Unctuous Cretin posted:

I also managed to get mysurname@gmail.com. Unfortunately, my name translates to "cheap" in a language of a people that values a good bargain. So for a while I was getting offers from cheap foreign mp3 sites and other shady business ventures to buy my email.

I also get a lot of emails mistakenly sent for people using initial/firstname.mysurname.

I am too proud of my first wave Gmail to give it up.

Your last name is קַמצָן?

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Mak0rz posted:

I guess a computer viking would know a lot about Internet service in Norway.
That was kind of the idea back when I had to pick a name, yeah.

GutBomb posted:

I had ISDN when I lived in Sweden in around 2000 and it had per minute usage charges for use 7am to 7pm weekdays, then half price for other times. It was ridiculously expensive. Replaced it with DSL and it was so much faster for about a tenth of the cost of ISDN.
Anything with per-minute costs will be horrible compared to an always-on service - we jumped to ADSL as soon as possible, of course. Still, it seemed worth the money when the alternative was modem/phone line.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I worked at a small ISP (500 users) that offered dual channel ISDN. The only person that ordered it was some CEO of a local manufacturing company. I almost had it installed at my house but then cable modems came along and I happened to live in the part of town where they were beta testing. I'm guessing that was '98 or '99.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Does anyone remember audiogalaxy? It was an mp3 search engine that also had a file-sharing component. Basically you would search on the website and tag what songs you wanted from which users, then it would send that info to your audiogalaxy client (which I used on a Linux shell account to download mp3s quickly during the day to the shell account and then would log on to and download them from the shell at night on the aforementioned half priced ISDN)

The cool thing was you could find absolutely anything on audiogalaxy, no matter how obscure. If someone had ever shared a file on there it would remain in their search results forever. Then whenever they reconnect to the service anyone that had queued downloads of their shared stuff would start downloading. Sometimes you'd have to wait a few days but there was never anything I wasn't able to find.

GutBomb has a new favorite as of 03:52 on Apr 1, 2016

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

GutBomb posted:

Does anyone remember audiogalaxy? It was an mp3 search engine that also had a file-sharing component. Basically you would search on the website and tag what songs you wanted from which users, then it would send that info to your audiogalaxy client (which I used on a Linux shell account to download mp3s quickly during the day to the shell account and then would log on to and download them from the shell at night on the aforementioned half priced ISDN)

The cool thing was you could find absolutely anything on audiogalaxy, no matter how obscure. If someone had every shared a file on there it would remain in their search results forever. Then whenever they reconnect to the service anyone that had queued downloads of their shared stuff would start downloading. Sometimes you'd have to wait a few days but there was never anything I wasn't able to find.

I used the poo poo out of audiogalaxy, but I don't remember it being that great

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Speaking of mp3s, remember when you could google "Index of:" followed by the name of the song you wanted, and more than likely you'd find somebody's music folder that included the desired song? IIRC Google got wise to that 5-ish years ago, maybe more.

GI_Clutch
Aug 22, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
Dinosaur Gum
Speaking of cable modems, back in 2001 my old roommates and I moved from an apartment near the University and an affluent neighborhood to a suburb a little farther out. They hadn't upgraded the cable network there yet, so we had to be downgraded to a hybrid cable modem. The downstream was all cable, but it had to utilize a landline for the upstream. Ping times were somewhere between dial-up and a regular cable modem. We also needed a set top box to switch between A and B channels to get access to all of the channels. Thankfully they upgrade everything after about six months.

Rambling Robot
Sep 13, 2011
Duggar Fan Club Superstar #1 LOL

Pham Nuwen posted:

Speaking of mp3s, remember when you could google "Index of:" followed by the name of the song you wanted, and more than likely you'd find somebody's music folder that included the desired song? IIRC Google got wise to that 5-ish years ago, maybe more.

It still works. I just tried looking for an album and found something uploaded on 29-Sep-2004.

DICTATOR OF FUNK
Nov 6, 2007

aaaaaw yeeeeeah

Rambling Robot posted:

It still works. I just tried looking for an album and found something uploaded on 29-Sep-2004.

Yeah. It tends to be more that phishers caught on to the trend and starting making faux-Apache directory listings caked with ads and fake links, so you generally end up with 99% bullshit when it's easier to just use the pirate bay or something

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


GutBomb posted:

Does anyone remember audiogalaxy? It was an mp3 search engine that also had a file-sharing component. Basically you would search on the website and tag what songs you wanted from which users, then it would send that info to your audiogalaxy client (which I used on a Linux shell account to download mp3s quickly during the day to the shell account and then would log on to and download them from the shell at night on the aforementioned half priced ISDN)

The cool thing was you could find absolutely anything on audiogalaxy, no matter how obscure. If someone had ever shared a file on there it would remain in their search results forever. Then whenever they reconnect to the service anyone that had queued downloads of their shared stuff would start downloading. Sometimes you'd have to wait a few days but there was never anything I wasn't able to find.

The audiogalaxy satellite client was cool. I used it extensively until one of my University Lecturers introduced the class to 'Soulseek' which was mind blowing to me. There wasn't much I couldn't find on there.

Fake edit: Holy crap it's still around! http://www.slsknet.org/news/node/680

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Pham Nuwen posted:

Speaking of mp3s, remember when you could google "Index of:" followed by the name of the song you wanted, and more than likely you'd find somebody's music folder that included the desired song? IIRC Google got wise to that 5-ish years ago, maybe more.
There was a site called g2p, I think anyway. Kind of a play on peer to peer, only it wad Google to peer. Anyway it helped you find mp3s.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
There's a reddit where people post the open directories they've found. I won't post the URL for this reddit dedicated to open directories since it is basically just :filez: but it- uhh- shouldn't be too hard to find.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Humphreys posted:

The audiogalaxy satellite client was cool. I used it extensively until one of my University Lecturers introduced the class to 'Soulseek' which was mind blowing to me. There wasn't much I couldn't find on there.

Fake edit: Holy crap it's still around! http://www.slsknet.org/news/node/680

Oh wow. I was using this in 2005 to download lots of obscure 80s metal albums from people in South America. I should try this again to see if it's still any good.

Stick Insect
Oct 24, 2010

My enemies are many.

My equals are none.

GutBomb posted:

Does anyone remember audiogalaxy?
I still had dialup but the client was installed at a friend's who had cable broadband.

I discovered some new band I liked, got in touch with them over audiogalaxy and they then used it to share some unreleased stuff with me.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Soulseek is still useful as balls to find really obscure stuff.

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WescottF1
Oct 21, 2000
Forums Veteran
I was a huge fan of WinMX back in its day. Found a ton of rare 80s hard rock/hair metal with it. If I remember correctly, one of the developers got mad and launched a bunch of huge DDOS attacks on it and rendered it useless.

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