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Sefal: Nov 8, 2011; Fun Shoe

What are some good ways to manage the front end of our systems? The company is going to go forward with mobile devices such as phones and tablets. I'd like to be on the ball with this.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 08:52

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# ? May 26, 2024 09:12

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

Sefal posted:

What are some good ways to manage the front end of our systems? The company is going to go forward with mobile devices such as phones and tablets. I'd like to be on the ball with this.

You should probably standardize what they're allowed to have, dont let them pick and choose.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 09:08

luminalflux: May 27, 2005

Turtlicious posted:

That was a half joke, and I have a car, but doesn't the fact the thing goes under the bay in an earth quake prone area, even a little disconcerting?

Less disconcerting than surviving on peanuts in the bay area.

(Earthquake is probably more welcome than whatever gross poo poo grows in the BART seats)

# ? Mar 31, 2016 09:17

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

Sefal posted:

What are some good ways to manage the front end of our systems? The company is going to go forward with mobile devices such as phones and tablets. I'd like to be on the ball with this.

I'm a huge android fan, but if you have a lot of people getting phones, I'd probably do iPhones. It'll provide a huge amount of consistency and will make life easier for the tier-1 people who have to troubleshoot.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 09:25

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

If you're deploying iOS devices then put Casper in

# ? Mar 31, 2016 09:45

Sefal: Nov 8, 2011; Fun Shoe

Sadly IPhones are out of the question. the company is moving forward with Windows Phones (lumias) and Android phones (MOTO G) for a select few people.

We also will distribute tablets. We will give out Ipads unless the person needs the surface pro for specific applications.

Would Intune be a good app to manage the phones?

# ? Mar 31, 2016 09:50

Thanks Ants: May 21, 2004; #essereFerrari

I think Intune might end up good in the future, they are doing a classic MS portal redesign at the moment where half the settings are made in one place, and the other half are in a control panel that needs Silverlight and an old version of IE.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 10:04

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Sefal posted:

Sadly IPhones are out of the question. the company is moving forward with Windows Phones (lumias)

hah

hahahahah

# ? Mar 31, 2016 12:48

GreenNight: Feb 19, 2006; Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

My boss must own stock in VMWare because we're going with AirWatch for MDM. I have a meeting next week with the sales dude on the specifics. iPhones here but also need to manage android tablets, windows 8.1 tablets, etc.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 13:00

gooby pls: May 18, 2012

Sefal posted:

Sadly IPhones are out of the question. the company is moving forward with Windows Phones (lumias) and Android phones (MOTO G) for a select few people.

We also will distribute tablets. We will give out Ipads unless the person needs the surface pro for specific applications.

Would Intune be a good app to manage the phones?

If you're a smaller shop I think Meraki MDM is free for 100 users.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 13:08

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Turtlicious posted:

Do you guys think you could help me with my resume? Or are you all convinced I made everything up, and there's no more help on the table? I'd go to the resume thread, but since I have a specific field in mind, I feel like here would be better.

Like 3/4 of the people in that thread are in technology in some fashion, just post it there

# ? Mar 31, 2016 13:28

Collateral Damage: Jun 13, 2009

Bob Morales posted:

hah

hahahahah

Give him some credit, at least they're not pushing Blackberry. :v:

# ? Mar 31, 2016 13:44

j3rkstore: Jan 28, 2009; L'esprit d'escalier

Gave my notice the next day. :yotj:

# ? Mar 31, 2016 13:47

CloFan: Nov 6, 2004

Why not just say "No"? For all he knows you're in a waiting room bored out of your skull

# ? Mar 31, 2016 13:50

Docjowles: Apr 9, 2009

j3rkstore posted:

Gave my notice the next day.

A friend of mine was a sysadmin for a company full of shitlords. They made a lot of annoying requests, but the winner was definitely when he got an extremely rude call during his wedding chewing him out because he hadn't responded to some issue quickly enough. He gave his notice the day he returned to work from his honeymoon. They actually even offered him an absurd raise to stay, but some people just aren't loving worth it.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 13:56

Kashuno: Oct 9, 2012; Where the hell is my SWORD?; Grimey Drawer

jeez and here I get annoyed if someone asks me for help on a holiday. It could be so much worse.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 13:57

devmd01: Mar 7, 2006; Elektronik
Supersonik

I must be in a pod then, because unless it's something I plan myself to do after hours, when I leave work at 4PM it stays there until I return at 7AM. There is on-call but I've been called maaaybe 5 times in the past year, and always for stupid poo poo that I could tell them to wait until the next day or just put in a drat ticket.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 14:04

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Kashuno posted:

jeez and here I get annoyed if someone asks me for help on a holiday. It could be so much worse.

