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I don't do sex, so I don't really know what the ins and outs are. But I would say that if a woman takes a man into her bed or couch and starts making out with him, it's up to her to tell him when to stop. If he has to ask permission all the time to do anything at all (as I was taught by the feminist harpies that ran the sex-ed classes in the early 80s when I was in high school) it would take all the spontaneity and enjoyment out of it. To enforce constant consent-seeking like that comes across to me as positively Orwellian. So it's up to the woman to either spell out before starting what her limits are, or to tell him to stop if he goes too far. And then to give him a reasonable time to stop; I've read of court cases where a boy was sent to prison on a rape charge because he took 5 seconds to pull out after the girl asked him to stop. She should actively push against him and tell him, repeatedly, to stop. I would posit that if she tells him to stop more than 3 times and he doesn't, only then she might have a case. I've also heard that bringing a man close to orgasm and then forcing him to stop with a charge of backed-up semen causes a lot of pain. If a man causing pain to a woman is regarded as a crime, then so should a woman causing pain to a man. Bringing a man to that stage and then forcing him to stop seconds short of blowing his load is rape against the man in my book. edit: MRA-snipe
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starkebn posted:It would be great if they could send this to the group making medical marijuana products You can't just grab a random strain of cannabis and start producing medical products, the same way you wouldn't grab a random strain of opioid to produce morphine. They could I guess, but you really want those sort of things to be tightly controlled. Different strains of cannabis throw up a variety of concoctions.
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MaliciousOnion posted:I don't do sex, so I don't really know what the ins and outs are. But I would say that if a woman takes a man into her bed or couch and starts making out with him, it's up to her to tell him when to stop. If he has to ask permission all the time to do anything at all (as I was taught by the feminist harpies that ran the sex-ed classes in the early 80s when I was in high school) it would take all the spontaneity and enjoyment out of it. To enforce constant consent-seeking like that comes across to me as positively Orwellian. This guy is as well educated about sex as Libertarians are about literally everything. EDIT: 
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I like how the put a smiling girl who appears to actually holding a work envelope or folder, so you know at least attempting to look like their working, vs a dude who is obviously doing nothing and looks either bored out of their mind or possibly like they might just be about to bash someone. It's like if one of those scam weightless pill internet adds got the the before and after the wrong way around. I actually do sort of agree their still some weird gender stuff around dress codes that doesn't make to much sense to me, but the only time I've ever heard feminists discuss dress codes is when their agreeing, that yes they are a bit hosed up and would be good if they went away. Like seriously has there been any well known feminist arguments for gendered dress codes in workplaces. I know thinking to deeply about anti-feminist arguments is usually a bit of waste of time, but it sort of amazing how much stupidity they can fit into one little image.
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 One is carrying a folder, the other has a reference for City Beach on his resume.
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OR A REALLY THIN PURSE WITH IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS
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starkebn posted:what do you think of the not touching this with a ten foot pole.
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LibertyCat posted:not touching this with a ten foot pole. Gutless as well as stupid.
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Starshark posted:Gutless as well as stupid. I hope you choke on a turd.
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dr_rat posted:Like seriously has there been any well known feminist arguments for gendered dress codes in workplaces. They're just trying to present some double standard when (a) women don't get away with sleeveless tops in corporate anyway and (b) they ignore who imposed these standards to begin with. Most of the MRA nonsense only exists to fight feminism, there's no interest in actually furthering any male issues.
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LibertyCat posted:I hope you choke on a turd. Wishing harm upon others now, are we?
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Anidav posted:
You mean that's not standard attire in Australia?
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MaliciousOnion posted:Found an article on Aboriginal agriculture, for those who are interested: http://researchonline.jcu.edu.au/27882/1/ellwood_etal_2009.pdf Cheers
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MaliciousOnion posted:I don't do sex, You probably should. It's not a bad thing all in all.
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MiniSune posted:You probably should. It's not a bad thing all in all. You could end up with another Australian...
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LibertyCat posted:not touching this with a ten foot pole. If you're not willing to debate and discuss your opinion, why are you posting in debate and discussion?  I mean either you're pro feminism, in which case ok, or you're against it, in which case ok. The only reason you'd answer the way you did is that you're anti-feminism, and know that such an answer wouldn't be popular and would result in people asking you questions, which you aren't willing to answer because you don't believe in your stance that strongly.
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quote:http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...afb0994944a0ca2  This is cargo cult level thinking.
