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Ague Proof posted:It's a religious thing. I'm fairly certain this was the point of the putrefication thing in the books, since GRRM borrows heavily from history for many aspects of the book.
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If Stannis *does* take over Winterfell and only later sacrifices Shireen, I gotta thank the TV show runners from draining whatever catharsis him destroying the Boltons would be for me, which I've been waiting for for like 6 years. (Others, probably close to 20)
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I'm sorry but this is just you jumping to conclusions, you guys are saying "it fits thematically so it must happen", which is fine and whatever but we don't actually know anything, we might guess and speculate but that's how things stand at the moment. Does book Stannis even have many scenes with book Shireen? I know the show pretty much changed Shireen completely to make her sympathetic and likable, the only scene I can remember with her in the books is hiding behind her mothers skirt complaining about how disgusting the wildling women are.
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Mar 30, 2016 17:46
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Stan never interacts with Shireen in the books iirc.
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Mar 30, 2016 18:03
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Wasn't there a scene with him, her, and Patchface or am I totally making that up? I don't think they spoke to each other, but were hanging around each other.
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I don't think so, we basically only 'see' Shireen 3 times before ADWD. Maester Pylos is giving her a lesson in the ACOK prologue, then we see her again in ASOS when Davos is on his way to assassinate Melisandre and another time when he sneaks Edric out of the castle (again as they are being tutored by Pylos). Then in ADWD she only arrives at castle black long after Stannis has began marching south. Unless I'm forgetting something of course, but anyway I think it's safe to say they don't have too many interactions on-page.
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Mar 30, 2016 18:49
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I've been really turned off of the Tywin was poisoned theory because of the way it's always presented. For some reason people are incapable of saying there is some circumstantial evidence and maybe this is a thing that happened. Instead, it's always  Oh it's so obvious, didn't you see all of the several clues in the books? I guess you're just not as observant because there is no way this theory is not true.
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Mar 30, 2016 19:55
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counterfeitsaint posted:I've been really turned off of the Tywin was poisoned theory because of the way it's always presented. For some reason people are incapable of saying there is some circumstantial evidence and maybe this is a thing that happened. Instead, it's always Also it has zero bearing on the story what so ever so who gives a gently caress? Tyrion killed him, on the toilet, with the crossbow. Mystery solved.
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Mar 30, 2016 20:11
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Solice Kirsk posted:Also it has zero bearing on the story what so ever so who gives a gently caress? Tyrion killed him, on the toilet, with the crossbow. Mystery solved. Yes, but it gives Oberyn the last laugh. He didn't die stupidly in the name of petty vengeance, he did so with a smile in his heart knowing Tywin was a dead man making GBS threads! I think it makes sense for people to want to attribute far more to Oberyn than he may deserve, because he was just so loving awesome. It just so happens that this all fits together in a way that validates that attribution of poisoning.
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Mar 30, 2016 20:44
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Did Oberyn mail Dany some poison too?
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kater posted:Did Oberyn mail Dany some poison too? Yes. He is also a secret Targ. And he's Jon's mother, and went back in time to father Tyrion.
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Mar 30, 2016 21:06
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I always thought that Tywin's corpse stank because Tyrion shot him through his intestines and his poo poo kept leaking after he died
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Mar 30, 2016 22:19
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Maybe Tywin was already dead when he was shot with the crossbow and what Tyrion thought was his dad speaking to him was in fact pockets of air escaping from the flaps of his skin.
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Mar 30, 2016 22:58
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He's too skinny for that; it was all enunciated farts noises from making GBS threads to death.
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Finally finished reading the last book. Am among those who don't like the killing off of Selmy when he is still alive in the books With the Quentyn Martell plotline gone - who free's the remaining dragons or does that happen next season or at all? Loved that ending with Varys and Uncle Kevan, would love to see that in the show though not sure how they would do it given he is with Tyrion across the narrow sea now.
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Jedimastafez posted:
The bet currently is on Tyrion, due to a scene from the trailer. Of course he won't die. Personally I believe things will get out of his control with the Sons of the Harpy (should have killed him when he was still in the Pit, shouldn't you? loving D&D and their self-induced plotholes) and he will be cornered with no option but to release the dragons. On another note, I just discovered this theory and now I want to believe. Varys gonna screw everyone with his phantom dick 
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Mar 31, 2016 06:31
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Jedimastafez posted:
travel time on this show is like half an episode.