My biggest pain is the phone call from someone traveling having wifi problems. Can't get on the wireless network at the hotel, airport, wherver (guess what they aren't all free). Or they're on wifi and it's slow (what the gently caress am I supposed to do about that), or the wifi blocks VPN connections (again, sucks for you, go to Starbucks down the street), or who knows what else. Hey you have an iPhone, tether your laptop to it for 10 minutes while you do hell knows what.

And do they call at 1:30 in the afternoon when they check in? No, they call/text at 9:30 at night after they have been out to dinner with a client and are back at the hotel.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 14:19

Kashuno: Oct 9, 2012; Where the hell is my SWORD?; Grimey Drawer

Bob Morales posted:

My biggest pain is the phone call from someone traveling having wifi problems. Can't get on the wireless network at the hotel, airport, wherver (guess what they aren't all free). Or they're on wifi and it's slow (what the gently caress am I supposed to do about that), or the wifi blocks VPN connections (again, sucks for you, go to Starbucks down the street), or who knows what else. Hey you have an iPhone, tether your laptop to it for 10 minutes while you do hell knows what.

And do they call at 1:30 in the afternoon when they check in? No, they call/text at 9:30 at night after they have been out to dinner with a client and are back at the hotel.

"I'm on a plane with wifi but the connection is slow and SAP is throwing up errors."

bummer for you.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 14:22

Japanese Dating Sim: Nov 12, 2003; hehe; Lipstick Apathy

CloFan posted:

Why not just say "No"? For all he knows you're in a waiting room bored out of your skull

I think the the liberal use of "u" is the biggest offense in that text.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 14:23

MC Fruit Stripe: Nov 26, 2002; around and around we go

Japanese Dating Sim posted:

I think the the liberal use of "u" is the biggest offense in that text.

Oh god how right you are

# ? Mar 31, 2016 14:28

Dark Helmut: Jul 24, 2004; All growns up

SaltLick posted:

I'd kinda like Dark Helmut to chime in on this too.

I love trying to help my friends get jobs and it seems like it could be pretty fulfilling helping others. I'm sure there's a lot I'm missing though.

I don't want to turn this thread into recruiter speak because everyone else will hate me, but it's been an interesting transition and if you have an aptitude for relationship building then it can be a good career. Agencies run the gamut from small local boutique firms to large conglomerates and the experience and work you do will vary wildly. In general, the bigger firms are more numbers-driven and transactional. They tend to hire people right out of school and throw them on the phone and tell them what to do and how often to do it. In my opinion these places are where you get the majority of "shithead recruiter" experiences, because you're usually dealing with someone that has very little career experience and is being made to deal with insane numbers of candidates. On the flip side, the smaller places may have deeper relationships but smaller footprints. I'm lucky to work for a company that has a small company mentality but a larger footprint. I got a job offer as a business development manager last year from one of the big companies and I turned it down because I don't want to work in that environment. And they wore ties every day - yuck...

Money can vary wildly, but typically you'll be on a base plus commission. My base is a live-able wage (on par with what I was making as a senior desktop guy) and then as long as I'm doing a decent job I can typically double that most years.

I love fixing people problems as opposed to computer problems, so the job is rewarding from that sense. You do actually make a difference in peoples' lives and careers, and on top of that you get rewarded well when you do. If you don't like being social, if the idea of lunches and happy hours and making conversation with complete strangers scares you, it's probably not for you. Same goes for calling. I'm not a super sales-y guy, but when I call people I'm offering them a service (for free) so my calls are typically received well.

On the down side, people are wildly unpredictable so like any sales job there are high highs and low lows, so that has been a challenge as well. You can do corporate recruiting, which is much slower paced than what I do, but those jobs tend to pay much less and be slower paced.

Hope this answers most of what you guys are looking for. Feel free to PM me for more specifics.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 14:44

Matt Zerella: Oct 7, 2002; Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

gooby pls posted:

If you're a smaller shop I think Meraki MDM is free for 100 users.

