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Does anybody have the SFV guide handy? The google doc I have bookmarked shows Necalli's s.HP and cr.HP as 9 frames of startup for each, just wondering if that's accurate. Trying to work out punishes for Alex moves and if the 9 frames is right then Dantarion's got a mistake or two in his alex data.
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dhamster posted:Does that "mod medium/hard survival to one round" trainer still work post-patch? I just tested it with Mika's alt and it still works. If you run into issues, let me know and I'll try to fix it. Hobojim posted:Does anybody have the SFV guide handy? The google doc I have bookmarked shows Necalli's s.HP and cr.HP as 9 frames of startup for each, just wondering if that's accurate. Trying to work out punishes for Alex moves and if the 9 frames is right then Dantarion's got a mistake or two in his alex data. Yup, Prima guide says it's 9f. croutonZA fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Mar 30, 2016 |
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Mar 30, 2016 22:49
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Hobojim posted:Does anybody have the SFV guide handy? The google doc I have bookmarked shows Necalli's s.HP and cr.HP as 9 frames of startup for each, just wondering if that's accurate. Trying to work out punishes for Alex moves and if the 9 frames is right then Dantarion's got a mistake or two in his alex data. Yep, both are 9 frames according to the guide. BTW the guide has added alex's moves but not combos or strategy yet.
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Mar 30, 2016 22:52
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Ixiggle posted:You forgot the broken netcode. Alex looks cool though. With the new rollback netcode, this is one of the best online systems in a fighting game to date.
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Mar 30, 2016 22:59
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Baal posted:Also Patty shows up and brings him an entire basket of sandwiches which he devours in five minutes, the man's a colossus At first I didn't notice that they disappeared when he was still there, so I kind of assumed the Shadaloo guys ate them
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Mar 30, 2016 22:59
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interrodactyl posted:With the new rollback netcode, this is one of the best online systems in a fighting game to date. Is this ironic? I'd prefer sf4 netcode, though of course it would be best if they just fixed the obvious problem with their rollback.
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Mar 30, 2016 23:14
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inthesto posted:Why am I having so much trouble doing Alex's s.lp x flash chop http://watissf.dantarion.com/sf5/boxdox3/#/stats/ALX/v1_2 Well, according to the frame data, LP Flash Chop has 13 frames of start-up. Standing LP is 4/3/7 and +4 on hit. That means you need to cancel on the very first active frame (literally as fast as possible) in order to have the 13 frames necessary to combo. On counter-hit, standing jab gets an extra 2 frames of hit-stun, there-by making it a little bit easier with a 3-frame window.
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Mar 30, 2016 23:15
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Booyah- posted:Is this ironic? I'd prefer sf4 netcode, though of course it would be best if they just fixed the obvious problem with their rollback. It's a former quote from the op which was quietly removed once it became clear that Kagemusha was a steaming pile of turd
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Effort post incoming! I got trounced by an Alex on ranked because I had no idea when to press buttons, so I worked out punishes for Necalli, maybe it'll help someone (looking at you, bhsman): None of his lights or mediums are punishable, except for his f.MP. Normals s.HP: -3, can punish with s.lp xx ex stomps but only from point blank. s.HK: -4, same as above but can do it from much farther out because of how much this moves Alex forward. Can fit two s.lp's in there before cancelling from most ranges, but maybe not worth it. cr.HP: -9 according to Dantarion, but unpunishable by Necalli's cr.HP or s.HP. Can punish with the standard s.mk, cr.mk xx light slashes though. cr.HK: -12? cr.MP xx light slashes from anything but max range, same with your own sweep. Can also use your CA on block if you have it. f.MP: -4, s.lp, s.lp xx ex stomps to punish. Specials Any qcf+P that isn't EX: -4, s.lp or c.lp xx EX stomps. EX qcf+P is safe on block, looks to be -1. Dantarion has it listed as -4, but it isn't. b, f+LK: -4, but pushes far enough away that Necalli's jabs won't hit, and that probably goes for most of the cast. b, f+MK or HK: -6 and -7 respectively, cr.mp xx light slashes works well. b, f+KK: -11, cr.HP xx medium slashes is a great punish for this. This works from full screen, so range doesn't matter. d, u+K (not ex): -5, can punish with s.MK bnb or cr.MP xx light slashes, but you have to press the button A LOT earlier than you think you do. Gonna need to practice this one. CA: - a shitton, can do cr.HP xx medium slashes or walk in and do a s.MK bnb, or do your own CA. That's all I could find. I need to play some sets against an Alex sometime to get used to it.
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Mar 30, 2016 23:18
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AnonSpore posted:It's a former quote from the op which was quietly removed once it became clear that Kagemusha was a steaming pile of turd ah good poo poo 
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Hobojim posted:Effort post incoming! This is great; thanks for this. VVV Does it? Seems unlikely considering his headbutt does 'only' 250 bhsman fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Mar 30, 2016 |
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Mar 30, 2016 23:31
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Does LP Flash Chop really have 450 stun? Holy living gently caress
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Mar 30, 2016 23:36
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Booyah- posted:Is this ironic? I'd prefer sf4 netcode, though of course it would be best if they just fixed the obvious problem with their rollback. SectumSempra posted:Source your quotes bebaloorpabopalo posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3765346&userid=13053
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Mar 30, 2016 23:39
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AnonSpore posted:It's a former quote from the op which was quietly removed once it became clear that Kagemusha was a steaming pile of turd I was trying to be positive. 
