Comic Book Movie Megathread: Bubble? What bubble?

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Air Skwirl: May 13, 2007; Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I'm tempted to say nobody comes off well on Twitter but Jesus, Devin.

Lexi Alexander is the champion of twitter.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 23:18

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# ? May 8, 2024 08:34

Gorn Myson: Aug 8, 2007

The difference between FCH and Devin is that FCH takes forever to get to his point in an article but moves onto something else in the next, whereas Devin really only has one point that he repeats over and over again for years on end.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 23:20

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD: Sep 14, 2007; everything is yours

That guy needs a cigarette or something.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 23:21

CelticPredator: Oct 11, 2013; 🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

I forget where I heard it, but someone was talking to Devin about how nice and shy he is as a person and how huge of an rear end in a top hat he is on the internet and he just laughed and shrugged.

I don't know why but that skeeves me a lot.

Also I like FCH.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 23:23

Semper Fudge: Feb 19, 2009; Pitchfork was wrong. (f)lowers of Algerbong is crap.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

That guy needs a cigarette or something.

Deep down that dude wants to be a serious respected film critic, but he knows the only thing keeping the lights on is rumor milling who Peter Quill's dad is or some poo poo.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 23:25

HorseRenoir: Dec 25, 2011; Pillbug

My favorite Devin Faraci story is the time he claimed that all anime was for pedophiles, immediately blocked anyone who disagreed, then compared the blowback to being a victim of domestic abuse

# ? Mar 31, 2016 23:28

Colonel Whitey: May 22, 2004; This shit's about to go off.

The Cameo posted:

Nah, Faraci is a giant piece of poo poo. This is his reaction to someone leaking the screenplay (written by a friend of his) for Fantastic Four after opening weekend (and the guy he's berating, we will note, never actually leaked the thing and Faraci never apologized):

He also just happens to be terrible at being anything but a self-aggrandizing tool.

Yeah that's pretty ugly but it seems like people get more mad about him getting a rumor about Batman wrong than him attacking people on Twitter

# ? Mar 31, 2016 23:30

Guy A. Person: May 23, 2003

Colonel Whitey posted:

Yeah that's pretty ugly but it seems like people get more mad about him getting a rumor about Batman wrong than him attacking people on Twitter

He's not "getting a rumor wrong" he's intentionally lying about poo poo to support his narrative and drive traffic to his website.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 23:34

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

A Facebook post just reminded me that Cap's best friend (Bucky, the Winter Soldier)'s first name is James. Iron Man's best friend (Rhodes, War Machine) is also named James. Maybe Marvel can have their own "Martha" moment.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 23:35

The Cameo: Jan 20, 2005

Guy A. Person posted:

He's not "getting a rumor wrong" he's intentionally lying about poo poo to support his narrative and drive traffic to his website.

He literally did this today with a report on Suicide Squad's reshoots being about "inserting humor and lightness into the movie after the reaction to the Queen trailer".

The guy who does the prosthetics for Killer Croc basically was like "uh, no, these have been pick-ups scheduled for months because Adewale's earliest availability was now", and meanwhile Will Smith is in NYC shooting another movie.

A lot of the time it comes off like he doesn't actually know how movies are made when he has been covering it for well north of a decade.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 23:43

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE: Aug 1, 2004; whoa, what just happened here?; College Slice

Colonel Whitey posted:

Yeah that's pretty ugly but it seems like people get more mad about him getting a rumor about Batman wrong than him attacking people on Twitter

Hello, it's just because the intersection is this thread, then yes that's what you're going to see.

# ? Mar 31, 2016 23:48

achillesforever6: Apr 23, 2012; psst you wanna do a communism?

Didn't see this posted but Kyle Kallagren posted a pretty great video on Superman that you guys would like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIKYRZc9A1M

# ? Apr 1, 2016 00:24

WeedlordGoku69: Feb 12, 2015; by Cyrano4747

Semper Fudge posted:

Devin Faraci's brand seems to be an even more insufferable Film Critic Hulk. At least FCH doesn't name search or frequently tell his detractors to go kill themselves.

