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I like the new proposal but San Diego is still filled with a bunch of angry old people who will vote for Trump this year so the likelihood of anything passing is around .001%.
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oldskool posted:League's not going to penalize them for backing out of the agreement thanks to getting a stadium deal done in San Diego, and if they don't get one done they ensure the Raiders can't move to LA. It's no longer "Give us what we want or maybe we'll move if the league accepts our application for relocation and things go a certain way with an ownership vote allowing the move & getting a stadium plan approved"; it's now "Give us what we want or we're gone" & sometimes that can swing a vote. I suppose the interesting part about all this is that the Chargers are still working within the framework of what will fly with voters and what won't in order to get a stadium deal done. They aren't trying to strongarm the city into something that they really, really don't want to do (raise general taxes for a stadium). They did that once already with the intent of showing they couldn't get a deal done and HAD to move to Carson. Now that Carson is off the table, their options are try to get a deal done here or go in with Kroenke in LA, and that's about it. Now that they're making a good-faith effort for a stadium in San Diego, they're showing their intention pretty plainly and they don't want to go to LA. They will if they can't seal the deal here, but they don't like it. Everyone knows that the Chargers would be the bottom-feeder in the pecking order of major sports team in LA below the Clippers, and the Spanos family can't ignore that fact. As a bottom-tier team, they aren't going to see a strong contingent of San Diego fans going up there or growing the fanbase in LA. It's not entirely a losing proposition because they'll still make money going to LA, but it's a dead-end with little to no room to grow. That leaves San Diego being the better option compared to going to LA: retain the fanbase, get a stadium that isn't Qualcomm, and don't have to worry about players jumping ship because of the move, if that ever turns into a thing. A few more years in Qualcomm isn't going to kill them.
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Why are sport stadiums the only buildings in America that can't be loving renovated? Who designs a piece of public infrastructure that is obsolete in 40 years?
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Have you been to Qualcomm? Its poo poo.
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wattershed posted:While I wouldn't blame the voters here one iota if they told the Spanos family to go have sex with themselves, the impact on the locals shouldn't be all that much. And it certainly appears to be of a smaller percentage than residents of other cities have recently had to pay for new stadiums in their cities. This post is full of amazing and poetic words I would never think to use in a conversation.
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Chinatown posted:Have you been to Qualcomm? Its poo poo.
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NC-17 posted:Why are sport stadiums the only buildings in America that can't be loving renovated? Who designs a piece of public infrastructure that is obsolete in 40 years? The incentives have changed such that stadiums want a bunch of VIP boxes since the League doesn't dip into those sales.
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I am really pleased that it appears the Chargers will stay in San Diego provided this passes. I haven't met one person who was excited about them leaving and coming to LA.
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NC-17 posted:Why are sport stadiums the only buildings in America that can't be loving renovated? Who designs a piece of public infrastructure that is obsolete in 40 years? It's mostly stadiums of a particular era. Places like qualcomm and the oakland coliseum were concrete monstrosities meant to be tailgated around. Maxwells Demon posted:The incentives have changed such that stadiums want a bunch of VIP boxes since the League doesn't dip into those sales. And this. If you look at the places that have been successfully renovated, the renovations were laregely about putting in more luxury boxes. For example:  or  If you're building from scratch you just say gently caress it and build half the stadium as luxury boxes 
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Ron Jeremy posted:If you're building from scratch you just say gently caress it and build half the stadium as luxury boxes Levis is such an ugly stadium.
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Seriously. Due to that entire side of luxury boxes, it will now just look perpetually half-finished.
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Maxwells Demon posted:The incentives have changed such that stadiums want a bunch of VIP boxes since the League doesn't dip into those sales. Why not? Could they change it to prevent more ugly poo poo like the frisco stadium?
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MrLogan posted:Levis is such an ugly stadium. ITS GOT A GARDEN ON THE ROOF THO GUYS. GUYS>??!!!!? Seriously though, its really not as much the asymmetry as it is the lack of any aesthetics for the rest of it. It looks like someone just slapped a bunch of lego pieces together. Its awful top to bottom.
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It is, however, very Charger-ish not to have any pretty pictures to accompany the proposal. "Think we should finish those promotional shots before we release the plan to get everyone excited?" "Nah."
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I liked the last renderings with dudes getting gnarly on skateboards and stuff. They should build a Flowbarrel machine in the stadium, IMHO.
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effectual posted:Why not? Could they change it to prevent more ugly poo poo like the frisco stadium? Please. That's the Santa Clara stadium, and it's emblematic of Santa Clara. It's the kind of stadium Santa Clara deserves.