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Agoat posted:I was trying to be positive. Granted, around the 3rd beta there was some real praise for how smooth some games were, and what few games I've played online have generally been good. The issue is that the bad matches are real bad and there isn't enough consistency. bhsman fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Mar 30, 2016 |
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Mar 30, 2016 23:51
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I'd like to lightly choke every single PS4 player that's using WI-FI. Also, I'd like to shove a broomhandle up the anus of whomever coded the matchmaking settings. When I say "5 only" that means I don't want to fight someone in the Bahamas on a ps4, on wifi, with exactly 1 bar of connectivity.
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bhsman posted:Granted, around the 3rd beta there was some real praise for how smooth some games were, and what few games I've played online have generally been good. The issue is that the bad matches are real bad and there isn't enough consistency. Good matches are great. I can fight most people near Florida without issue. I just wish I could fight UK players.  A.o.D. posted:I'd like to lightly choke every single PS4 player
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Mar 31, 2016 00:01
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The patch changed the default connection preference from Any to 3-5. I've had bad luck with that, but 4-5 seems like a good balance between connection and time between matches.
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Mar 31, 2016 00:06
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I'm horrible at this game. The highest level of challenges I can beat is 7 for Ryu. The button combinations get too confusing.
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Mar 31, 2016 00:07
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Slight spoiler for Alex's story mode: I wonder if the implication is that Alex is the reason why the training stage in Capcom vs Tatsunoko is so hosed up 
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Mar 31, 2016 00:10
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complex finger puzzles ruin the soul of the game we need to fix the meta-game and prevent anti-fun toxic gameplay
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Mar 31, 2016 00:11
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Has anyone determined a basic and easy hit confirm for Alex yet? I really do not want to do s.mp s.lp flash chop because I'm lazy
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Mar 31, 2016 00:12
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are there enough zoners yet?
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Mar 31, 2016 00:13
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inthesto posted:Has anyone determined a basic and easy hit confirm for Alex yet? You're not going to get much easier than that.
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Mar 31, 2016 00:15
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Is there still an IRC goon chat room or anything to find matches? I'm getting tired of getting my face kicked in by randoms.
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Crayvex posted:Is there still an IRC goon chat room or anything to find matches? I'm getting tired of getting my face kicked in by randoms. There's a discord server linked from this thread where people matchmake.
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Mar 31, 2016 00:19
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Munsun posted:are there enough zoners yet? Yes, but I'm open to them adding more grapplers.
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Mar 31, 2016 00:20
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Booyah- posted:Update drops in like 10 min. Probably still no direct input support, but if you have a te 2 or s +, madcatz released a firmware update that will make it work with sfv. You actually can't if it's the chun li TE2, that's not supported as I found out!
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Mar 31, 2016 00:22
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So is it just me or does Alex's ex grab have grab invulnerability?
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Mar 31, 2016 00:25
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inthesto posted:Has anyone determined a basic and easy hit confirm for Alex yet? Here is a compilation of combo/setup vids so far; I'm sure a bunch of Twitch players will be streaming with him later. EDIT: Bafael will probably put out a BnB vid at some point, too.
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Gammatron 64 posted:There's a serious argument that can be made that SF5 is very plain and boring, but honestly, I think I prefer plain and boring over stupid frustrating bullshit. After 7 or however many years of playing SF4, I welcome Street Fighter "going back to its roots". Most players seem to just be glad this game isn't SF4. I don't really understand this argument. First because it implies a game has to be deliberately dubbed down in order to be plain/not full of bullshit but it goes a lot deeper than that why would you willingly play a mediocre game when lots of good games exist and have people that play them why would you willing play a mediocre game when you could play a bad one and get sick thrills from how stupid it is unless your answer is "I'm justin wong/gootecks/combofiend/other and capcom money trickling down into my maw is how I make my living" you gotta look deep into your psyche on this one and see if you're really making the best use of your time wasting.
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HoboWithAShotgun posted:I wasn't agreeing with that guy, guy. Sorry, I wasnt sure if you were serious. I dont know what's real anymore.
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darealkooky posted:unless your answer is "I'm justin wong/gootecks/combofiend/other and capcom money trickling down into my maw is how I make my living" you gotta look deep into your psyche on this one and see if you're really making the best use of your time wasting. Not for nothing, but is your argument literally "If you like this game, you're either fooling yourself or a shill"?
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I don't think you can really praise this games balance when A: it's only had like three months of total playtime and B: capcom constantly nerfs characters and anything that develops I suppose making every single character interchangable dogshit and devolving the game into a bunch of super linear "he's using thing X so I do thing Y to beat it, then I go into The Only Followup" moments is technically really balanced because you can pick anyone and do about as well, but that's not really an impressive feat of game design.
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bhsman posted:Not for nothing, but is your argument literally "If you like this game, you're either fooling yourself or a shill"? my argument is "why would you willingly play this game you keep saying you only think is meh and doesn't offer anything that doesn't exist in at least one other fighting game"
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i wish that the engine of this game was literally ST on fightcade, and in that case capcom removing some of, but not all, of the option selects would be okay someone fight me in ST
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Mar 31, 2016 00:32
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Why can't I buy colors from the drat survival mode?  edit: why don't they have premium costume colors for sale either?
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Mar 31, 2016 00:33
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The quality of a Street Fighter game is directly proportional to the quality of Ken's model/sprite.
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Mar 31, 2016 00:33
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darealkooky posted:my argument is "why would you willingly play this game you keep saying you only think is meh and doesn't offer anything that doesn't exist in at least one other fighting game" Their point was that they, perhaps to their own surprise, prefer the more simplistic gameplay, and if that is indeed the case telling them to play a more complicated game is missing the point entirely.
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Chun Li's red color is easily unlocked. #5 I think. Just use that.
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