FCH and Faraci are pretty much polar opposites, to be honest. FCH is a nice dude with good opinions who just writes in a kinda-grating style. Faraci, meanwhile, writes in an easy-to-read style but frequently has horrible opinions and is a crappy little bullshit man.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 01:33

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD: Sep 14, 2007; everything is yours

After listening to like ten episodes of The Canon, I now feel that Faraci is simply an idiot.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 01:43

Yaws: Oct 23, 2013

Yoshifan823 posted:

If the climactic fight of Civil War actually takes place on a loving airport tarmac and begins with the two sides running at each other like the X-Men animated show opening credits, I'm going to be non-stop laughing my rear end off in the theater until an usher asks me to leave.

It's so loving stupid. Why would they charge at each other like it's a medieval battle? What would Hawkeye gain from running straight at Iron Man?

# ? Apr 1, 2016 01:47

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE: Aug 1, 2004; whoa, what just happened here?; College Slice

There's also like, no loving way that's in act 1 like the rumors say, because everyone's already in their respective camps.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 01:51

Snowman_McK: Jan 31, 2010

Yaws posted:

What would Hawkeye gain from running straight at Iron Man?

Relevance?

# ? Apr 1, 2016 01:51

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE: Aug 1, 2004; whoa, what just happened here?; College Slice

Snowman_McK posted:

Relevance?

I'm more thinking the sweet release of ... from his contract.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 01:52

Snowman_McK: Jan 31, 2010

broken clock opsec posted:

I'm more thinking the sweet release of ... from his contract.

I get it, like a cry for help?

# ? Apr 1, 2016 01:54

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

broken clock opsec posted:

There's also like, no loving way that's in act 1 like the rumors say, because everyone's already in their respective camps.

It's entirely possible that's how the film starts and then we get a "THREE WEEKS EARLIER" blurb.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 01:59

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE: Aug 1, 2004; whoa, what just happened here?; College Slice

Rhyno posted:

It's entirely possible that's how the film starts and then we get a "THREE WEEKS EARLIER" blurb.

Introduce Spider-Man, flash backwards, then flash forwards. I like your thinking.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:06

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

broken clock opsec posted:

Introduce Spider-Man, flash backwards, then flash forwards. I like your thinking.

I can't wait for the stream of bitching that will ensue when Spider-man is in less than 10 minutes of the film.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:07

Snowman_McK: Jan 31, 2010

Rhyno posted:

I can't wait for the stream of bitching that will ensue when Spider-man is in less than 10 minutes of the film.

After all, we only have five full length movies of him

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:08

Accident Underwater: Oct 21, 2005; You look like a star!

broken clock opsec posted:

There's also like, no loving way that's in act 1 like the rumors say, because everyone's already in their respective camps.

Isn't everyone basically divided up at the end of AOU (aside from Spider-Man )?

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:09

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

Snowman_McK posted:

After all, we only have five full length movies of him

BUT HE MUST BE AVENGER I READ IT IN COMICS

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:11

Snowman_McK: Jan 31, 2010

Accident Underwater posted:

Isn't everyone basically divided up at the end of AOU (aside from Spider-Man )?

Well, we don't even fully know what the issue is and the guy who introduces it in the trailer wasn't in AOU. So no.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:11

Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

I think he means that everyone (except for a new team of Avengers) goes their own way at the end of AoU. Iron Man, Thor, Hulk and Hawkeye all take off.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:14

Luminous Obscurity: Jan 10, 2007; "The instrument you know as a piano was once called a pianoforte, because it can play both loud and quiet notes."

Snowman_McK posted:

After all, we only have five full length movies of him

yeah but not in the new CINEMATIC UNIVERSE

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:17

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE: Aug 1, 2004; whoa, what just happened here?; College Slice

The movie opens on Peter's parents' death--turns out they were killed by HYDRA, and the resolution of the movie hinges on Uncle Ben getting mugged and killed.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:18

Timeless Appeal: May 28, 2006

broken clock opsec posted:

The movie opens on Peter's parents' death--turns out they were killed by HYDRA, and the resolution of the movie hinges on Uncle Ben getting mugged and killed.

