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Bland posted:Man I've played over 2000 games and I don't think I've unlocked even half of the champions in the game, how many games do you have to have played to have no use for champion shards? Riot used to do double ip weekends like the world was gonna end so if you spammed the gently caress out of games you could make mad ip
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Gridlocked posted:Neat. Can anyone give advice on how to build him because champion.gg has him at a 46% win rate; but I understand that's mostly because he has a 10% play-rate and people who don't know how to play him/pick him on the right teams are losing games at champ select. There's a lot of ways to build Bard, and especially in terms of runes a lot of approaches are strong in their own way. In general though: Run Flash/Ignite 90% of the time, he has a ton of early lane pressure and base damage and you really want to be able to capitalize on that/bring damage for roams. Versus all assassins you can go exhaust, but he has a lot of cc options already/ways to stop allins and it can be tough to justify giving up that much power. For masteries, I think 0/18/12 with Thunderlords is the best way to build him, but there's some debate. For runes, pick and choose a combo of the following: Reds: Hybrid pen, Magic Pen, Attack Speed, AD Yellows: Health, Armor Blues: Magic resist, mana/5 (imo not a great option b.c you get so much from chimes, but some ppl do it), AP, AP/lvl or CDR if you have a specific build in mind. Quints: Armor/HP, MS, AP I would look at probuilds or the like to get a better idea of what are good combinations of these. IMO the best Bards to watch/emulate are Wolf & Madlife in the LCK and Aphromoo in NA. However, all of the above runes have been used by Bard players in high elo and it's very much personal preference. I have 3 or 4 different Bard pages I swap in and out, but honestly a standard AD reds page with AP or AS quints and tank yellows/blues will do just fine. Items: You want to build tanky cdr as a general guideline. Always start spellthiefs, but from there you can go FQC or Eye of the Watchers, depending on how many wards your team can provide/if the ghost active is useful/whether or not you need to just rush for Aegis. The other 'almost always build' item is Locket, or if you don't need the tankiness Banner, but at a high level it's pretty much all Locket. For boots, you can go either Swifties, Mobos or Lucidity. I personally choose one of the first two if I'm roaming heavily and am going to build a Mikhaels/Zekes or other CDR items and choose Lucidity if I want to go straight to a tankier build. For flex items, Mikhaels/Zekes are pretty popular. Use these if you go MS boots, or have a strong carry to protect. Generally very solid options on Bard. Frozen Heart, despite being imo a bit weak at the moment, is very good on Bard -- he can keep people just in the aura pretty easily, and if you go swifties/mobos FH can go a long way towards getting you to 40% cdr. Randuins and Spectres Cowl are both fine tank items, as well as Zz'rot if you're capped on cdr and need the pushing power. Iceborn Gauntlet is something a lot of people like on him, that does give him stats he likes, but with the way slow stacking works you don't get much out of the passive when it procs on a meep-empowered auto. I personally never build it, but a decent number of people do. As for when to pick him, he's pretty versatile and there aren't any auto-loss matchups. That said, he is pretty weak to Blitzcrank all-ins, Soraka can outsustain him pretty well, and Sona can often outdps in early trades. Even those matchups, that statistically are low 40% win rate for Bard are still mostly skill matchups, and even if you lose in lane you can go roam and get advantages elsewhere. IMO he's the strongest generalist support at the moment, post the Thresh nerfs and his buffs. e: the caveat to him being strong & versatile is that he also does have a pretty high skillcap, and while you're figuring out how to play him it can involve a lot of feeding and bad ults. But imo he's incredibly rewarding to learn, he was my first Mastery 5 champ and is definitely my favorite character in the game. As you've probably gathered from a lot of other posters, he's got a v dedicated player base. There's a lot to playing him, I would look on /r/summonerschool or /r/bardmains for challenger level guides, there are some surprisingly good ones. Or watch Aphromoo/Wolf/Madlife vods/streams. The former has really solid roaming play, Wolf is good all-around, and Madlife pretty much hard carries with his bard ults. foutre fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Mar 31, 2016 |
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Mar 31, 2016 03:31
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Everyone shut the gently caress up for a second and look at this. http://imgur.com/a/siDb0  They mock me like this. They spit in my face and expect me to ask for more, and I do, because I've been beaten down and know my only reason for existence is to be a subject for abuse. 