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Because that guy's shirt really fits a traditionalist conception of masculinity. If anything that's a pro-feminist picture. The woman would get to stay in the office because she is meeting society's expectations of her. Literally the only way this could criticise feminism is by saying it hasn't gone far enough. 
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It's not a flattering outfit at all for his body shape. It makes his torso and arms look really really long, I hope he didn't choose it for himself.
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The bloke will never be hired because the sheila will work harder for less money
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Because that guy's shirt really fits a traditionalist conception of masculinity. If anything that's a pro-feminist picture. The woman would get to stay in the office because she is meeting society's expectations of her. Literally the only way this could criticise feminism is by saying it hasn't gone far enough. A lot of anti-feminists willfully misunderstand feminism; yes, in a lot of cases it is about promoting equality through improving the status of women, but for a lot of feminists it is also about dismantling the traditional gender roles which oppress pmuch everyone in society, man, woman, or otherwise. anti-feminists will see an area in which many men are disadvantaged due to traditional gender roles (e.g. child custody) and think that feminists either don't care and are promoting an unfair double standard, or are actively to blame for the disadvantage. Dude really needs to iron his shirt though.
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QLD Labor just approved the Adani coal mine in the Galilee basin. One, two, three, gently caress the ALP.
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SeekOtherCandidate posted:QLD Labor just approved the Adani coal mine in the Galilee basin. E: uh, okay, just checked Facebook again and yeah, they've done it 
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-03/mning-leases-approved-carmichael-mine-qld-galilee-basin-adani/7295188quote:Mining leases have been approved for the $21.7 billion Carmichael coal mine and rail project in the state's Galilee Basin by the Queensland Government. verses http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-03/great-barrier-reef-aust-will-miss-targets-researcher-said/7286466 quote:Australia looks likely to miss water quality targets set out to keep the Great Barrier Reef on UNESCO's World Heritage list, a senior researcher at the Federal Government's own marine science agency has warned.
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tithin posted:If you're not willing to debate and discuss your opinion, why are you posting in debate and discussion? I was going to ignore the issue because it's not something I particularly care about, but my name was mentioned. Since I could say the sky is blue and get dogpiled over it I didn't want to get drawn into a debate over a minor issue. If you really care I'm all for equal opportunity but am against quotas. It seems like some feminists see a lot of men at the Top, but they don't look down and see a lot of men at the Bottom. If "Feminism" is a catch-all term for removing toxic gender roles for both sexes, it should change its name, but this is hardly an Australian-specific political issue.
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loving wow!quote:There are no asylum seeker children locked up in Australian immigration centres for the first time in almost a decade wait a tick, that doesn't sound right? quote:The government has reclassified sections of detention centres as “community detention” in order to be able to claim that all children have been released from immigration detention.   http://www.theguardian.com/australi...sed?CMP=soc_567
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LibertyCat posted:I was going to ignore the issue because it's not something I particularly care about, but my name was mentioned. Since I could say the sky is blue and get dogpiled over it I didn't want to get drawn into a debate over a minor issue.  You deserve all the 'dogpiling' you get
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This is the current thinking with a lot of bullshit tech startups. Provide a functional service and gather all the data, then work out how to effectively make money with it later. In actuality, they waste money providing an unprofitable service with the hopes a larger company will buy them out and use it for something profitable. This is a good strategy for government because... agile disruption.
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SeekOtherCandidate posted:QLD Labor just approved the Adani coal mine in the Galilee basin. loving wow.
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Anna P no! You were the chosen one! *watches Daniel Andrews approve killing children for hunting* ALP Noooooooooooooooo Not Agaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin.
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SeekOtherCandidate posted:QLD Labor just approved the Adani coal mine in the Galilee basin. Well the QLD Govt should definitely fund the Safe Schools program now. Seeing as we are hatefucking the environment now
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LibertyCat posted:I was going to ignore the issue because it's not something I particularly care about, but my name was mentioned. Since I could say the sky is blue and get dogpiled over it I didn't want to get drawn into a debate over a minor issue. lol okay LibertyCat posted:If you really care I'm all for equal opportunity but am against quotas. How can we quantify if we are achieving equality if we aren't somehow measuring gender representation? LibertyCat posted:It seems like some feminists see a lot of men at the Top, but they don't look down and see a lot of men at the Bottom. If "Feminism" is a catch-all term for removing toxic gender roles for both sexes, it should change its name, but this is hardly an Australian-specific political issue. And yet a whole bunch of MRA's (e.g. you) wilfully ignore the fact that by screaming about  But what about men??? you are actually marginalising disadvantaged groups by shifting the focus away from them and onto yourself.
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