It's kinda funny that the Amazing Spider-Man Osborn/Peter's Parenters mystery intrigue stuff would have probably slid in nicely with the MCU but is probably all abandoned.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:22

Guy A. Person: May 23, 2003

Accident Underwater posted:

Isn't everyone basically divided up at the end of AOU (aside from Spider-Man )?

Everyone has gone off to do their own thing, but there's definitely no divided team with "sides" formed. Stark and Cap have a nice goodbye and Black Widow teases them about it.

Also Cap's Avengers at the end of that movie include Widow, Vision and War Machine and they are all on Tony's side.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:25

Hollismason: Jun 30, 2007; FEEL FREE TO DISREGARD THIS POST

It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.

People here hating on Spawn is ridiculous you know you loving loved that movie when you saw it in the theaters, don't be all " Oh I always thought it was poo poo".

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:26

The MSJ: May 17, 2010

New Mutants rumors are starting. Game of Throne's Maisie Williams and The VVitch's Anya Taylor-Joy are has supposedly been cast as Scottish lycanthrope Wolfsbane and Colossus' sister Magick respectively, along with Alexandra Shipp's Storm, Sunspot (played by Adam Canto in DOFP), Cannonball and Mirage.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 02:49

WeedlordGoku69: Feb 12, 2015; by Cyrano4747

Hollismason posted:

People here hating on Spawn is ridiculous you know you loving loved that movie when you saw it in the theaters, don't be all " Oh I always thought it was poo poo".

Actually, a great many people thought it was poo poo to begin with. It was not exactly a favorably received movie. Hell, it's only recently that I've seen anyone reevaluate it.

e: which is sad, because it's like one of my only childhood movies that doesn't have much of a following. People love Aliens, people love Highlander, people love Robocop, people even love Mortal Kombat, but drat near nobody loves Spawn.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 03:19

hiddenriverninja: May 10, 2013; life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

I loved Spawn, but the only thing I really remember from it is that homeless guy abusing his son because the kid wouldn't eat a ratty sandwich from the garbage.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 03:25

Chairman Capone: Dec 17, 2008

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

After listening to like ten episodes of The Canon, I now feel that Faraci is simply an idiot.

It makes me wonder what's wrong with Amy Nicholson that she not only subjects herself to doing it with him, but seems to actually like him.

# ? Apr 1, 2016 04:02

Neo Rasa: Mar 8, 2007; Everyone should play DUKE games.

LORD OF BUTT posted:

Actually, a great many people thought it was poo poo to begin with. It was not exactly a favorably received movie. Hell, it's only recently that I've seen anyone reevaluate it.

Roger Ebert posted:

Spawn (1997)

"Spawn'' is best seen as an experimental art film. It walks and talks like a big budget horror film, heavy on special effects and pitched at the teenage audience, and maybe that's how it will be received. But it's more impressive if you ignore the genre and just look at what's on the screen. What we have here are creators in several different areas doing their best to push the envelope. The subject is simply an excuse for their art--just as it always is with serious artists.

Still, we can begin with the story. A man named Al Simmons (Michael Jai White) is happily married and at peace with himself, when he's recruited on a mission to destroy a biological warfare factory in North Korea. The mission is a setup. He is horribly burned and disfigured, and made captive of the forces of darkness. They offer him a deal: Lead the army of evil, and he can see his wife again. He loves her, and he agrees.

That's what comic book writers call the "origination story,'' and "Spawn,'' of course, is based on a famous series of comic books by Todd McFarlane, who made "Spiderman'' the top-selling comic in history before jumping ship at Marvel to start his own company.