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Mar 31, 2016 03:38
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What the gently caress am I looking at
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Mar 31, 2016 03:43
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Ascension, a special mode game of dominion which recently died also kashuno guy get back your loving impact av that anime poo poo looks stupid
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Mar 31, 2016 03:46
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Ascension was fun. I got all the icons.
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Mar 31, 2016 03:55
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Remind me to never chat in game again. Oh god why do I do it. I know I mentally cannot handle Bronze players giving me strategy advice, and yet I still do it. This time, it started with me coming bot to let a Draven who was at 5% health go back without losing his tower. Pinging back, over and over. He of course stayed, and died. After I went to bot lane specifically to allow him to safely back and not lose the tower. I just really need to not let that poo poo eat me up. No matter how loving stupid someone is in League, it can literally never be a bad decision on their part. There is always something or someone else that justifies it. My current bad decision is ever using chat. I cannot justify it. It is just a stupid loving decision on my part. I need to stop. I just need to. Oh god.
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Mar 31, 2016 04:04
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I really learned a lot today, Djinn is also really good, thanks keeby
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Mar 31, 2016 04:05
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Thanks so much man. Sounds like he is going to require some dedication to learn rather then just playing Naut/Quinn for days :P  Hmmm. Tech too secret for me. Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Mar 31, 2016 |
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Oh my god I cannot believe we actually pulled through and won this game. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2142912657/128125?tab=overview Defended our nexus twice with only one turret left. Stole Baron from a WW that tried to solo it for some stupid reason. Combo stunned the 10/3/7 WW who had previously one shot me with his ult.
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Great post from foutre IMO. There is no actual consensus even among pros about how to rune page Bard. If you look up a lot of competitive match stats there are wildly different setups a lot of the top Bard players use. I would recommend trying a lot of them out like he said and find what works best. Also look up some YouTube highlights or lol event VoDs of EVER (ESC) Key playing Bard in Korean challenger or the international event where EVER played. He was the first guy to really blow up competitive with Bard and he's the best in the world at him IMO. He had like dozens of consecutive Bard bans in competitive matches.
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I was thinking of starting with Hybrid Reds/Armour Quints/HP Yellows/AP Blues because that seems to be the most popular Damage+Health+Survial set up and I'm honestly not worried about having MR in lane especially because AoL is such a big purchase.
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Mar 31, 2016 05:16
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My bard has aspd reds
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Methanar posted:When I post is it really like reading Naga's posts? no because you don't fill the thread with 100 pissy argument posts instead of taking it to PM or whatever
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Gridlocked posted:Thanks so much man. Sounds like he is going to require some dedication to learn rather then just playing Naut/Quinn for days :P should be fixed
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Mar 31, 2016 06:41
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Do you run probuilds?
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Gridlocked posted:Is Tham Kench just bad now? Tahm's overnerfed, but he's one of those champs who will always be either broken or overnerfed. Kindred is a squishy finicky champion who has trouble fitting into most groups. Brad is awesome. Buy Brad. You will hate Brad for like 10 games because everything you do is wrong, then you will love Brad forever. He's weird but he's balanced and once his kit 'clicks' with you it's really, really good. Also his base and skins are all good.
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Biowarfare posted:should be fixed Nope.
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Luna Was Here posted:Riot used to do double ip weekends like the world was gonna end so if you spammed the gently caress out of games you could make mad ip yeah   and i know some people here have more than i do
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Gridlocked posted:Nope. ok it should be fixed now
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Verviticus posted:ok it should be fixed now Nope.