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Chinatown posted:I liked the last renderings with dudes getting gnarly on skateboards and stuff. Not far off from that kayak-able moat and rock climbing wall Dan Snyder envisioned recently. The two things those Gen-Xers love the most, alternative sports and Redskins Fooball.
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Leperflesh posted:Please. That's the Santa Clara stadium, and it's emblematic of Santa Clara. It's the kind of stadium Santa Clara deserves. Absolutely. It's going to look dated as gently caress in 10 years and it's exactly what the Bay Area deserves.
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Levi's is antiseptic and corporate blandless as gently caress. I hate that dumb piece of poo poo. Also the turf is awful and people literally die of heat stroke and they won't invest in any sort of over hang for the side of the stadium opposite the glass tower. Also fun story about that glass tower: you can't even walk past it without a ticket for it or the seats below. There are literally ushers stopping you at the steps. I had to walk the outer edge of the stadium one game in 2014 because I was on one side of it and my buddy was on the other.
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Chargers are still gonna pursue PSLs for their portion of the stadium, which is a bummer, but I guess it's the new stupid reality
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Spoeank posted:Levi's is antiseptic and corporate blandless as gently caress. I hate that dumb piece of poo poo. That's some major bullshit. I hope the niners stay terrible and everyone stops going and York is forced to sell.
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Kirios posted:Absolutely. It's going to look dated as gently caress in 10 years and it's exactly what the Bay Area deserves. This is "the San Francisco stadium"  It's very nice. The niners should have stayed in SF. Maybe just rebuilt at Candlestick Point, or maybe done a deal instead of fleeing to lovely soulless Santa Clara. I don't know about "what the Bay Area deserves" though. It's certainly the results we should expect given the conditions we've created.
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AT&T is the most beautiful stadium or arena in all of American sports and I will fight you if you say otherwise (PNC is actually really nice and is also an acceptable answer).
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Spoeank posted:AT&T is the most beautiful stadium or arena in all of American sports and I will fight you if you say otherwise PNC is so drat beautiful. Makes me always pick Pitt in the show
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Spoeank posted:AT&T is the most beautiful stadium or arena in all of American sports and I will fight you if you say otherwise Petco is cool and good and it's a shame it's always empty
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I hate corporate branding because I don't know where any of those stadiums are. They could be in any city.
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effectual posted:I hate corporate branding because I don't know where any of those stadiums are. They could be in any city. My favorite is when you get multiples because of mergers. American Airlines center in Dallas American Airlines arena in Miami
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Spoeank posted:AT&T is the most beautiful stadium or arena in all of American sports and I will fight you if you say otherwise Camden Yards also for all the poo poo it gets the Jerry Dome is really stylish
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Febreeze posted:Camden Yards Camden is indeed amazing. I love Safeco too, though I wish you could see the sunset better from there.
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effectual posted:I hate corporate branding because I don't know where any of those stadiums are. They could be in any city. I'm pretty sure that the Pittsburgh National Corporation Park is going to be in Pittsburgh. Its nice that Heinz, PNC, and Consol are all Pittsburgh-based companies instead of some vague thing like FedEx Field being in DC.
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Sash! posted:I'm pretty sure that the Pittsburgh National Corporation Park is going to be in Pittsburgh. Why would anyone outside of Pittsburgh know what PNC is? Would you assume PG&E is Pittsburgh Gas and Electric?
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Ross Angeles posted:Petco is cool and good and it's a shame it's always empty I went and got drunk at the motocross thing and it was awesome since all the food/beer stalls were open. it was also completely packed lol. Petco Park is legit as hell too if you just wanna not watch the game and get really lovely.
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Fenway Park is really pretty. And awesome too, unless you want to sit down, or stand up, or go to the bathroom, or get food, or face the infield.
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https://twitter.com/LasVegasSands/status/716030889629605888 taking him to sam boyd is not a good idea lol
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Apr 2, 2016 07:40
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Aesthetically, I gotta say Rose Bowl. Or Lucas Oil.
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Lessail posted:https://twitter.com/LasVegasSands/status/716030889629605888 Mark's head is small.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Aesthetically, I gotta say Rose Bowl. Or Lucas Oil. lucas oil looks like a big lovely barn
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Lucas Oil at least looks pretty different, which counts for something. There isn't a single current NFL stadium (besides maybe the Los Angeles Coliseum I guess) that is especially aesthetically satisfying.
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