After the setup, five years pass before the evil ones make good on their promise. Simmons by now is Spawn, seen either grotesquely scarred or in an elaborate costume. He goes to his old home, sees his wife (Theresa Randle) now happily remarried and is mistaken as a homeless man by everyone except his faithful little dog, Spaz.

Most of the movie involves Spawn's efforts to break loose from his bargain with the devil, whose representative is Clown, a fat, wisecracking midget played with brilliant comic timing by John Leguizamo (who has little but his timing left to recognize after the special effects and makeup people have finished disguising him). Other key characters include Martin Sheen as Jason Wynn, a diabolical government agent who hopes to control the earth with biological blackmail, and Nicol Williamson as Cogliostro, Clown's enemy and a counterforce for good. Spawn has agreed to lead Armageddon for the powers of hell, but now finds himself trapped between good and evil.

And so on. I am sure there will be some who get involved at the plot level, but in comic books, and movies spawned by comic books, few things are ever really settled forever; the ending has to be left open for a sequel, and of course whole story lines can be negated (as happened at Marvel recently) just by explaining that impostors were at work. What matters is style, tone, and creative energy.

"Spawn'' is the work of some of the most inventive artists now working in the area of digital effects. Its first-time director, Mark Dippe, worked on the dinosaurs of "Jurassic Park" and the shape-shifting villain of "Terminator 2: Judgment Day." The visual effects coordinator is Steve "Spaz'' Williams, once a resident genius at Industrial Light and Magic. They've gathered an expert creative team, and what they put on the screen are vivid, bizarre, intense images--including visions of hell that are worthy of Hieronymous Bosch.

Spawn himself is an extraordinary superhero, with smoking green eyeballs and two looks--scarred skin, or a uniform that makes Batman look underdressed. Clown is a shape-shifter who can impersonate almost anyone else in the movie; Leguizamo's features are buried in fat makeup and then transplanted by animation onto a grotesque clown's body. There is a dragonlike thing, the beast of hell, that is all tooth and eyeball and disgusting coiling tongue (an "overgrown gekko,'' it's called). And there are vast vistas of the expanse of hell, with countless souls writhing on clouds of flame, tortured by the very anonymity of their suffering.

Against this, and preventing the film from being even better, is a pretty sappy plot. Yes, I said that the subject is just an excuse for the art, but audiences don't always see it that way, and some are likely to complain that "Spawn'' is basically just shallow set-ups for virtuoso special effects sequences. And so it is. Michael Jai White (who once played Mike Tyson on TV) makes a powerful Spawn with a presence both menacing and touching, and Clown is an inspired villain with one wicked one-liner after another ("You're Jimmy Stewart--and I'm Clarence''). But the Sheen and Williamson characters exist primarily just to nudge the plot along, and Theresa Randle's wife is underwritten; we want more about her feelings.

So the way to view the movie, I think, is to consider the story as the frame--necessary, but upstaged by what it contains, which in this case is some of the most impressive effects I've seen. The disciplines blend into one another: Animation, makeup, costuming, process shots, morphing. They create a place and a look as specific as the places evoked in such films as "Metropolis" and "Blade Runner". As a visual experience, "Spawn'' is unforgettable.

http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/spawn-1997

Also, note the paragraph about the inherent storytelling editorial limitations of mainstream superhero comics and how those can leak into their film adaptations. It could have been written this week.

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sub supau: Aug 28, 2007

Hollismason posted:

People here hating on Spawn is ridiculous you know you loving loved that movie when you saw it in the theaters, don't be all " Oh I always thought it was poo poo".

I was a huge Spawn fan in the early/mid 90s.

That movie has always been trash. Even when it was new.

I did like Leguizamo's Clown though. But I was an idiot 18 year old, so yeah.

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Rhyno: Mar 22, 2003; Can't post for 10 years!

It was only a matter of time before someone defended Spawn.

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# ? May 8, 2024 08:34

CelticPredator: Oct 11, 2013; 🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

I always liked the look of Spawn. Never read the comics, but for some reason I bought all those drat action figures. I think they're forever stuck in boxes.

These were neat though.

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