We use this and it works well. On iOS. It's pretty worthless on Android.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 15:07

Sepist: Dec 26, 2005; FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS; Gravy Boat 2k

devmd01 posted:

I must be in a pod then, because unless it's something I plan myself to do after hours, when I leave work at 4PM it stays there until I return at 7AM. There is on-call but I've been called maaaybe 5 times in the past year, and always for stupid poo poo that I could tell them to wait until the next day or just put in a drat ticket.

Eh I am the same way - I have been called once in 3 years and that was because an executive report got screwed up on a friday afternoon by one of our inept programmers and I was the only "programmer" who answers his phone (I'm not a programmer)

# ? Mar 31, 2016 15:19

H110Hawk: Dec 28, 2006

Turtlicious posted:

That was a half joke, and I have a car, but doesn't the fact the thing goes under the bay in an earth quake prone area, even a little disconcerting?

Nope. We bury gas lines in an earthquake prone area too. Fatalism can help you see the world through clearer eyes.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 15:23

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

Bob Morales posted:

My biggest pain is the phone call from someone traveling having wifi problems. Can't get on the wireless network at the hotel, airport, wherver (guess what they aren't all free). Or they're on wifi and it's slow (what the gently caress am I supposed to do about that), or the wifi blocks VPN connections (again, sucks for you, go to Starbucks down the street), or who knows what else. Hey you have an iPhone, tether your laptop to it for 10 minutes while you do hell knows what.

And do they call at 1:30 in the afternoon when they check in? No, they call/text at 9:30 at night after they have been out to dinner with a client and are back at the hotel.

At my old job a client requested that we have somebody stay late in the office in order to troubleshoot any issues the CEO had with the wifi on a Southwest flight he was taking.

It was one of the only times management actually said "No" to a client, thank God.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 15:27

Vulture Culture: Jul 14, 2003; I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Inspector_666 posted:

At my old job a client requested that we have somebody stay late in the office in order to troubleshoot any issues the CEO had with the wifi on a Southwest flight he was taking.

It was one of the only times management actually said "No" to a client, thank God.

a man so important that he's flying coach

# ? Mar 31, 2016 16:18

MC Fruit Stripe: Nov 26, 2002; around and around we go

"He didn't get to be rich by spending his money" said someone who has never seen a CEO's paycheck.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 16:25

Proud Christian Mom: Dec 20, 2006; READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

he didnt get rich by spending his money on poo poo that wasn't immediately classified as a business expense

# ? Mar 31, 2016 17:03

H110Hawk: Dec 28, 2006

Vulture Culture posted:

a man so important that he's flying ~~coach~~commercial

# ? Mar 31, 2016 17:09

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

Maybe he's the CEO of Southwest.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 17:12

beepsandboops: Jan 28, 2014

Yesterday I had a woman from sales call me from a taxiing airplane to troubleshoot an issue.

Fortunately, it was during business hours and she didn't demand that I fix it before the plane took off. But really? You couldn't wait or do this earlier?

# ? Mar 31, 2016 17:57

ChubbyThePhat: Dec 22, 2006; Who nico nico needs anyone else

go3 posted:

he didnt get rich by spending his money on poo poo that wasn't immediately classified as a business expense

Pretty much this.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 17:58

psydude: Apr 1, 2008

Sepist posted:

Eh I am the same way - I have been called once in 3 years and that was because an executive report got screwed up on a friday afternoon by one of our inept programmers and I was the only "programmer" who answers his phone (I'm not a programmer)

I had a customer call me a couple of Saturdays ago during a change window they didn't bother telling me about for a device that wasn't included in my scope of work. So I ignored it and then ignored their follow on email and text message. The sky didn't fall.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 03:50

MC Fruit Stripe: Nov 26, 2002; around and around we go

Sounds like SOMEONE isn't going the extra mile!

# ? Apr 1, 2016 03:54

Turtlicious: Sep 17, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I went ahead and sen t my boss a counter proposal, and told him I could manage the network but I couldn't set up and manage the AD on the pay being offered. I then took the offer of 32k for running the office infrastructure, and negotiated my way out of the non compete poo poo now I work a 32 hour work week with lunches no work on Fridays, and just have to keep a system that ran itself for 6 years running. AND bonuses, and pay for education. The pay is low, and my new title is Proctor of Technology, but that's still better then where I was. I can also now look for a job in piece and someone vacuumed all the glass out of my office. Things are looking up I think.

People still call me CT though.