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The Tesla/Musk circle jerk is stupid but it's also funny that all the 'grizzled car guys' are judging a concept-car prototype of a vehicle that won't even be released for like 2 years and going 'I told you so!!!' Of course it looks like a prop, because that's what it is.
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The Bolt is a better car that you can buy sooner. All hail GM, True Innovators.
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Apr 1, 2016 11:54
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And it has air conditioning!
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Dislike button posted:The Tesla/Musk circle jerk is stupid but it's also funny that all the 'grizzled car guys' are judging a concept-car prototype of a vehicle that won't even be released for like 2 years and going 'I told you so!!!' Of course it looks like a prop, because that's what it is. About 1.5 years according to Tesla's own stuff. Which isn't a whole lot of time in the car world to go from your concept with a crooked logo on the steering wheel to a completely ready for production model with the newest iPad for your instrument cluster/HVAC/everything. Sagebrush posted:I like the front end, personally. I'm not a fan. "Well we don't need a grill for cooling, just uh, fill it in or something?"  Gonna get hot back there. Half the price of the car is probably in the completely glass roof. The $5000 rock chip repairs will be fun.
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Apr 1, 2016 14:42
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I wonder how easily they could hit a lower price point without gimmicky poo poo like that fishbowl roof. That roof will guarantee this car will never get over 130 miles in places like Texas simply because the ac has to be on max to feel less swamp assy in there.
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fknlo posted:About 1.5 years according to Tesla's own stuff. You're right probably more like 3 years
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Apr 1, 2016 15:00
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Looks way better than a Prius, I'd drive one.
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Apr 1, 2016 15:08
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Everything looks better than a Gen 4 Prius.
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Apr 1, 2016 15:13
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I put money down on 1, mostly in hopes that the federal credit is still around when I can order.  I think the all glass roof is going to be an option BTW. I'm mostly in it for the autopilot, which rules.
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They definitely need to do something about that front-end, just a decorative plastic insert would do the trick. Otherwise it's a pretty good looking car, from the outside at least. Musk's unpolished and awkward delivery in the keynote is kind of cute but the style of waiting for applause after every statement is quite annoying.  What kind of rear trunk is that thing supposed to have? With the stupid glass roof I assume it's not a proper liftback, so just a tiny hole behind the glass? mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Apr 1, 2016 |
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Apr 1, 2016 15:24
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mobby_6kl posted:What kind of rear trunk is that thing supposed to have? With the stupid glass roof I assume it's not a proper liftback, so just a tiny hole behind the glass? Unless they hinge the roof too, yeah. You can put wider things up front, maybe.
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Apr 1, 2016 15:33
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I don't get the whole "interior is sleek" thing. I feel like had it been a ford or chevy (or even BMWs which have a similar set up) it would be "Ugh, they don't know how to put a screen in!"
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Apr 1, 2016 15:44
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I think the front looks good. I think the rear looks good. I think the inside looks like garbage.
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Apr 1, 2016 15:54
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I think the front would look better with some black cladding Before  After a quick photoshop 
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Apr 1, 2016 16:02
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CornHolio posted:I think the front looks good. Samsies. I'm not apologizing for them, but if they can hit that $35k pricepoint they've obviously run out of money to do anything with the interior at all. It does look horrendous.
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awesome-express posted:I think the front would look better with some black cladding The real one looks better.
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Apr 1, 2016 16:10
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Something something opinions man something something I'd still buy it if I had a garage. 
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awesome-express posted:I think the front would look better with some black cladding It looks like a catfish making a puss face.
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BloodBag posted:I wonder how easily they could hit a lower price point without gimmicky poo poo like that fishbowl roof. That roof will guarantee this car will never get over 130 miles in places like Texas simply because the ac has to be on max to feel less swamp assy in there. Tint is a hell of a thing. I have some 3M stuff on my Volt that is like magic, in terms of heat rejection, and is still extremely light, optically. I live in South Florida, so I share your concern, but I've spoken to several model S owners about theirs, and they don't seem to have any problems down here.
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dreesemonkey posted:Samsies. The Devil Tesla posted:The real one looks better.