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Gridlocked posted:Nope. i loaded the site just fine, its something on your end
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Luna Was Here posted:i loaded the site just fine, its something on your end Specifically Madlife or just the site in general? Cause it's working fine when I try to load say Wolf but not Madlife for some reason.
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specifically madlife
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@keeby you  me 
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Servaetes posted:also kashuno guy get back your loving impact av that anime poo poo looks stupid I fully agree and will be buying it back to replace this bad anime one
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Lady Naga posted:I'm not mad at anything lmao.
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FactsAreUseless posted:You seem super mad, though, all the time. Maybe walk away from this thread for a bit. naga you got a mod to go into a moba thread jfc
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:naga you got a mod to go into a moba thread jfc We're hosed now
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oh god my relentless shitposting will finally be checked either that or it will be business as usual with Naga kicked out of another moba thread
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They will close the thread like they did with Dota.
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Bholder posted:They will close the thread like they did with Dota. God no where else will I get Bard advice, get told my friends are assholes and have pog boyfriend humorously tear my games apart?
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Bholder posted:They will close the thread like they did with Dota. i always knew we had the better community >:)
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Darth Windu posted:I forget he has an E literally all of the time except when I need to escape then I use it and die See, I'm the opposite. Playing Bard opens up a magical realm where walls are actually superhighways that get me places faster. The only problem is when I play him for a week or two straight, and then go to other supports. "  Found me dropping a deep ward, eh, Mr. Enemy Jungler? Well I guess I'll just zip out of here with my--Braum doesn't have portals.  "Seriously, though. Learning to portal properly, maxing it second, so it's always up, and figuring out all the little glitchy places you can either portal straight through curved walls, or places to avoid, since they always give you annoying chode portals, is one of the things I found "unlocks" Bard and makes him so much fun. TheIncredulousHulk posted:I want to know each and every person who says Morgana is bad so that I may fight them with my fists I agree here. Maybe it's because at Wood 6, everything feels good, but Morg feels kinda powerful right now. Thunderlord's feels powerful on her, her kit is fairly straightforward (except maybe her ult). In lane, her puddle lets you zone ADCs who are paying attention, and get free poke on the ones who just stand there CSing in the poo poo, and her teamfight is powerful, especially when the enemy team obligingly gets out of position or clumps up. Plus, as someone who's played a lot of Bard, she feels like a really solid Bard counter. Bind-puddle whenever he comes up to harass with his stun in lane, bind-puddle whenever you catch him out roaming, and, of course, black shielding the target of his ult makes me laugh like Milhouse because I know how hard that ult was to pull off properly.
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Bard can stun Morgana through ranks 1-4 black shield (assuming q-first and no ap investment early) because the q is two instances of cc, the stun is actually delayed until the second target is hit. Also by the time you get rank 5 shield Bard has meeps that can two shot the shield too. But you're right the counter lies in blocking the ultimate it's just the shield is too fragile to stop any of his pre-6 antics. I still enjoy running ap Bard now and again when the circumstances permit for it, though. E: playing any other champion after Bard is weird because you forget you're not immune to terrain, like other Bard players have said. Mottie fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Mar 31, 2016 |
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Kashuno posted:Good bard portals make or break a bard player. I recommend watching a lot of old Loony Tunes shorts to get the proper sense of "It would be so funny if I popped out of a hole in this wall and messed with that dude". Despite his whole "spiritual zen master" flavor, the proper mindset to have when playing Bard is "Bugs Bunny". Edit: Mottie posted:Bard can stun Morgana through ranks 1-4 black shield (assuming q-first and no ap investment early) because the q is two instances of cc, the stun is actually delayed until the second target is hit. Which is why I don't bother trying to black shield myself for stuns. I just try to use my knowledge of Bard to keep myself away from stun opportunities, and give him the ol' Q-W fuckoff whenever I see him lining up a shot. Hermetic fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Mar 31, 2016 |
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