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Mar 31, 2016 06:47
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zVxTeflon posted:travel time on this show is like half an episode. Nah, only Littlefinger can use Villain Teleportation because he is really not good at hiding his villany.
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I was actually kinda worried about Kevan Lannister's portrayal on the show after he was relegated to being an extra in the first two seasons, but all it took was one scene with him ridiculing Cersei to her face and now the audience loves him. He should've had the line about thinking Tommen still has his father with him, too, but maybe that's forthcoming. All we'd need is one scene of him suggesting he knows about Cersei and Jaime and that scene from last season and he's perfectly set up to die by the hand of Varys and his little birds.
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Apoplexy posted:I was actually kinda worried about Kevan Lannister's portrayal on the show after he was relegated to being an extra in the first two seasons, but all it took was one scene with him ridiculing Cersei to her face and now the audience loves him. He should've had the line about thinking Tommen still has his father with him, too, but maybe that's forthcoming. All we'd need is one scene of him suggesting he knows about Cersei and Jaime and that scene from last season and he's perfectly set up to die by the hand of Varys and his little birds. Given that Varys isn't around, if Kevan keeps gaining influence over Tommen/cooperating with the Tyrells, I could almost see Cersei orchestrating his death. Probably a long shot, but unlikelier things have happened on this show.
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I'm still trying to figure out what in the hell Varys' motivation is supposed to be in the show since they aren't going to have the whole Aegon thing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PtOAnZxB8s This did more than any trailer to get me hyped for S6.
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Ginette Reno posted:I'm still trying to figure out what in the hell Varys' motivation is supposed to be in the show since they aren't going to have the whole Aegon thing. To unite the realm, assuming against the Others
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Omnomnomnivore posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PtOAnZxB8s This is pretty loving great.
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I finished season 5 despite friends sayin it was bad It was an awesome experience I recommend seas on5 to ALL speople big or tall. I had no idea the twists and turns (I m not a book watcer personally so I have on ly seen the show) so at this time only having seen the show and not the book I enjoyed what events transpired .... until I found out some TRICKERY was afoot with some changes between the show &the books? How dare they ... I looked up said trickery and omg miranda wasnt even in th book ? She was the most lovable character the interaction scene wher he and sana have the bow fight was awesome. Anyways, what is up with the lady's nose bleeding while the other girl is dying from the poison? I jsut couldnt put that one together ... I haven't spoiled season 6 but whatever happens will be cool I think.
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i hope this ends with the stupidest poo poo like jon snows corpse riding a giant undead spider vs tyrion riding a dragon or somethin
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Meowbot posted:
She poisoned herself by putting it on her lips, that's how she delivered it. Then she took the antidote.
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Meowbot posted:I finished season 5 despite friends sayin it was bad It was an awesome experience I recommend seas on5 to ALL speople big or tall. I had no idea the twists and turns (I m not a book watcer personally so I have on ly seen the show) so at this time only having seen the show and not the book I enjoyed what events transpired .... until I found out some TRICKERY was afoot with some changes between the show &the books? How dare they ... I looked up said trickery and omg miranda wasnt even in th book ? She was the most lovable character the interaction scene wher he and sana have the bow fight was awesome. Please never post in this or any other thread ever again.
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Meowbot posted:I finished season 5 despite friends sayin it was bad It was an awesome experience I recommend seas on5 to ALL speople big or tall. I had no idea the twists and turns (I m not a book watcer personally so I have on ly seen the show) so at this time only having seen the show and not the book I enjoyed what events transpired .... until I found out some TRICKERY was afoot with some changes between the show &the books? How dare they ... I looked up said trickery and omg miranda wasnt even in th book ? She was the most lovable character the interaction scene wher he and sana have the bow fight was awesome. This post is better if you read it like it's coming out of the mouth of a 5 year old.