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Apr 1, 2016 16:26
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mobby_6kl posted:Well it's a quick photoshop, obviously, but I think it does a good enough job that something"should" be there. I'm sure there's a way to design a front-end without a huge grille, like an NB miata, but that's just not it.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Yeah, something needs to be there. It'll take about four seconds after the first production model rolls off the line before someone starts selling a decal for that space, and it'll sell like hotcakes. (Personally, I'd fill in that approximate area you delineated with Vantablack, since that would gently caress with people. But that interior has flipped me from "I might actually buy one of these because it's perfect for me" to "no loving way.") I'm just assuming that the shape of that front end is for crash rating and pedestrian impact standards? I find it really hard to believe they couldn't have done something better than "front bumper from a Mazda 3 without the grill cutout".
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Apr 1, 2016 16:57
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fknlo posted:I'm just assuming that the shape of that front end is for crash rating and pedestrian impact standards? I find it really hard to believe they couldn't have done something better than "front bumper from a Mazda 3 without the grill cutout". Yesterday I would have found it really hard to believe they couldn't have done something better than "bolt a flatscreen to the middle of the dash." So who knows.
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OH NO MY PRECIOUS INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE!
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fyodor posted:OH NO MY PRECIOUS INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE! It's true. Now that Scalia is gone the Supreme Court is going to uphold the secret Obama Adminstration executive action mandating that your car's drivetrain be ripped out and replaced with pure electric or a biodiesel hybrid, right after you are gay-married to someone of their choosing.
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I just think it's funny that there are people in this very forum who preordered the car before seeing the prototype specifically in the hope that they might save a few thousand on it two years down the line. I am not a financial advisor or anything, but if the difference between spending 37k or 34k or 30k on a car several years from now is going to break the bank, and you don't even know if the car will have the options you want at the price point you like (Musk has said that he thinks the average sale price of a model 3 + options will be 42k), maybe you shouldn't be buying these things sight unseen
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They're probably pre-ordering to sell to morons who JUST MUST HAVE IT RIGHT AWAY down the road, when it's actually in production but still backordered.
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I think it's stupid, but the cost of holding the option is negligible.
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Sagebrush posted:I just think it's funny that there are people in this very forum who preordered the car before seeing the prototype specifically in the hope that they might save a few thousand on it two years down the line. It will be hard to get one when they're making and selling the 400,000 units a year they need to hit to stay afloat so gotta give them $130,000,000.00 to keep it going.
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Methinks that cheap Teslas are the same as cheap Porsches: they only exist on paper.
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Yeah, it doesn't actually have a permanent financial impact or anything, which is good. It does say something pretty bizarre about people's financial attitudes, though.
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Well car guys do like to mod.MrYenko posted:Tint is a hell of a thing. I have some 3M stuff on my Volt that is like magic, in terms of heat rejection, and is still extremely light, optically. I live in South Florida, so I share your concern, but I've spoken to several model S owners about theirs, and they don't seem to have any problems down here. mobby_6kl posted:Well it's a quick photoshop, obviously, but I think it does a good enough job that something"should" be there. I'm sure there's a way to design a front-end without a huge grille, like an NB miata, but that's just not it. Sagebrush posted:I just think it's funny that there are people in this very forum who preordered the car before seeing the prototype specifically in the hope that they might save a few thousand on it two years down the line.
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This is the trunk opening, from Jalopnik: Not good, but not the end of the world.
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kimbo305 posted:This is the trunk opening, from Jalopnik: That looks worse than the much maligned trunk on the last gen Camaro. poo poo, that doesn't beat the trunk on my old '85 VW Cabby by much.
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fknlo posted:That looks worse than the much maligned trunk on the last gen Camaro. poo poo, that doesn't beat the trunk on my old '85 VW Cabby by much. It's not great, but it's not nearly as bad as a Camaro. The Camaro trunk opening is legit awful.
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PT6A posted:They're probably pre-ordering to sell to morons who JUST MUST HAVE IT RIGHT AWAY down the road, when it's actually in production but still backordered. kimbo305 posted:This is the trunk opening, from Jalopnik:
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fknlo posted:That looks worse than the much maligned trunk on the last gen Camaro. poo poo, that doesn't beat the trunk on my old '85 VW Cabby by much. Oh come on. The car isn't perfect but this isn't even trying to be objective. 
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fyodor posted:OH NO MY PRECIOUS INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE! sorry, but all the revolutionary technological advances in the world won't fix this car's looks or the fact that it's dangerous to drive because the controls and instruments are jammed into an ipad app
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