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Meowbot posted:I finished season 5 despite friends sayin it was bad It was an awesome experience I recommend seas on5 to ALL speople big or tall. I had no idea the twists and turns (I m not a book watcer personally so I have on ly seen the show) so at this time only having seen the show and not the book I enjoyed what events transpired .... until I found out some TRICKERY was afoot with some changes between the show &the books? How dare they ... I looked up said trickery and omg miranda wasnt even in th book ? She was the most lovable character the interaction scene wher he and sana have the bow fight was awesome. i look forward to more detailed Game of Thrones synopses from you in the future
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http://qz.com/650796/mathematicians-mapped-out-every-game-of-thrones-relationship-to-find-the-main-character/ Nothing surprising but cool to look at.
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Zero One posted:http://qz.com/650796/mathematicians-mapped-out-every-game-of-thrones-relationship-to-find-the-main-character/ I like how the curves lines make it look like Dany is a hurricane slowly coming in from off the coast.
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If you remove dead people, the only connection left between Mereen and the rest of the world is the minimal thickness Jamie <=> Barristan link.
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Asehujiko posted:If you remove dead people, the only connection left between Mereen and the rest of the world is the minimal thickness Jamie <=> Barristan link. And Tyrion.
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Meowbot posted:I finished season 5 despite friends sayin it was bad It was an awesome experience I recommend seas on5 to ALL speople big or tall. I had no idea the twists and turns (I m not a book watcer personally so I have on ly seen the show) so at this time only having seen the show and not the book I enjoyed what events transpired .... until I found out some TRICKERY was afoot with some changes between the show &the books? How dare they ... I looked up said trickery and omg miranda wasnt even in th book ? She was the most lovable character the interaction scene wher he and sana have the bow fight was awesome. This year, Meowbot is the OP of the thread
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Asehujiko posted:If you remove dead people, the only connection left between Mereen and the rest of the world is the minimal thickness Jamie <=> Barristan link. It's only based on ASOS for some reason, so yeah there's a bunch of stuff still to happen and connections to add/remove. That's probably also why Sansa comes up so highly, since for most of that book she's at court in King's Landing and interacting with a lot of characters.
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computer parts posted:And Tyrion. Tyrion's in Meereen.
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Phenotype posted:Tyrion's in Meereen. The graphic was drawn based on a Storm of Swords. And it uses a weird criteria. Connections are made whenever a character name pops up 15 words away from another character name. That is why, for example, Illyrio is not connected to Varys, Rickon is not connected to Jon, or Joffrey is not connected to Robert (my eyes bled out trying to make that out), or some weird connections pop up like Brienne - Lysa Arrin, Balon Greyjoy - Sansa or Amory Loch - Oberyn.
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Mystery Opponent posted:I always thought that Tywin's corpse stank because Tyrion shot him through his intestines and his poo poo kept leaking after he died The guys in the book said they took his guts out and threw them away and stuffed his abdomen with flowers and ceder chips but nothing worked. And they can't stop him from smiling like he farted and he's proud of it. It was a huge mystery why he stinks so bad. One of the poisons someone described sometime said it just shut down your body's ability to make waste so you drowned in your own poisons so, to my mind, I like this idea because it means his whole body was poo poo. You can toss out his stink tubes and that doesn't matter when his skin blisters and more poo poo comes bubbling up from every other part of him. Anyway it was just a cool idea. Like syrio being the same faceless man as j'aquen. It would be neat to have some threads of continuity but it might probably be wrong. It's still fun to think about. And thinking about it is all we have left. counterfeitsaint posted:I've been really turned off of the Tywin was poisoned theory because of the way it's always presented. For some reason people are incapable of saying there is some circumstantial evidence and maybe this is a thing that happened. Instead, it's always
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Krinkle posted:
The main problem with this theory is that even if it's magical plot poison, the bodies of the inhabitants of ASoIaF are pretty much still human with some exceptions. Tywin should have developed symptoms way sooner (fever, swelling, jaundice among others), and even if his pride would initially stop him from going up to a Maester and admiting he has not been able to poop, after a while he would have realized something was amiss. And he would most certainly not be in the mood for sex. For that reason, I either think his body stinking up was either metaphorically to represent his corruptness (improbable, since GRRM does not do this kind of things as far as I can remember) or someone purposedly tampered with the body conditioning in order to piss Cersei off (the Queen of Thorns, but most probably Varys in order to ignite Cersei's paranoia).
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